Toiler's Constant

Kurt Godel · 11-01-2013 11:23pm

Fri pm 2,500m swim

My new pull bouy arrived, so I had to try it out. It's very useful for seeing what is wrong with the stroke, I think I'll get great use from it.

500m easy
4x250 free, pull, kick, free
10x25 hard, 25 easy
500m easy

The 25's were smashing, I was on top of the water, moving fast, motoring along with my stroke. Streamlined, and going at a good clip. This is what I need to swim like for longer stuff. I think the pull bouy helped me see what was wrong, and correcting some of this transferred into the 25's.

Kurt Godel · 12-01-2013 7:38pm

Sat 2 hrs turbo

Losing my sanity by the end of it, but its done, the most efficient use of two hours without leaving the house.

Kurt Godel · 13-01-2013 3:34pm

Dory Dory · 13-01-2013 5:35pm

I am so jazzed you got a pull buoy! Mine is my very best friend in the pool.

BeepBeep67 · 13-01-2013 6:46pm

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Sun

13k steady run.

A good cold, wet day, the sort you're wary of starting, but delighted once you have started. The pace was nice and steady.

Overall another decent base week. Missed Thursday through illness, but that passed quick enough.

Weekly Summary|Session|Comment

Monday|Rest|
Tuesday|3.5k swim, 7k run|incl 20x100 swim. Felt drained running.
Wednesday|1.5k swim, 1:28 turbo|swim 400m TT in 6:35.
Thursday|Nothing, wrecked|
Friday|20k hill run EZ, 2.5k swim|Annagh hill trails. Drill swim.
Saturday|2hrs turbo|
Sunday|13km steady run|Forest, wet,cold, felt good.

Weekly km|Swim 7.5k Bike 95k Run 40k|Missed a couple of sessions with a bug. Happy with the latter runs.
2012 km|Swim 17.3 Bike 200 Run 78.5

Nice training of late.

psst - it's 2013

Kurt Godel · 13-01-2013 7:04pm

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Nice training of late.

psst - it's 2013

I meant to fix that date last week, will misremember to do so again next;)

On the training; my stash of good French wine is no more, so I gave up booze just after Xmas. It's amazing the extra energy I have just from that abstinence. Weight is moving rapidly in the right direction too.

BeepBeep67 · 13-01-2013 7:10pm

Kurt Godel wrote: »

I meant to fix that date last week, will misremember to do so again next;)

On the training; my stash of good French wine is no more, so I gave up booze just after Xmas. It's amazing the extra energy I have just from that abstinence. Weight is moving rapidly in the right direction too.

Nice, I'm restricting myself to a wind down beer on a Friday and a reward beer on a Sunday, a nice Hurricane Jack awaits this evening.

Kurt Godel · 13-01-2013 7:16pm

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Nice, I'm restricting myself to a wind down beer on a Friday and a reward beer on a Sunday, a nice Hurricane Jack awaits this evening.

Enjoy! The abstinence is more to keep a clear head for a hectic exam period in June, but its having a positive knock-on effect for my sport hobby. However, I look forward to finding out what a Hurricane Jack is in a few months:D

Kurt Godel · 14-01-2013 3:38pm

Mon 3,250 swim

1,000m warm up

Main set
4X100m off 1:55 (in 1:42, 1:44, 1:43, 1:41), 50m easy
4x100m off 1:50 (1:38, 1:39, 1:41, 1:39), 50 easy
4x100m off 1:45 (1:39, 1:44, 1:46, 1:41)
250m easy
10x25m sprint, 25 easy.
warm down

I have been told the good sense that reps are more useful if done off descending times, and so it seems. The first 4 were at a steady pace with good form, the next good form but felt harder, the last steady but struggling to hold the form. Having said all that, times are getting better, as is my stroke. The set of 25m sprints once again showed that speed equals better form and glide, much less drag. This is the sort of form that needs to feed into the longer stuff.

joey100 · 14-01-2013 4:21pm

You have been doing some very consistent training over the last while Kurt, seems to be really paying off too. Them swim times are getting better and better. Fair play. What sort of sets are you doing on the turbo? Couldn't see it anywhere but might have missed it.

Kurt Godel · 14-01-2013 4:30pm

joey100 wrote: »

You have been doing some very consistent training over the last while Kurt, seems to be really paying off too. Them swim times are getting better and better. Fair play. What sort of sets are you doing on the turbo? Couldn't see it anywhere but might have missed it.

Cheers joey100, hopefully the training will feed into a better position in this years Bunclody tri;)
The turbo is just volume at the moment, no sets. I don't have any metrics from them, I'm calling 65min steady as 30k. I'll bring in sufferfest sessions in a week or so, but for now its all about just putting down a volume base. Ditto with the running. More structure will be introduced from Feb, with a goal of the Valentia Sprint in May.

joey100 · 14-01-2013 5:16pm

Sounds like a nice plan there. Not sure if Bunclody will be on my calender this year but might do it if I can draft you for the swim;). Them sufferfest vids seem to be very good, I find that the structure on the turbo is great, make it a lot more bearable.

Kurt Godel · 15-01-2013 2:23pm

Tue 2,500m swim

Two wisdom teeth left home today, and with a possible week or more off training, I wondered which sport I'd miss the most. Hence another swim, as it's recovery-dependent when I'm next in the pool. (The dentist said I can start biking tomorrow, running the next day, and swimming after that, if recovery goes well).

1,000m warm-up steady 18:50
500m pull bouy
10x25m sprint, 25m easy
500m pull bouy

Pull bouy is worth its weight in gold. Once I have a bit of coaching on a correct stroke, it will be very useful. The sprints once again showed what proper form is. With a bit of speed, my bow wave produces a lower breathing trough, so the head needn't rise so high.

Kurt Godel · 16-01-2013 4:20pm

Wed 1:50 easy turbo

Painkillers are making the jaw manageable, but I don't want to get my blood pressure up too high just yet. An easy spin on the turbo took care of business.

Oryx · 16-01-2013 6:42pm

Ouch.

Fair play doing the turbo. Hope it had a painkilling effect.

Kurt Godel · 16-01-2013 7:27pm

Oryx wrote: »

Ouch.

Fair play doing the turbo. Hope it had a painkilling effect.

The turbo is great to distract from pain- I'm getting through loads of maths videos, and didn't even notice my jawbone (which is aching now). So officially the turbo pain is worse than getting your teeth pulled:)

Date for anyone interested, I just noticed the date for the Beginish Swim off Valentia Island in Kerry is up on the Valentia Tri Club website. This is a goal race for me, I know that loads of proper swimmers will enter so I'll not be competitive, but I know the area well and have a huge grá for these waters.

*** DATE FOR 2013 *** DATE AND TIME FOR BEGINISH ISLAND SWIM 2013 is SATURDAY 20th JULY – START TIME 13:50 (High Tide 15:20).

Kurt Godel · 17-01-2013 3:49pm

Thurs 4,000m steady swim 1:19:40

My jaw has ballooned up like Desperate Dan's, so I figured the best place for my ugly mug was hidden deep underwater. Seven weeks ago, when I started back in the pool, I did 3k just under the hour, and was beat in doing so. Today, the same pace was like an easy jog, could have kept going all day like this.

<aside> every time I exhaled on my sore side, the bubbles would run along the cheek causing a fair amount of hurt.

griffin100 · 17-01-2013 9:17pm

Jesus, I wish I was back at the stage of doing 3,000m swims. I've only swam 10x100 repeats in the last month (1000m). Can't see myself ever getting back to full swim fitness, think I've lost my mojo. Need to give myself a kick up the arse.

Oryx · 17-01-2013 11:52pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Jesus, I wish I was back at the stage of doing 3,000m swims. I've only swam 10x100 repeats in the last month (1000m). Can't see myself ever getting back to full swim fitness, think I've lost my mojo. Need to give myself a kick up the arse.

Theres a lot of that about these days.

KG hope you've not got an infection there....

griffin100 · 18-01-2013 12:13am

Oryx wrote: »

Theres a lot of that about these days.

KG hope you've not got an infection there....

I think after three years of fitting IM and marathon training into work and family life I've had enough. A year of sprint tris and short run distances beckons me thinks!!

Kurt Godel · 19-01-2013 8:01pm

Sat 60 min turbo

I did nothing yesterday, felt chilly and run down all day, like I had an icepack on all my nervous system. Bound to be up and down on antibiotics, I guess.

Today I did Sufferfest revolver45, which the main set is 15xmin flat out, min easy. It was tough (they all are), but a great little session. My calf was twinging during it, I'll have to keep an eye on that.

RacoonQueen · 20-01-2013 11:04am

That swim sounds awesome. Shame I'm still too slow for it that would take me over 2.5 hours now.

Must keep an eye on those OW swims.

Kurt Godel · 20-01-2013 9:20pm

Kurt Godel · 21-01-2013 3:34pm

Mon 3,800m swim

I knew something was amiss today, my initial warm-up felt much tougher than it should have done. Antibiotics can mess with your system, and thats what seemed to be the case today, I had no energy or form. The intention was to do 20x100m, but I knocked that on the head after the initial set of 4 off 1:55- I was going backwards. Decided to just get an endurance swim in- I don't usually bail on sessions if they feel hard, but there's a time and a place for that, and my times were so far down that I chose to fight that battle another day.

1,000 warmup @1:59/100m pace
4x100m off 1:55 in on 1:45, 1:49, 1:54, 1:54
1,000m @ 2:05/100m pace
1,400m @ 2:13/100m pace

Oryx · 22-01-2013 6:32pm

[offtopic]Help a girl out here, Mr Maths.

Complete the sequence, and tell me how. Driving me mad since 8am.

3, 5, 13, 49, 241 ?

[/offtopic]

Dory Dory · 22-01-2013 7:02pm

Oryx wrote: »

[offtopic]Help a girl out here, Mr Maths.

Complete the sequence, and tell me how. Driving me mad since 8am.

3, 5, 13, 49, 241 ?

[/offtopic]

1441

Oryx · 22-01-2013 7:46pm

Dory Dory wrote: »

1441

I even know that but still cant see how it's done.

Feel very stupid now.

Kurt Godel · 22-01-2013 8:06pm

Dory Dory wrote: »

1441

Top marks to Dory! Bet she did it differently to me though (and I bet her way is far simpler and more elegant;))

Method:

5/3 = 1 remainder 2
13/5 = 2 r 3
49/13 = 3 r 10
241/49 = 4 r 45
x/241 = 5 r 236
x=1441

For the next term, take 6 from 1441 (6 being the term number of the sequence and that will give your remainder. So y/(1441) = 6 r (1441-6).

There's probably a far more elegant explanation, but all I've been doing for a while is modulo arithmatic, so I probably can't see the wood for the trees:)

Oryx · 22-01-2013 8:20pm

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Top marks to Dory! Bet she did it differently to me though (and I bet her way is far simpler and more elegant;))

Method:
5/3 = 1 remainder 2
13/5 = 2 r 3
49/13 = 3 r 10
241/49 = 4 r 45
x/241 = 5 r 236
x=1441

For the next term, take 6 from 1441 (6 being the term number of the sequence and that will give your remainder. So y/(1441) = 6 r (1441-6).

There's probably a far more elegant explanation, but all I've been doing for a while is modulo arithmatic, so I probably can't see the wood for the trees:)

Got it add one to the 5 two to 13 three to the 49 and so on and they are divisible by the number before by an increase of one each time.

I need to study more. My brain is rusty. And is there anything Dory cannot do?

Back to training talk. Sorry for interrupting!

Dory Dory · 22-01-2013 8:50pm

Yeah, I did it a little differently than you. I employed multiplication then subtraction. Sorry to butt in, but I'm a CPA by trade and always love a good math problem.

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