Pregnant women smoking and drinking

Tayla

Abi wrote: »

Don't smoke or drink.

Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

dark crystal

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

I quit when I was pregnant, but luckily I found it easy simply because even a sniff of an ashtray or cigarette made me want to wretch!

Trying to give up smoking is not as easy for many as it was for you. If it was, everyone would do it. It's a notoriously hard drug to kick.

billybudd

Tayla wrote: »

Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

You forgot breathe

Battered Mars Bar

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

Exactly. "smoking is addicitive and the hardest thing to give up"...utter rubbish.

foxyboxer

I'm 'avin a faaaaaaaaaaag!!!

Rabidlamb

When my wife had our first child I had to push her out to the smoking area in a wheelchair as the epidural hadn't worn off, bet we looked classy but you don't argue with a women who has just given birth to your child.
She gave them up about 2 years ago & hasn't looked back since.
3rd kid now on the way.

LorraineMcFly

lazygal wrote: »

Bull. No maternity hospital will tell you to abstain 100%, all will advise on the best course of action.

I asked my consultant about this. I'm not a smoker but do drink. I've been too sick to drink at all but she has told me a small glass of wine once a week has no effect. I'm eight months pregnant so I guess that beats your five.

I was advised no alcohol is best. but if you do one small glass of wine should be ok. however why wud you even bother having a small glass of wine ? For what purpose? It does cross the placenta you know. so even if its a small amount ur babies getting it.
and i wasant aware we were in competition , your 8 months good for you

hondasam

Smoking is an addiction it's impossible to give up just because you get pregnant. One or two cigs a day is not that bad.

A glass of wine or guinness has always been considered by Obstetricians as perfectly safe, and to a point, good for you. Getting drunk is very different though.

As for smoking, I think it's disgusting and vile that anyone would do this during pregnancy, but I don't think we should have a law against it.

WoollyRedHat

Two weeks ago at the bus stop, I saw a mother and the father smoking in the area where their baby was, in a pram. The kid also had an earring, which is ****ed up. Then she pretty much smoked straight into the baby's face when she knelt into the pram, smoke in mouth, breathing her smoke into baby's face.

Imagine anyone doing that, how ignorant, and how bad a mother would you have to be.

Zulu

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Imagine if the mammies of Einstein / Da Vinci / Aristotle had known about this information. Their children wouldn't have been such a letdown.

You do realise that logic fails at a very basic scrutiny, right?

For one:
Aristotle's mum was pregnant prior to Europe discovering America. the Europeans were introduced to tobacco smoking by the native Americans.

And besides:
For every "success" story you selectively choose (however incorrectly) throughout history, you are neglecting the hundreds and thousands of children that have survived to suffer because of it, and those miscarriages that didn't.

kfallon

Abi wrote: »

Don't smoke or drink.

Tayla wrote: »

Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

Ladies in the family way, just have a little bet instead. No harm to your health and the adrenalin rush of a winner might be good for junior :pac:

lazygal

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

I was advised no alcohol is best. but if you do one small glass of wine should be ok. however why wud you even bother having a small glass of wine ? For what purpose? It does cross the placenta you know. so even if its a small amount ur babies getting it.
and i wasant aware we were in competition , your 8 months good for you

Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.

SunnyDub1

Abi wrote: »

Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.

fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.

hondasam

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Two weeks ago at the bus stop, I saw a mother and the father smoking in the area where their baby was, in a pram. The kid also had an earring, which is ****ed up. Then she pretty much smoked straight into the baby's face when she knelt into the pram, smoke in mouth, breathing her smoke into baby's face.

Imagine anyone doing that, how ignorant, and how bad a mother would you have to be.

You have decided she is a bad mother, she is probably a great mother.

Abi

Tayla wrote: »

Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

Well the thread itself is about drinking and smoking. To be more precise, intoxicating your baby through drink or inhalation if cigarette smoke, whether they like it or not.

Enough studies have been done on this, so we know it effects the unborn child. An argument against this is a sign of weakness in my book.

Zulu

hondasam wrote: »

Smoking is an addiction it's impossible to give up just because you get pregnant.

Rubbish, people give up all the time. I gave up, and I didn't have the excellent motivation of being pregnant.

billybudd

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.

Plus walking baby in prams in the vicinity of things that produce toxic fumes like cars should be banned also, plus living near airports etc.

we need more greenhouses.

LorraineMcFly

lazygal wrote: »

Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.

and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

sReq | uTeK

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

I don't agree with smoking while pregnant, but at the end of the day - it's there body so there choice

Doesn't seem that way with prostitution

hondasam

Zulu wrote: »

Rubbish, people give up all the time. I gave up, and I didn't have the excellent motivation of being pregnant.

Just because you did you think everyone can?

hondasam

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

Nasty.

Tayla

Abi wrote: »

Well the thread itself is about drinking and smoking. To be more precise, intoxicating your baby through drink or inhalation if cigarette smoke, whether they like it or not.

Enough studies have been done on this, so we know it effects the unborn child. An argument against this is a sign of weakness in my book.

I'm not arguing against it, I added another danger to an unborn baby to the list. an overweight mother with bad food habits, there are countless studies done on the dangers of that as well but it's largely ignored because people are in denial.

It can cause just as many health problems if you are overweight than if you smoke.

SunnyDub1

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

Everyone is not like you

billybudd

On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.

hondasam

chin_grin wrote: »

To be fair if the pregnant woman is smoking, the child is f*cked from the get-go.

That is rubbish.

WoollyRedHat

hondasam wrote: »

You have decided she is a bad mother, she is probably a great mother.

Who smokes into her baby's face and gets its ear pierced... yeah she's probably wonderful all right, proper way to do it alright!

billybudd

billybudd wrote: »

On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.

Do you work upstairs in the Rotunda?

Abi

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

Abi wrote: »

Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.

fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.

Again, this thread isn't about other issues around pregnancy, it's about drinking and smoking. While it might be an addiction, a woman who smokes should make a conscience decision to quit before her pregnancy. Deciding to do both is selfish and harmful to the child.

Ellis Dee

A law like that would be almost as unenforceable as one prohibiting masturbation.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Zulu

hondasam wrote: »

Just because you did you think everyone can?

Absolutely. I'm nothing special. If I can do it, you can.

billybudd

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you work upstairs in the Rotunda?

I am just quite tall

KeithM89_old

lazygal wrote: »

Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

Mod
Tone it down a bit.

LorraineMcFly

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

Everyone is not like you

yes but come on if your pregnant and smoking your in the wrong? you must see how disgusting and vile it is to smoke while pregnant. we ban it in workplace and public places and yet we subject unborn babies to it...

hondasam

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

You wanted to give them up and it's great but not everyone is the same.
Majority of pregnant women have a sly cig everyday and go back on them the minute the baby is born.

Tayla

billybudd wrote: »

On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.

Would you look down on an expectant mother who was obese if you saw her stuffing her face at the chipper?

LorraineMcFly

KeithM89 wrote: »

Mod
Tone it down a bit.

agreed , she insulted me first. i apologise for stooping to her level. she isint in her right mind anyway shes 8 months gone, hormones.

Seachmall

Abi wrote:

Again, this thread isn't about other issues around pregnancy, it's about drinking and smoking. While it might be an addiction, a woman who smokes should make a conscience decision to quit before her pregnancy. Deciding to do both is selfish and harmful to the child.

But in order for the law to be consistent it would also have to enforce healthy eating for pregnant women (which I'm sure there are plenty of studies on).

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

she isint in her right mind anyway shes 8 months gone, hormones.

Nothing like a cheap shot to get the last word in.

That's what my mom always said anyway.

Logical Fallacy

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

As its now illegal to smoke indoors in a public place should we also make it illegal for pregnant mothers to smoke and drink alcohol.?
Going on all the studies suggesting it seriously harms the unborn child.

Great idea. Human history has proven that when you make something illegal then people will stop doing it.

Warning : Post may contain hints of sarcasm. Do not read if pregnant or lactating.

LorraineMcFly

hondasam wrote: »

You wanted to give them up and it's great but not everyone is the same.
Majority of pregnant women have a sly cig everyday and go back on them the minute the baby is born.

they do not! none of my friends do this. where do you get that info?

Zulu

hondasam wrote: »

Majority of pregnant women have a sly cig everyday and go back on them the minute the baby is born.

Have you any grounds for that comment or is it pure conjecture & speculation?

lazygal

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

Wow.


I hope your children aren't taught to respond to people with such comments.


Being a good mother isn't just about not smoking and drinking.

KeithM89_old

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

.... she isint in her right mind anyway shes 8 months gone, hormones.

Last chance

billybudd

Abi wrote: »

Again, this thread isn't about other issues around pregnancy, it's about drinking and smoking. While it might be an addiction, a woman who smokes should make a conscience decision to quit before her pregnancy. Deciding to do both is selfish and harmful to the child.

Not every child is affected by a mother who smoked during pregnancy. but they should give up for the term anyway to be sure to be safe.

hondasam

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Who smokes into her baby's face and gets its ear pierced... yeah she's probably wonderful all right, proper way to do it alright!

Who are you to judge her?

Zulu wrote: »

Absolutely. I'm nothing special. If I can do it, you can.

It's not that easy.

billybudd

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

they do not! none of my friends do this. where do you get that info?

Haha, you are friends with all the pregnant women in Ireland?:D

LorraineMcFly

Its only 9 months of your life, yes some people find quitting hard. But thousands dont, i really think some mothers dont even try to quit. they just say , oh its too hard and dont bother. its disgusting to subject an unborn child to smoke

Zulu

hondasam wrote: »

It's not that easy.

I didn't say it was, but it's not that hard either; it can be done, it's nothing special.

HemlockOption

FatherLen wrote: »

i am so glad i am a male.

Especially when you realise that if pregnant - your life's worth is equal to that of a couple of dividing cells.

Zulu

HemlockOption wrote: »

Especially when you realise that if pregnant - your life's worth is equal to that of a couple of dividing cells.

...like the way your life is currently equal to that of a couple of billion decaying cells?