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Dublin Marathon 2012 - Mentored Novices Thread
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Don't worry about it. For my first year running, most of my training was done at this sort of pace, and quite a lot of my LSRs for my first marathon were done at a pace barely quicker than an 11 minute mile (20 miles at that pace is a LOT of time on your feet!). The mileage and consistent training will make you a lot faster, by the time my first marathon rolled around I'd already broken 2 hours for a half and ended up running 4:24 for the marathon.Pageant Messiah wrote: »Another plodder here !
My pace is a lot slower than most beginners it seems from reading through the forum.
My "comfortable" pace is 10.5 - 10.8 minute miles / 6.5 - 6.75 minute kilometres. Anything faster than that isn't sustainable for too long.0 -
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Anyway, I was planning on racing little once the mileage goes up but last Saturday and your post got me thinking. Is it feasible racing often while tackling mileage you're unused to? I'd love to do it. Love short races and i'm convinced they do wonders for me but alarm bells are going off in my head thinking about running fast on fatigued legs.
Corny, for me i hope to do some of the Raheny summer league which i think started tonight i think but physio tortured me today (on my way back from injury) so couldn't go. So if the legs ain't got it to run, i don't do them.
However the BHAA races and any 5ks nearby are worth it in my opinion. As said earlier, i would do one every 3 or 4 weeks so you'ld be talking 5 races under 5 miles between now and the marathon. Midweeks races this time of year are great as you can get in the races on a Wednesday and do the lsr at the weekend so you have recovery time between the two sessions.
I did Bohermeen the other night and will do the 5 miler there in September so thats one of the 5 and i've a couple more races noted as possibles. Not doing the race series at present just for a change so that will free up more weekends for me for the short race/lsr week.
But everyone's different and you have to listen to your legs on what you should do at various times. This will come to you all in time.
As a story for those in panic mode - My first 5k took 29 minutes, my second took 20 minutes and there was 4 months between them races so while you may think that you're going nowhere fast, you are but you just don't know it. Come Christmas you'll be all doing times in races that you never thought possible once you get a block of training behind you.
Remember Rome wasn't built in a day, it was over a long bank holiday weekend:D0 -
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It's not simply your stride, it's that your muscles are getting stronger from the longer miles allowing you to 'stride out', you'll find yourself running the shorter distances a lot faster than you'd imagine over the next few months.
Interesting reading everyone's experiences with LSR paces, strides, etc.. In terms of stride, I tried something different last night. I went for a pace run which last week I did faster that ever at 8.59 min mile pace over 4.6 miles. Last night I went for the same run but tried using a shorter stride but increased the pace. I was amazed to make it round in a 8.41 min mile! I've never been able to run that pace before...is it a result of the change in stride or just the LSRs paying off? Whichever it is, I feel fantastic - like my fitness has taken a leap forward 0 -
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My Garmin died yesterday
That little virtual pacer dude was my best running partner. He'd join me any time of the day or night, on foot or by bike, no matter what the weather, and do a pace to suit my goals. But yesterday he just wouldn't wake up. No amount of fiddling with the charger made any difference; after 2.5 years, he needs a rest.
Was fairly lost without him this morning! Looks like the battery has packed it in at last. I knew it was going wonky, but hoped it would last a few more weeks (or months!) Actually I expected it would last longer than this, but maybe I've been using it more heavily than the average user? (This would SHOCK me! :P)
Anyway, if anyone has a recommendation of where's the best value place to get a new Garmin Forerunner 405 (or similar, I really like the virtual pacer function), I'd appreciate it. My HRM, wall charger & ANT agent USB are all ok, just need to replace the watch. Bought it originally from the Irish Fit store, don't think I'll be out that way any time soon though. Maybe Great Outdoors in Dublin city centre?Shortie_chik is gearing up for N2 also so took at bit of inspiration from her weekly log, thanks!
MiguelK, there were definitely 2 other folks who were looking at the HHN2 plan too (although who that was completely escapes me now
) Glad there will be a few others on the same plan as me! Although I confess I didn't run yesterday (y'know, after my Garmin packed it in on me, and I got distracted with finishing some lovely flatpack furniture...) Did yesterday's run today though, so I've only lost 3 miles. :mad:All this talk of speed work is making me nervous! I just plod on at my same pace, for 4 miles or 10... I'm consistently slow!!! I feel I'm way off the pace here, gulp! Am I on my own?
I'm another of these slow plodders. I just show up & keep going & eventually I finish It's enough of a work out for me to just get out there, without bursting my heart to get around in record time! :eek:
I've just taken a look back over some of my first recorded runs (Jan 2010) and I was doing about 11:30 - 12:15 min miles. When I started back into a programme again this Spring, I was doing (not at all embarrassing) 11-12 min miles - massive progress! :P
A few weeks ago I decided to see if I could manage to push myself a little harder and can manage 10 min miles for a short run now (maybe up to 5 miles, that's the most I've tried) but my LSRs are still 11:30 min/miles and I fully expect to be following the 5 hours pacer in October! I'll decide in September once I see how my training gets me though the Half.
I went to the DSD talk on Tuesday night & it was really good. (Anyone else there? I'm the one with the nose-ring & sparkly glasses!) Very informative & motivational. I'll definitely be keeping with a pacer, and although I'm looking forward to the atmosphere & the buzz of running with similar-paced folks, the advice was definitely to keep your energy for running on the day, don't waste it on chit-chat! So this is good to know what to expect! Good advice on pacing, how to avoid injury & build strength, & setting realistic goals.
Was also really good to hear from a first time runner, Annette (Keogh I think?) How she fit the training into her life, a bit about how she managed nutrition (this was really helpful!) She said she usually eats healthily, and if something doesn't give her energy, she just has to carry it around on her run with her. It's a good healthy life mantra! :cool: She just seemed really relaxed about it all, didn't tell too many people (no extra pressure, I'm doing the exact same!)
Linda Byrne (London Olympian!) was there talking about her training. She seems so focused, really excited to see how she gets on in London. Also was funny, she was really nervous about speaking infront of the group. She's an Olympian for god's sake! She's what we all aspire to (well... :rolleyes:), no need to be nervous infront of a group of beginners!
Well if they do something similar again, I'd recommend it! Especially for newbies like me who find the magnitude of what I've signed up for a little scary!0 -
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tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »... what happened next tho :P
The story continues after a brief interlude, brace yourself for the meteoric rise of our hero as he puts the demons to rest and the smartasses back in their box.
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