Dublin Marathon 2012 - Mentored Novices Thread

tang1 · 20-06-2012 1:13pm

Trampas · 20-06-2012 1:14pm

going to run the 5 miler this weekend but will be adding on a few extra miles with it

elvis jones · 20-06-2012 1:18pm

Eh what your thread got to do with Triathlons/Duathlons or Adventure racing.....................wrong forum me thinks.

And to answer your question you have to do that 8k another 4 times and a 2k more. You'd need to be starting a 16 week programme now or should even have it started.

Ask to have a mod move this the running area:)

RayCun · 20-06-2012 1:21pm

elvis jones wrote: »

Ask to have a mod move this the running area:)

too slow, Elvis, too slow

folan · 20-06-2012 1:34pm

smithslist wrote: »

Hello all,

Last night I completed an 8km race and finished it within 40mins. This is my first race in preparation of the Dublin marathon this year.

I did this race as a benchmark to see how I was fitness wise and how to estimate my target time for the Dublin Marathon.

Base on this is there a website link or any advice on my training and target time for the Dublin marathon. Originally I was going for a sub 4hr marathon but based on my race last night I was thinking of adjusting this target...

Thank you in advance.

have a look at the hal higdon pages (links at the start of this thread), and younganne and other mods here can help with more details. they've given some great advice so far.

welcome to the madness

sheba 121 · 20-06-2012 1:35pm

First post....long time lurker. I have signed up for the DCM and hope to meet some training friends as well as support group on here. I have a good running base of one year. Running 4 times a week 3 x 5k and 1 x 10k at weekend. Ive completed a few 10k races and best time is 57m. So I like to think im slow but steady;). I also do spinning and kettle bells once a week as well as a long walk on my cross-training day. Healthy weight and diet. Age 42. Im starting the novice training plan on the 25th and hope to join in for some weekend long runs and gain some advice and support from members here.......Best of luck to all in training and hope I can be of help as well.......

NoelJ · 20-06-2012 1:51pm

sheba 121 · 20-06-2012 1:55pm

Im not at the 20 miles yet but close to it. I have done 20 miles plus a week earlier in the year.......I just had too many things on over the last 4 weeks to up the miles. Mostly walking events. Coast is all clear now for the training.....bring it on:)

rasher_m · 20-06-2012 2:21pm

NoelJ wrote: »

So is everyone running nearly 20 miles a week already?

As long as you and I can start with 3x3x3x6 on the first week of Hal's plan next week and keep going from there then you've no bother and that goes for me as well!:rolleyes:

elPadrino · 20-06-2012 3:08pm

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
yournamehere| runs| miles | total so far | comments

sheba 121 · 20-06-2012 3:31pm

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
Sheba 121| 2| 12k| 86k| 6k run tonight.....could be warm out there.

real_irishken · 20-06-2012 3:43pm

Just coming back from a long lay off with knee injury. Started doing 5km now and starting my first 4th day continuous run. Knee is holding up fine and would love to come back. Relative newbie, I did the race series for the first time last year. My stats:

10km Pheonix Park 42.42

5 m race series 36.14

10 m race series 72.12

Half marathon race series 1:49.12

Dublin marathon 4:36.22

shortie_chik · 20-06-2012 4:53pm

NoelJ wrote: »

So is everyone running nearly 20 miles a week already?

I'm not at 20 miles a week yet. My last 7 weeks have been:

16.6m, 3m (only 1 run as I was sick!), 15m, 16m, 16m, 15m, 16.5m (missed 1 run). :eek:

elvis jones · 20-06-2012 6:07pm

RayCun wrote: »

too slow, Elvis, too slow

I did my best but alas it wasn't good enough;)

career_move · 20-06-2012 9:23pm

RayCun · 20-06-2012 9:27pm

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
Sheba 121| 2| 12k| 86k| 6k run tonight.....could be warm out there.
career_move| 2| 12| 226 miles since I started in April| Running the marathon in aid of the Oespphageal Cancer Fund. Mum started her treatment yesterday

quote this message, edit your line on the table, remove the quote tags from around the table, and make sure you're quoting the latest version of the table

Runchick · 20-06-2012 9:45pm

Just back from the Lisburn 10km...absolutely buzzing after getting a PB of 53 mins - did a 10km a month ago in 55 so well chuffed tonight! Can't begin to imagine how great it's gonna feel finishing 26.2 miles!!

sheba 121 · 20-06-2012 10:00pm

6k done tonight..........a difficult hill but thankfully I kept on running:). Really looking forward to the training now.

Dilbert75 · 20-06-2012 10:22pm

Need to get back into this running lark - did 11k on Sunday morning in an hour dead. Hopefully will get out again tomorrow night, then Saturday or Sunday morning, ready for the big HHN2 start on Tuesday!

pansophelia · 21-06-2012 12:05am

Hmmm might need a bit of help adding an extra line to the table . . .please!

miguelk · 21-06-2012 8:03am

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
Sheba 121| 2| 12k| 86k| 6k run tonight.....could be warm out there.
career_move| 2| 12| 226 miles since I started in April| Running the marathon in aid of the Oespphageal Cancer Fund. Mum started her treatment yesterday
pansophelia| | | |insert comment here
Name| | | |insert comment here

zooming · 21-06-2012 8:32am

Remember the Fr Ted episode where Dick Byrne got all his scrabble tiles to read STUPID PRIEST CANT SAY MASS, well my scrabble tiles would read STUPID FATTY CANT RUN LEAD LEGS.
Im feeling a bit run down this week, going to take some berocca and not run till Sunday, supplement wise I take fish oils and a vitamin C every day, so maybe I need a boost? The only thing extra I had been taking was a glucosamine and chondroitin tablet as well as the oils and vit c but ran out this week, but thay are to help joints, I dont think this has any bearing on energy levels? Well Im away on holidays in a fortnight so maybe that will help!
Feeling a bit sad about crap running

miguelk · 21-06-2012 9:00am

smithslist wrote: »

Hello all,

Last night I completed an 8km race and finished it within 40mins. This is my first race in preparation of the Dublin marathon this year.

I did this race as a benchmark to see how I was fitness wise and how to estimate my target time for the Dublin Marathon.

Base on this is there a website link or any advice on my training and target time for the Dublin marathon. Originally I was going for a sub 4hr marathon but based on my race last night I was thinking of adjusting this target...

Thank you in advance.

The macmillan calculator is probably what you're looking for but using an 8km race result you couldn't count on the marathon time from it. If you're using the race series then as the race distance increases you'll know better as you get through the plan, I wouldn't be overly concerned with the planned finishing time at this stage in the training.

I'm sure the more experience posters can advise. I'll be aiming for a sub 40 in the 5 mile next week so I'm in a similar position.

In what direction were you thinking of adjusting the 4hr target??....

RayCun · 21-06-2012 9:19am

Just FYI, my first marathon was 3.58, and my times that year were

January 5 mile - 46 minutes
March 5k - 25 minutes
April 10k - 54
May 5 mile - 40 (39.59

)
July 5 mile - 38.30 (course was short, that's an adjusted time)
August 10 mile - 81
September 1/2 marathon - 1.48
September 5k - 22.40 (the day after an LSR)

If you're running the Dublin half marathon that's the best predictor of your marathon time, because it's the closest distance and the training you've done will apply to both races.

ncmc · 21-06-2012 9:27am

zooming wrote: »

Remember the Fr Ted episode where Dick Byrne got all his scrabble tiles to read STUPID PRIEST CANT SAY MASS, well my scrabble tiles would read STUPID FATTY CANT RUN LEAD LEGS.
Im feeling a bit run down this week, going to take some berocca and not run till Sunday, supplement wise I take fish oils and a vitamin C every day, so maybe I need a boost? The only thing extra I had been taking was a glucosamine and chondroitin tablet as well as the oils and vit c but ran out this week, but thay are to help joints, I dont think this has any bearing on energy levels? Well Im away on holidays in a fortnight so maybe that will help!
Feeling a bit sad about crap running

I think we’ve all been there Zooming, there are some days when it just feels like such an effort to put one foot in front of the other. I don’t really have any advice other than to let you know you’re not the only one! I always go into ‘burn out’ mode just before my hols, where I feel like one more week in work would actually kill me! Maybe that’s contributing to your tiredness.

I remember you saying earlier in the week that you ran in the morning, have you considered maybe trying the evening instead? I find it seriously difficult to run in the morning as I won’t have eaten much so I feel like I’m running on empty. Or maybe you could try changing your route, or is there someone you could run with? Sometimes I think changing it up a bit can help.

I bet you’ll feel better once you’ve been on your hols. And in the meantime, don’t feel bad about missing a run or being a bit sluggish.

zooming · 21-06-2012 10:30am

ncmc wrote: »

I think we’ve all been there Zooming, there are some days when it just feels like such an effort to put one foot in front of the other. I don’t really have any advice other than to let you know you’re not the only one! I always go into ‘burn out’ mode just before my hols, where I feel like one more week in work would actually kill me! Maybe that’s contributing to your tiredness.

I remember you saying earlier in the week that you ran in the morning, have you considered maybe trying the evening instead? I find it seriously difficult to run in the morning as I won’t have eaten much so I feel like I’m running on empty. Or maybe you could try changing your route, or is there someone you could run with? Sometimes I think changing it up a bit can help.

I bet you’ll feel better once you’ve been on your hols. And in the meantime, don’t feel bad about missing a run or being a bit sluggish.

Thanks!!!
I get up at 4.30am during the week to allow me to get coffee and a banana before by run at 5.30am, so I do tend to get a bit tired somedays, I work late during the week also! By the time evening comes Im wrecked!

ncmc · 21-06-2012 10:49am

zooming wrote: »

Thanks!!!
I get up at 4.30am during the week to allow me to get coffee and a banana before by run at 5.30am, so I do tend to get a bit tired somedays, I work late during the week also! By the time evening comes Im wrecked!

Oh my God! No wonder you’re tired!!! I’d be mega sluggish too if I was running on just a banana. Could you try eating a small bowl of porridge or a couple of slices of toast or something a little more filling? Serious respect to you for getting up so early to jog, that is real dedication.

RayCun · 21-06-2012 10:50am

How long is your run? Couldn't you just eat afterwards? Better than getting up an extra hour early...

Mulberry · 21-06-2012 11:27am

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
Sheba 121| 2| 12k| 86k| 6k run tonight.....could be warm out there.
career_move| 2| 12| 226 miles since I started in April| Running the marathon in aid of the Oespphageal Cancer Fund. Mum started her treatment yesterday
pansophelia| | | |insert comment here
Mulberry|4 |21M |Hhmmm, since when? |Am trying to increase from 4 runs a week to 5 but normal life just keeps getting in the way! Frustrating.

jprender · 21-06-2012 11:35am

tang1|4| 24.6miles | 427.22miles | happy with my training, getting some decent miles into my legs.
NoelJ| 2| 9.14km | 89.47km| An easy week to get used to 3 runs and one long one
elPadrino| 2| 13km | 589.06km|Looking forward to the challenge
Sheba 121| 2| 12k| 86k| 6k run tonight.....could be warm out there.
career_move| 2| 12| 226 miles since I started in April| Running the marathon in aid of the Oespphageal Cancer Fund. Mum started her treatment yesterday
pansophelia| | | |insert comment here
Mulberry|4 |21M |Hhmmm, since when? |Am trying to increase from 4 runs a week to 5 but normal life just keeps getting in the way! Frustrating.
jprender| |||Starting next Tuesday

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