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Dublin Marathon 2012 - Mentored Novices Thread
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Thanks PM, fair play to you for doing that. We'll all by you a drink on the 29th Oct for fixing our F*ck ups!!
Jeez that could be expensive and PM will have some hangover the next day
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PM appreciate the hard work you've put into this. May be worth pm'ing ROM as Ray suggested to see if he has any ideas on how to lock down cells etc. I know they were having some problems with the 1000 mile challenge doc too but all seems fine lately.0 -
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Thanks PM, fair play to you for doing that. We'll all by you a drink on the 29th Oct for fixing our F*ck ups!!
Im more than happy to buy you a drink on the 29th for helping us all with the recording for our runs. I hope its not too much of a pain. I think option 1 also is the best at the moment........cheers again 0 -
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Another option would be to go back to the tables but we open a seperate thread for the tables and continue with this thread for the info, advice, general chit chat and motivation.
I'm sure that it would be no problem to do the seperate thread for the tables but Raycun or Ecoli as mods would have to confirm and set it as a sticky at the top of the training logs section!!
...the spread sheet is gone so big its hard to read it at a glance where the table has all the info in one glance!!
But thats only my opinion/suggestion...I'm sure PM has much better things to be doing that monitoring the spreadsheet!!!
To be honest I don't mind doing it. Am online most of the day work wise so it's not a big chore for me to squeeze in. What I do like about the sheet is it allows for all sorts of analysis - at a glance you can see how much mileage you are putting in, have been putting in, how that compares with the plan and the other users. The table is grand but when you are scrolling through one with 67 entries it won't be that much of an easy glance IMO
I'll happily go with whatever the community here want though.0 -
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Well one thing I did learn from the midweek run is that my PMP is not 8 min/mile (since I can't even do that for 5km :mad::o)...:D
Give it time and you'll be flying again:Djinxremoving wrote: »I found it easier than i thought i would, slowing back down for the last mile felt good though
Good stuff, overall & aerobic fitness is improving the more you train so this is proving that its all falling into place....Stick with the spreadsheet is my vote.
Well if PM has no issue with having to do it, then we'll stick with it for now so until he says its too much:)0 -
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I think you should have the deciding vote PM as you do most of the work. I'm happy to go with whichever you think best and thanks again:)Pageant Messiah wrote: »Ok sheet restored to before the mess up (which took place approx 6 hours ago) If you entered any new data during that time it will be gone. Sorry about that but I can only roll it back to certain points and not selectively.
The biggest issue here is the lack of any ability in googledocs to lock down / protect indvidual cells and rows which means anyone can come in and act the proverbial with the sheet (or an innocent mistake is made) You can only lock the entire sheet.
So options are:
1) Continue as is - I can roll back things as they happen.
2) Lock the sheet and invite / approve everyone as a collaborator (would require everyone to register a google account / log in etc to edit)
3) Abandon the sheet and go back to tables.
4) Have everyone pm me their runs and I update the sheet myself = lots of work for PM
5) Wait for google to implement individual protection (been waiting 3 years for it so far !)
Personally I'm very much with option 1 for the moment. It's not that difficult to roll it back - and the quicker someone spots the issue the less edits I need to scroll back through to see where it went wrong. Option 2 will not sit well with everyone from a privacy point of view, Option 3 means a heavily cluttered thread with tables, Option 4 would be a personal nightmare and Option 5 is time sensitive.0 -
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Fair play to you PM for your efforts in keeping the spreadsheet in order. It only takes one person to decide to play with things and mess it up for everyone, i'm sure it was someone playing silly games who probably isn't even contributing to this thread or the spread sheet, it's a shame that some people get their jollies that way.
Never put down to malice what stupidity can explain
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Back in the groove hopefully, 7.5 miles this evening. Arch in left foot still giving out a bit, getting fitted for new runners tomorrow in Base2Race so hopefully they can sort the issue out.
2 sub 20 5k's in a week and you are only getting back in the groove now?? How fast will you be when you back training properly? 0 -
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These are extracts from my own log with some relevant additions at the end for the marathon thread. (so sorry to anyone who already read it skip to the last paragraph)
Wednesday 11th
Approx 6k in 36 minutes.
A nice run today - Endomondo went a bit haywire and told me I had done my second kilometre in 4 min (turned out it lost GPS at one stage and had placed me a good distance from where I was - then when it found me again calculated as if I had ran there and back) It was on unfamilar territory around the blanchardstown centre area so I wasn't sure how far or at what pace I was running until I double checked the maps etc later. Knee held up well. Slightly sore towards the end but nothing too bad.
Thursday 12th - Just when you thought running was doing the same thing day in day out.
6.2km in 38 min 44 seconds. I had a great run today. I love running in new places (not neccessarily never been there before but never having ran there before) I parked up in Westpoint in Blanchardstown and decided I would take a jog towards Castleknock and do some sort of loop back to Blanchardstown. I didn't have a set run in mind. Again that can keep things interesting. I got as far as the railway bridge over Castleknock and saw a wide path leading along the canal and a spur of the moment right turn was taken with the idea I would run along the canal for a while and then head back to Blanch centre.
The nice wide paved path gave way though to a mucky yet rough trail which got progressively narrower and narrower to the point that it was at times hard to see the path. Either side of the path was outgrowing bushes and leaves and I really had to concentrate to keep my pace steady, adjust the footsteps to land on smooth ground, kick down jagged branches etc. I ended up running the guts of a full kilometre through the undergrowth without really noticing that I had ran so far. My heart was thumping, adrenaline was flowing and I came out the far side at coolmine feeling like I had just broken a world record. Such a great buzz - and I am going to investigate some cross country running at some stage.
Friday 13th
8.88km in 55:31
Another unplanned run this one. I was scheduled to run 5k on my training plan but work got in the way this morning. I was under some time pressure this evening too but I did have my running gear in the car. Decided to run home instead of drive. Didn't overly push myself but still ended up with a horrific stitch which had me close to tears at one point. Walked some of it off and got my ass in gear again but the stitch was still painful.
I turned the final corner to my house and found my 6 year old waiting for me at the end of the street. This felt like coming home to a heroes welcome. She runs up to me and challenges me to a race back to the house. For the first time ever I didn't have to fake the loss - I couldn't keep up with her I was that sore from the stitch
The great thing though was how quickly my body recovered from the run. Within 40 seconds of finishing the stitch was gone, I wasn't in any way shape or form out of breath and my heart was beating as normal. That to me is a sign of an increasing fitness level and stitches aside I was delighted with the run home.
Summary
Not a bad week all things considered. I messed up a bit on Thursday - this should have been my midweek pace run but I got carried up in the moment and didn't run the prescribed 2 miles at marathon pace. Friday was higher mileage than the plan warranted and I ran it a bit too fast if I look at it honestly and paid for it with the mother of all stitches ! Marathon pace though is still something that is not really defined for me as I suspect is the same for most of us here.
The thing is I know I am running a bit slower than I am capable of but that said I'm not sure I would be capable of sustaining a higher pace for a full marathon. If anything the release of stored energy on the day will be pushing me to finish as opposed to pushing me to finish at a higher speed. So for the moment I'm not too concerned with getting the pacing exactly right. My speeds at the moment which are relatively comfortable look like this:
Short runs - top racing speed 5:30 per km not sustainable for too long
LSR - 6:40 - 7:00 per km
Midweek Runs - 6:00 - 6:10 per km.
Marathon Pace - Could be anything from 5:50 - 7:00 and won't know for a few months yet.
What I do know though as alluded to earlier is that things are getting more comfortable, pace is slowly naturally increasing and recovery times are also dramatically decreasing.0
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