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Dublin Marathon 2012 - Mentored Novices Thread
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A very tentative 4km covered with mixed news. The part of my foot that had me laid up behaved itself other than a slight twinge at one point for about 10 metres max. However there was lots of sharp pain (not too major) elsewhere which leaves me a few questions for the more experienced amongst us: (If this doesn't contravene the no medical advice rules)
Although it is very dangerous to self diagnose on the internet
it does appear that I am suffering from shin splints at the front of both legs. I have already been to Amphibian King and am running in runners they fitted after gait analysis. Is it possible for gait to change / could it have been assessed wrongly (highly unlikely to be fair!) at the time or can shin splints occur even with correctly fitted runners? In this case what can I do to avoid / strengthen the area as needed ?
Again with the self diagnosis it appears I have a dose of achilles tendonitis but this has been present since before taking up running. In general the backs of my heels (not at ground level) can be very sore first thing in the morning to the point I can't walk down a stairs properly but this pain goes once I'm up and moving. Occasionally I feel it when starting to run too. My understanding is that this is caused by among other things tight calf muscles which I'm fairly certain I have - they are always the first things to start aching when running.
Now I've never stretched before or after a run
- I'm inclined to think this is a bad idea (especially given the tightness and issues above) but am unsure what I should be doing. Is there a typical stretch plan / schedule someone could point me towards that would help me out. I'm dreading falling apart in the run up to the marathon. 0 -
Pageant Messiah wrote: »A very tentative 4km covered with mixed news. The part of my foot that had me laid up behaved itself other than a slight twinge at one point for about 10 metres max. However there was lots of sharp pain (not too major) elsewhere which leaves me a few questions for the more experienced amongst us: (If this doesn't contravene the no medical advice rules)
Although it is very dangerous to self diagnose on the internet it does appear that I am suffering from shin splints at the front of both legs. I have already been to Amphibian King and am running in runners they fitted after gait analysis. Is it possible for gait to change / could it have been assessed wrongly (highly unlikely to be fair!) at the time or can shin splints occur even with correctly fitted runners? In this case what can I do to avoid / strengthen the area as needed ?
Again with the self diagnosis it appears I have a dose of achilles tendonitis but this has been present since before taking up running. In general the backs of my heels (not at ground level) can be very sore first thing in the morning to the point I can't walk down a stairs properly but this pain goes once I'm up and moving. Occasionally I feel it when starting to run too. My understanding is that this is caused by among other things tight calf muscles which I'm fairly certain I have - they are always the first things to start aching when running.
Now I've never stretched before or after a run - I'm inclined to think this is a bad idea (especially given the tightness and issues above) but am unsure what I should be doing. Is there a typical stretch plan / schedule someone could point me towards that would help me out. I'm dreading falling apart in the run up to the marathon.
Since you got your new runners are you landing further forward on your foot?
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Weekly update time.
Wowzer posted here that he was out due to injury. Really sorry to hear that mate.
YoungAnne our fearless leader has been taken out of the sheet at her request as she is logging her runs in the improvers thread (where we all will be next year with a bit of luck!) We've lost a few more this week who seem to have left without saying goodbye. They have been moved to the inactive members section as explained last week. This means we currently have 60 active loggers.
During the week gone we smashed through 10,000 miles collectively logged since the start of the plan (and I predict we will be over 11,000 miles by the time everyone has logged this week)0 -
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I think the best thing PM would be to see a physio. He/She would be able to tell you the best stretches to be doing etc. The longer you leave the niggles the more troublesome they are going to get. I'm off to the physio myself tomorrow morn. I had a quick chat with him on thurs and now my concern is that he will think I'm a mentally unstable hypochondriac as I now have a whole new set of problems 0
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How rudePageant Messiah wrote: »Weekly update time.
Wowzer posted here that he was out due to injury. Really sorry to hear that mate. YoungAnne our fearless leader has been taken out of the sheet at her request as she is logging her runs in the improvers thread (where we all will be next year with a bit of luck!) We've lost a few more this week who seem to have left without saying goodbye. They have been moved to the inactive members section as explained last week. This means we currently have 60 active loggers.
During the week gone we smashed through 10,000 miles collectively logged since the start of the plan (and I predict we will be over 11,000 miles by the time everyone has logged this week)
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career_move wrote: »I think the best thing PM would be to see a physio. He/She would be able to tell you the best stretches to be doing etc. The longer you leave the niggles the more troublesome they are going to get. I'm off to the physio myself tomorrow morn. I had a quick chat with him on thurs and now my concern is that he will think I'm a mentally unstable hypochondriac as I now have a whole new set of problems
+1 on seeing a physio PM, the more experienced runners that keep an eye on us would say the same i'd say. Get your niggles sorted before they become serious ones.0 -
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Pageant Messiah wrote: »A very tentative 4km covered with mixed news. The part of my foot that had me laid up behaved itself other than a slight twinge at one point for about 10 metres max. However there was lots of sharp pain (not too major) elsewhere which leaves me a few questions for the more experienced amongst us: (If this doesn't contravene the no medical advice rules)
Although it is very dangerous to self diagnose on the internet it does appear that I am suffering from shin splints at the front of both legs. I have already been to Amphibian King and am running in runners they fitted after gait analysis. Is it possible for gait to change / could it have been assessed wrongly (highly unlikely to be fair!) at the time or can shin splints occur even with correctly fitted runners? In this case what can I do to avoid / strengthen the area as needed ?
Again with the self diagnosis it appears I have a dose of achilles tendonitis but this has been present since before taking up running. In general the backs of my heels (not at ground level) can be very sore first thing in the morning to the point I can't walk down a stairs properly but this pain goes once I'm up and moving. Occasionally I feel it when starting to run too. My understanding is that this is caused by among other things tight calf muscles which I'm fairly certain I have - they are always the first things to start aching when running.
Now I've never stretched before or after a run - I'm inclined to think this is a bad idea (especially given the tightness and issues above) but am unsure what I should be doing. Is there a typical stretch plan / schedule someone could point me towards that would help me out. I'm dreading falling apart in the run up to the marathon.
Hi PM,I'm not giving medical advice but just to ket you know that i have what feels like shin splints and i've being running for a few years now so headed to the physio and its the calf muscles thats are pulling on the shin bone so im getting treatment for that. You should definitely get to the physio and get a full MOT!!! Physio will also show you the best exercises to treat your problem areas.0 -
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To follow on from Anne's post above, here's my first marathon report - DCM 2010. Maybe some of the other contributors could post up theirs?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68699444
Thanks for that Mr Slow. It was good to see how your first marathon went. I read your own log from start to finish.
I have one regret though. This post ....Nope, I'm still on sub 4, to quote someone wiser than I "Oprah did it in 4:30"
FFS is all I can say to that. FFS (Coming from someone who will struggle to hit 4:30 and was thinking about setting a 5 hour target) 0 -
FiiFii, I would be inclined to either take gel + water or Lucozade, not both together. That's a bit too much carbs in one shot - could turn your stomach.
Yeah hadn't thought of that... Will try again then with the water and hopefully be a 'pleasanter' experience Tx for advise & Younganne aswell 0 -
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And the award for the strangest sentence in the entire thread goes to.....career_move wrote: »then a bloody horse stood on my big toe and ripped all the skin off under the nail
Lucky for the horse I can still run :D:D Seriously though, that sounds painful! Hope you're ok.
That's crap Tang, sorry to hear that, but you are a strong runner and you've loads of good quality miles done, so I'm sure the two weeks won't affect you're fitness, in fact, the rest might even do the legs some good.Plantar faciitis it is, at least two weeks of no running. Could be worse, at least i haven't been told DCM is a no go. niteowl1 he told me to manipulate the area with a tennis ball in a socked foot 4-5 times a day and do heel drops, leg on a step and lower the foot down below level of step till you feel stretch on plantar, hold for 5 secs and bring foot back up. Made sure to say do it with both feet.
So, I had my first even ½ marathon yesterday in Clonmel. Great race, nicely organised, small field of 400-500 so didn’t feel crowded. I was a bit nervous as my husband was working so I was on my own, and I couldn’t find the place so felt a bit frazzled! The weather was warm and muggy, not ideal running weather. The first two miles were tough, a steady incline, one of those ‘not really a hill’ hills that you don’t notice in a car but you sure as hell notice when running! My plan was to try and keep the 1hr45 pacers in sight, but I soon realised that wasn’t going to happen so I just plugged on at my own pace. Enjoyed miles 3-7 when we got off the main road and on to the back roads. Plenty of water stations, but not much local support unfortunately, I suppose the match being on affected that. Took gels at 6 and 10 miles. Started to find the going tough at about 9.5 miles, legs felt heavy, was feeling like I was in a cold sweat. A guy came up beside me and said, “I’ve been behind you from the beginning, you don’t want to let me beat you now!” Turns out that guy was our very own Dilbert75! Total random meeting! Dilbert was fantastic, he was like my very own pacer, he kept me going during the last 3 miles and kept my pace up, I genuinely would have slowed down if it weren’t for him, at one point it was like a war movie “you go on without me, I’m just slowing you down!” :P But I kept up (sorry if I slowed you down Dilbert) and we crossed the line together in 1hr48! Beyond delighted, was really hoping to do it in 1hr50 so to beat that by over a minute was fantastic.:D:D
I was surprised how wrecked I was though, I’ve only done two races before, a 10k and 9 miles relay in the Cork Marathon, and in each of those I felt fine at the end. But yesterday, I was really wrecked, would have struggled to run on much further, but I’m hoping that’s just due to the heat and the pace I was running at. I have never felt so tired at the end of any run before. Is that normal in races???
Well done everyone on some great LSR’s last week. Can’t believe we’re at the half way mark already!0 -
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So, I had my first even ½ marathon yesterday in Clonmel. Great race, nicely organised, small field of 400-500 so didn’t feel crowded. I was a bit nervous as my husband was working so I was on my own, and I couldn’t find the place so felt a bit frazzled! The weather was warm and muggy, not ideal running weather. The first two miles were tough, a steady incline, one of those ‘not really a hill’ hills that you don’t notice in a car but you sure as hell notice when running! My plan was to try and keep the 1hr45 pacers in sight, but I soon realised that wasn’t going to happen so I just plugged on at my own pace. Enjoyed miles 3-7 when we got off the main road and on to the back roads. Plenty of water stations, but not much local support unfortunately, I suppose the match being on affected that. Took gels at 6 and 10 miles. Started to find the going tough at about 9.5 miles, legs felt heavy, was feeling like I was in a cold sweat. A guy came up beside me and said, “I’ve been behind you from the beginning, you don’t want to let me beat you now!” Turns out that guy was our very own Dilbert75! Total random meeting! Dilbert was fantastic, he was like my very own pacer, he kept me going during the last 3 miles and kept my pace up, I genuinely would have slowed down if it weren’t for him, at one point it was like a war movie “you go on without me, I’m just slowing you down!” :P But I kept up (sorry if I slowed you down Dilbert) and we crossed the line together in 1hr48! Beyond delighted, was really hoping to do it in 1hr50 so to beat that by over a minute was fantastic.:D:D
I was surprised how wrecked I was though, I’ve only done two races before, a 10k and 9 miles relay in the Cork Marathon, and in each of those I felt fine at the end. But yesterday, I was really wrecked, would have struggled to run on much further, but I’m hoping that’s just due to the heat and the pace I was running at. I have never felt so tired at the end of any run before. Is that normal in races???
Well done everyone on some great LSR’s last week. Can’t believe we’re at the half way mark already!
Excellent time - congrats. And fair play to Dilbert 0 -
So, I had my first even ½ marathon yesterday in Clonmel. Great race, nicely organised, small field of 400-500 so didn’t feel crowded. I was a bit nervous as my husband was working so I was on my own, and I couldn’t find the place so felt a bit frazzled! The weather was warm and muggy, not ideal running weather. The first two miles were tough, a steady incline, one of those ‘not really a hill’ hills that you don’t notice in a car but you sure as hell notice when running! My plan was to try and keep the 1hr45 pacers in sight, but I soon realised that wasn’t going to happen so I just plugged on at my own pace. Enjoyed miles 3-7 when we got off the main road and on to the back roads. Plenty of water stations, but not much local support unfortunately, I suppose the match being on affected that. Took gels at 6 and 10 miles. Started to find the going tough at about 9.5 miles, legs felt heavy, was feeling like I was in a cold sweat. A guy came up beside me and said, “I’ve been behind you from the beginning, you don’t want to let me beat you now!” Turns out that guy was our very own Dilbert75! Total random meeting! Dilbert was fantastic, he was like my very own pacer, he kept me going during the last 3 miles and kept my pace up, I genuinely would have slowed down if it weren’t for him, at one point it was like a war movie “you go on without me, I’m just slowing you down!” :P But I kept up (sorry if I slowed you down Dilbert) and we crossed the line together in 1hr48! Beyond delighted, was really hoping to do it in 1hr50 so to beat that by over a minute was fantastic.:D:D
I was surprised how wrecked I was though, I’ve only done two races before, a 10k and 9 miles relay in the Cork Marathon, and in each of those I felt fine at the end. But yesterday, I was really wrecked, would have struggled to run on much further, but I’m hoping that’s just due to the heat and the pace I was running at. I have never felt so tired at the end of any run before. Is that normal in races???
Well done everyone on some great LSR’s last week. Can’t believe we’re at the half way mark already!
Great running ncmc, i'd say reason you felt so tired is because you ran the race as hard as you could and had nothing left which is the way your suppose to run races.0 -
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Sounds like you had a great race Ncmc. That was a brill time Well done to Dilbert too. It is great when you're wrecked to have someone to encourage you to put in that little bit more effort
Thanks for the award btw....if you think i'm strange now wait till we start tapering :eek:0 -
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