Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

dfx-

Caveman1 wrote: »

Pato has signed for Corinthians for €15 million, I know he's had his injuries but thats an absolute bargain, would of loved to see him at Chelsea.

How has nobody bettered that?:eek:

the_monkey

Whats the odds that Sturridge will start piling them in with Liverpool ?

Caveman1

hobbit of the shire wrote: »

Really? That's mad, does that say how well the Brazilian league is doing or how poor Pato has been?

I think its more to do with the fact that the Brazilian economy is booming so they can afford to keep their best players & also bring the big names back.

Hopefully the Brazilian players at Chelsea don't follow the usual trend of making your name then going off the boil, packing on the weight then heading back home, its actually shocking the amount of world class Brazilians that seem to loose the hunger for football so early on in their careers.

Caveman1

dfx- wrote: »

How has nobody bettered that?:eek:

I don't actually know, it seems a strange one alright, unless there's something in the contract that allows Milan 1st choice on Corinthinas players in the future ?

Sgt Pepper 64

Panthro wrote: »

This policy of letting players over 30 basically walk out the door once their contract is up will bite Chelsea very hard in the not too distant future.
You cannot, cannot get a better role model and a more positive influence in the dressing room than the likes of Frank Lampard. Him being allowed to leave Chelsea is beyond the height of stupidity in my opinion.

dENIED

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1287220/lampard-agent-denies-exit-claims?cc=5739

Caveman1

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

dENIED

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1287220/lampard-agent-denies-exit-claims?cc=5739

You've got to love transfer season, I think anyone with a twitter account could make up a rumour and get it on the yellow breaking news bar on Sky Sports news. :pac:

GavRedKing

dfx- wrote: »

How has nobody bettered that?:eek:

It's certainly a weird one to say the least, maybe Pato wants to go home for a stint and try a resurrection his career.

I imagine he'll be back in Europe in the next 2 years, if he plays well and stays injury free, a real shame as the lad has massive potential.

kryogen

Panthro wrote: »

This policy of letting players over 30 basically walk out the door once their contract is up will bite Chelsea very hard in the not too distant future.
You cannot, cannot get a better role model and a more positive influence in the dressing room than the likes of Frank Lampard. Him being allowed to leave Chelsea is beyond the height of stupidity in my opinion.

Paying him the kind of money he is reportedly looking for to stay would be the height of stupidity imho. Not an ideal situation to be in but the figures make letting him go the right call from my point of view. Its not as if he wont be replaced

kryogen

dfx- wrote: »

How has nobody bettered that?:eek:

Great signing potentially for them, they already have the best defence in South America, it should make them even more potent up front, he wanted to go home by all accounts and I am pretty certain Milan would not have let him go so cheap to a European rival.

He has not progressed the way they thought he would either, he needs to be playing regularly now to get his career back on track, still young enough to make an appearance in Europe again at some stage

GavRedKing

kryogen wrote: »

Great signing potentially for them, they already have the best defence in South America, it should make them even more potent up front, he wanted to go home by all accounts and I am pretty certain Milan would not have let him go so cheap to a European rival.

He has not progressed the way they thought he would either, he needs to be playing regularly now to get his career back on track, still young enough to make an appearance in Europe again at some stage

Hope so, he was a player I always liked to watch. He could also be going home to enhance his chances of making the Brazil 2014 World Cup squad.

kryogen

GavRedKing wrote: »

Hope so, he was a player I always liked to watch. He could also be going home to enhance his chances of making the Brazil 2014 World Cup squad.

He was very exciting when he came on the scene but he hasn't lived up to expectations, he has had serious injury problems which is a shame. I hope he just stays clear of injury and starts to play regularly again. Great to watch when on form

peteeeed

is malouda in the last year of his contact? surely he has to be moved on in this transfer window

GavRedKing

Article that highlights or CF's since Roman tookover.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2256507/Demba-Ba-moves-Chelsea--strikers-graveyard.html

Goes on to suggest only Drogba and maybe Anelka and Crespo were good enough.

peteeeed

GavRedKing wrote: »

Article that highlights or CF's since Roman tookover.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2256507/Demba-Ba-moves-Chelsea--strikers-graveyard.html

Goes on to suggest only Drogba and maybe Anelka and Crespo were good enough.

crespo was such a good player , pity his wife wouldn't live in london . always gave his all and scored some important goals for the club

GavRedKing

peteeeed wrote: »

crespo was such a good player , pity his wife wouldn't live in london . always gave his all and scored some important goals for the club

I remember his rocket on the opening day against Wigan I think in the last few minutes when we won 3-2.

Also remember a good goal against Liverpool at Anfield.

Caveman1

lads for anyone thats on Instagram, you should give John Terry a follow - J26Terry.

He posted a pic a while ago of homself & Lamps holdong the Fa Cup with a message underneath, "Devastated is an understatement, we should retire the number 8 shirt in honour of Lamps."

Thats an official page, so it looks like Lamps is defo gone at the end of the season, might even be during this window?

GavRedKing

Caveman1 wrote: »

lads for anyone thats on Instagram, you should give John Terry a follow - J26Terry.

He posted a pic a while ago of homself & Lamps holdong the Fa Cup with a message underneath, "Devastated is an understatement, we should retire the number 8 shirt in honour of Lamps."

Thats an official page, so it looks like Lamps is defo gone at the end of the season, might even be during this window?

I'd love if Lampard could stay, he'd almost certainly beat Bobby Tambling's all time goal scoring record if he did, hes only one short of Dixon at the moment on 192 which is outstanding.

Caveman1

GavRedKing wrote: »

I'd love if Lampard could stay, he'd almost certainly beat Bobby Tambling's all time goal scoring record if he did, hes only one short of Dixon at the moment on 192 which is outstanding.

It would be good if he could stay, but in fairness if you look at it from the clubs point of view, he's one of the highest earners who realistically will struggle to stay in the team this season let alone another 2 years.

If Lamps was to move on during this transfer window, how much do you think he would be sold for ?

GavRedKing

Caveman1 wrote: »

It would be good if he could stay, but in fairness if you look at it from the clubs point of view, he's one of the highest earners who realistically will struggle to stay in the team this season let alone another 2 years.

If Lamps was to move on during this transfer window, how much do you think he would be sold for ?

I couldnt guess, depends where he goes, if its to America I imagine it will be for low money, if its to another European club......stabbing in the dark anywhere from £1-2 Million max.

Caveman1

GavRedKing wrote: »

I couldnt guess, depends where he goes, if its to America I imagine it will be for low money, if its to another European club......stabbing in the dark anywhere from £1-2 Million max.

Do you think the club could be trying to get him off the wage bill, to free up funds for another top player..cough..cough Falcao :pac:

GavRedKing

Caveman1 wrote: »

Do you think the club could be trying to get him off the wage bill, to free up funds for another top player..cough..cough Falcao :pac:

Possibily, hes on something like £120-130K a week, I still think there is a year left in him, I'd be more rushing to get rid of Malouda and Yossi, between them they're hoovering up about £170K a week.

what a day

Id love Lamps to hang around to get the goal record but as already mentioned the club comes first. If Lamps can take a huge pay cut defo keep him but he is on massive wages at the moment and the club will need to free up some cash so we can move on.

I was devastaed when Drogba left but we get over these things and will move on, the signing of Hazard and Oscar took the pain away from Drogba leaving and im sure another signing or two will take the pain away from Lamps leaving. The two lads are legends and will never be forgotten but we have to move on and sign two new legends, Mata is next in line to succeed Lampard now we have to get our new Drogba : - )

Caveman1

GavRedKing wrote: »

Possibily, hes on something like £120-130K a week, I still think there is a year left in him, I'd be more rushing to get rid of Malouda and Yossi, between them they're hoovering up about £170K a week.

Seen on twitter this morning that Malouda is off to Evian.

Don't know where Yossi will end up, although I don't think he's good enough for us now, he never really got a chance in the team.

MaroonAndGreen

Such a pity about Frank.. how can the club seemingly not see what everyone else can?!! He deserves another year and he's well good enough.

It really is sickening.

GavRedKing

Caveman1 wrote: »

Seen on twitter this morning that Malouda is off to Evian.

Don't know where Yossi will end up, although I don't think he's good enough for us now, he never really got a chance in the team.

New career for Malouda so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcVllWpwGs

MaroonAndGreen

http://web.stagram.com/p/361270902199688952_247694870

This is JT's instagram, its surely true now. Goodbye Frank

peteeeed

i'd love to know what franks agent is looking for , it must be a 2 year contract at the very least , when you see that roman brough kings of leon over to the Caribbean to play his new years eve party, why can they not offer frank a deal

GavRedKing

Cech just recently turned 30, but I think he signed an extension for another 3 years.

Any idea how long JT has left on his contract? It seems like as soon as you're in the last year of your contract at Chelsea and you're over 30, you can expect to be let go.

Caveman1

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Such a pity about Frank.. how can the club seemingly not see what everyone else can?!! He deserves another year and he's well good enough.

It really is sickening.

Look at it this way, when the season is over and we have all the loanee players back the midfielders we'll have are as follows:

kevin De Druyne
Josh MacEachran
Ramires
John Obi Mikel
Oriol Romeu
David Luiz ?
Michael essien?

Now Lamps on best form would get in ahead of most of them, but he's getting on now and will definitely only be a bit part player at most.

Why pay a bit part player 150K a week or whatever he's on, when that money could be used to buy another player?

hots

Caveman1 wrote: »

Look at it this way, when the season is over and we have all the loanee players back the midfielders we'll have are as follows:

kevin De Druyne
Josh MacEachran
Ramires
John Obi Mikel
Oriol Romeu
David Luiz ?
Michael essien?

Now Lamps on best form would get in ahead of most of them, but he's getting on now and will definitely only be a bit part player at most.

Why pay a bit part player 150K a week or whatever he's on, when that money could be used to buy another player?

Lampard is the only player in that list that can make a pass and score goals consistently, still at this age. Add on his influence on the younger players and his dressing room presence alone I'd be signing him up for another 2 seasons.

We are lacking winners and leaders in this team terribly and Lampard is one of those people. He'll be sorely missed.

peteeeed

hobbit of the shire wrote: »

Lampard is the only player in that list that can make a pass and score goals consistently, still at this age. Add on his influence on the younger players and his dressing room presence alone I'd be signing him up for another 2 seasons.

We are lacking winners and leaders in this team terribly and Lampard is one of those people. He'll be sorely missed.

definitely, looks at giggs and scholes at man utd, terry, cole and lampard do the same for chelsea

Caveman1

hobbit of the shire wrote: »

Lampard is the only player in that list that can make a pass and score goals consistently, still at this age. Add on his influence on the younger players and his dressing room presence alone I'd be signing him up for another 2 seasons.

We are lacking winners and leaders in this team terribly and Lampard is one of those people. He'll be sorely missed.

AVB, RDM & Rafa all only use Lamps as a bit part player, its obvious that he's not going to be as prolific as he used to be. Now don't get me wrong I would love for him to stay, I'm just looking at it from the clubs point of view, he must get around 6-7 million pound a year in wages, so why spend all that money on a player who will most likely be used as a sub for the most part?

Caveman1

peteeeed wrote: »

definitely, looks at giggs and scholes at man utd, terry, cole and lampard do the same for chelsea

The difference between giggs & Scholes is that they have taken the 1 year extensions, Lamps declined our one year offer afaik.

what a day

Just seen on Twitter that Patrick Bamford was kicked out of the Bridge the other night because stewarts taught he was a QPR fan!!!! WTF is the club at??

Caveman1

what a day wrote: »

Just seen on Twitter that Patrick Bamford was kicked out of the Bridge the other night because stewarts taught he was a QPR fan!!!! WTF is the club at??

I seen that yesterday myself, he was saying that supposedly one of his friends told the stewards as a joke that he and another friend were QPR supporters causing trouble and the steward told them to leave, I actually thought it was pretty funny.

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

Just seen on Twitter that Patrick Bamford was kicked out of the Bridge the other night because stewarts taught he was a QPR fan!!!! WTF is the club at??

Is there a source for that?

hots

Caveman1 wrote: »

AVB, RDM & Rafa all only use Lamps as a bit part player, its obvious that he's not going to be as prolific as he used to be. Now don't get me wrong I would love for him to stay, I'm just looking at it from the clubs point of view, he must get around 6-7 million pound a year in wages, so why spend all that money on a player who will most likely be used as a sub for the most part?

Even as a bit part player I think he has loads to offer. We've seen since he's back from injury how important he can still be, I'm not expecting him to perform like that for 38 games a season but he's done plenty better than most of our other players in the holding roles...

As for wages, sure he's on loads but I think we have worse wages:quality saps (Malouda/Benayoun/Paulo/Essien at the end of the year) that we can cull and pay for another couple of years for him.

Caveman1

Demab Ba deal completed.

http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3030470/title/ba-transfer-completed

MUSEIST

woot woot, no more torres:D

MUSEIST

We should rotate ba and torres. Torres in europe and ba in the league (ba is cup tied for the europa league)

Caveman1

Sgt Pepper 64

-Oscar---Mata---Hazard

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Ba

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Looks ten times better already!

Number 29 shirt... First time it's been dusted off since Robert Huth.

Only cup tied for Europa, so
League=Ba
FA Cup=Ba
Capital Cup=Ba
Europe=Anyone but Torres or some chap called Falcao

Caveman1

I reckon there's a good chance of him starting tomorrow, I'd imagine he would of trained yesterday & today so hopefully we get a look at him.

peteeeed

has to start tomorrow , torres is knackered and ....

McDave

... clapped out.

MUSEIST

peteeeed wrote: »

has to start tomorrow , torres is knackered and ....

...sh!te

Johner

Ba will probably play tomorrow and Wednesday against Swansea. Actually really looking forward to seeing him play for us, lets hope he hits the ground running and scores a couple in his first few games.

peteeeed

MUSEIST wrote: »

...sh!te

thats the one , even though his goal against barca has been watched by me more than an other goal ever , its been tough love this year

peteeeed

Johner wrote: »

Ba will probably play tomorrow and Wednesday against Swansea. Actually really looking forward to seeing him play for us, lets hope he hits the ground running and scores a couple in his first few games.

well when ive seen him play for newcastle, when he gets a chance he pulls the trigger which is what we need

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Number 29 shirt... First time it's been dusted off since Robert Huth.

Super Robert Huth. :pac:

Remember all the promise about him? He turned into a better player then I thought he would though.

He could start tomorrow, I'd be more inclined to play Torres and bring Ba on and then start Ba in the league.