Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Nahhh, he's a shirt seller, utd will have to change their system to play him best, will get knocked off the ball easily, wont like the weather or the hustle and bustle of the EPL, wont get time on the ball and wont have such good players around him.

oh - and he was second choice to Hazard
Round one to us me thinks

Hes a banker for POTY now after that, you jinxed it, he'll socre a hat trick against us to, you wait and see. :pac:

Ah he is a good player though, every team goes through system changes so I wouldnt be surprised to see Utd change it up for this season depending on the opposition I guess, I mean it will probably force their best player into a more advanced CF role to play Kagawa behind him but they could easily play him left or right and use him as an inverted winger, like Young on the left.

what a day

I Havent seen Kawagwa play but i hear nothing but good things about him. Im looking forward to himself Hazard an Marin in the PL next season.
From what iv heard of Kawagwa and the fee Utd paid for him, he sounds like a bargin!! And im sure Utd will benefit from the aisan market with him in their squad. All in all sounds like a great deal for Utd.

Ah well he better be good to help Rooney carry Utd next season :P

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

Apart from the shirt seller you could say the same thing about Eden Hazard.
I don't think you've watched him play too much if your opinion of him is that low.
The Bundesliga is a terrific league with some outstanding gems to be found playing there.

I'd love Toni Kroos at Chelsea, chances of that happening would be fairly slim though, but hes an outstanding player with a bright future.

Same with their left back Alaba, very comfortable up and down the left wing.

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

I Havent seen Kawagwa play but i hear nothing but good things about him. Im looking forward to himself Hazard an Marin in the PL next season.
From what iv heard of Kawagwa and the fee Utd paid for him, he sounds like a bargin!! And im sure Utd will benefit from the aisan market with him in their squad. All in all sounds like a great deal for Utd.

Ah well he better be good to help Rooney carry Utd next season :P

De Gea will be a big part of Utd's season as well I reckon, same with Vidic, if he can come back and not be effected by his injury then they'll be right in the mix.

what a day

Ah im only joking about Utd, as long as fergie is there they will always challenge for all comps and will most certainly be the ones to beat again next season. Utd would still win a trophy if fergie only had the Ireland squad to work with!!

As for Kroos, i have not seen what all the fuss is about. He is a decent young player but TBH i would not say he is outstanding, simular to Hamsik. Loads of rave reviews about him but i cant see him been one of the best in their positions. A good player but id prefer to sign some one Like Modric. As it stands id prefere us stick with Meireles then go for Kroos.

Alaba we dont need Cole and Bertrand are better :cool:

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

Ah im only joking about Utd, as long as fergie is there they will always challenge for all comps and will most certainly be the ones to beat again next season. Utd would still win a trophy if fergie only had the Ireland squad to work with!!

As for Kroos, i have not seen what all the fuss is about. He is a decent young player but TBH i would not say he is outstanding, simular to Hamsik. Loads of rave reviews about him but i cant see him been one of the best in their positions. A good player but id prefer to sign some one Like Modric. As it stands id prefere us stick with Meireles then go for Kroos.

Alaba we dont need Cole and Bertrand are better :cool:

Cole is the best in the world :pac:

I think Hamsik management of a game is very good and his time at Napoli has seen him out in some outstadning displays.

I'd have him at the drop of a hat as he can play anywhere across the middle.

Believe me, I'd rather give Napoli £££££ then give it to Spurs, I'd let Modric where he is TBH, Spurs had there chance to cash in last season.

SlipperyPeople

kroos over meireles every day of the week in a similar mould to schweinsteiger.

I reckon modric is gone to madrid to be honest

what a day

Modric would be a big loss to the PL IMO. The chap is class and one of the best midfielders in the world. Dam Madrid!!! Morinhio wont play him cause he is small. Ozil, Sahin, Kaka, Ronaldo, Di Maria, Granero, Alonso, Kheidera, Altintop, Diarra just off the top of my head, where would Modric fit in considering his fee. ...............Come to Chelsea Luka were you know you are wanted. You wont even have to move house FFS :pac:

SlipperyPeople

what a day wrote: »

Modric would be a big loss to the PL IMO. The chap is class and one of the best midfielders in the world. Dam Madrid!!! Morinhio wont play him cause he is small. Ozil, Sahin, Kaka, Ronaldo, Di Maria, Granero, Alonso, Kheidera, Altintop, Diarra just off the top of my head, where would Modric fit in considering his fee. ...............Come to Chelsea Luka were you know you are wanted. You wont even have to move house FFS :pac:

I agree It would be a loss. I'd love him at chelsea. the rumors going are that spurs will only sell modric to madrid if they get sahin as part of the deal.

I read in the gossip collumns that diarra and altintop were going to be given free tranfers along with fernando gago. That frees up space but still doesnt really leave them short.

just let us have him Jose for fáck sake

what a day

If Spurs got a good cash offer with Sahin that could be quite a coupe for Spurs!

Diarra is still a class player and its a pity he did not stay with us. I taugh Gago was already gone...what a squad Madrid have!

Regarding giving Spurs money that wouldn bother me at all. They sacked a really good manager and lost out on Champions league football. Thats a big blow and an excuse for some of their bigger players to look for a transfer. If they lost Modric to us and received 40m they would struggle to replace Modric. Fair enough, they have 40m so could buy some good players but their squad has holes all over it. Dont for get they need a striker, a center back, would need to replace Modric not to mention Arry. Plus id say Bale and Vaart may be on the move too.

amiable

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304870304577489041716894660.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL -4.71% signed a sponsorship deal with London's Chelsea Football Club, becoming the first U.S. carrier to venture into the world of European club soccer.

The sport's huge popularity and fast-growing following in Asia have already made it a magnet for international airlines looking to raise their profile, notably Etihad Airways and Emirates Airline, which already have sponsorship deals with some of the region's biggest professional clubs.

U.S. airlines have long-established links with U.S. sports, buying up stadium naming rights in big business centers such as New York and Los Angeles, but have hitherto had little presence in soccer.

"Airline advertising [in club soccer] is an area that's growing," said Simon Rines, editorial director at International Marketing Reports Ltd., a sponsorship analyst firm. "It's driven by the Middle Eastern carriers, and I suspect it will be driven by emerging airlines in Asia."

Delta's two-year deal with Chelsea, the newly crowned European club champions, is a relatively small step compared to existing deals signed by rivals in the Middle East and Asia.

Abu Dhabi's Etihad sponsors the shirts of Manchester City FC, this year's English Premier League champions, while Emirates switched its marketing allegiance from Chelsea to Arsenal FC, and also bought the naming rights to the north London club's new stadium.

Tony Fernandez, owner of Malaysia's AirAsia, last year bought control of Queens Park Rangers FC, another London club.

Dubai-based Emirates has used sports sponsorship to fuel its aggressive marketing plans, and already has deals with six soccer clubs in Europe. As part of its U.S. strategy, it is considering plans to advertise during next year's Super Bowl broadcast. The pricey TV spots would follow the pattern of advancing the brand that Emirates has successfully employed in Europe and Asia, backing everything from soccer-club jerseys to polo tournaments.

"The rationale for Emirates was they wanted to grow their branding quite quickly," Mr. Rimes said. "They were playing catch-up and now they've clearly caught up."

Chelsea's shirts will continue to be sponsored by Samsung Electronics Co., 005930.SE -4.23% with Delta becoming "official airline sponsor," a pact that will see its logo displayed at the Stanford Bridge stadium and at club events. The team is currently examining plans for a new stadium.

"It strengthens our brand in the U.K. and around the world," said Katie Hulme, a Delta spokeswoman. "There was an opportunity to work with Chelsea and we've taken it."

As far as an initial push into European soccer, Delta is confident in its choice. Chelsea is hugely popular in London, a major Delta destination, and the team will be playing four exhibition matches this summer in the U.S., creating immediate overlap between domestic and international exposure.

Although the cost of the contract was not disclosed, analysts agree that it is probably not a major outlay of advertising funds and a way for Delta to get its name in front of soccer-loving European and Asian consumers.

"The airlines have been very judicious in spending their money, because they don't have a lot of money to spend." said Helene Becker, analyst at Dahlman Rose & Co. "But they can't afford not to be associated with world-wide sport."

the_doctor199

Not really Chelsea news anymore as such but Spanish media reporting that Drogba is flying to Barca tomorrow to negotiate a move. Apparently a clause in the Shanghai contract that he can leave.

wonderfullife

Guilleme Ballague reporting on Twitter that Drogba to sign for Barcelona (some release clause in his Chinese contract)

amiable

wonderfullife wrote: »

Guilleme Ballague reporting on Twitter that Drogba to sign for Barcelona (some release clause in his Chinese contract)

He didn't say exactly that. He said media outlets in Spain saying he'll sign and others say Barca wont pay his wages.

Crann na Beatha

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GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

If Spurs got a good cash offer with Sahin that could be quite a coupe for Spurs!

Diarra is still a class player and its a pity he did not stay with us. I taugh Gago was already gone...what a squad Madrid have!

Regarding giving Spurs money that wouldn bother me at all. They sacked a really good manager and lost out on Champions league football. Thats a big blow and an excuse for some of their bigger players to look for a transfer. If they lost Modric to us and received 40m they would struggle to replace Modric. Fair enough, they have 40m so could buy some good players but their squad has holes all over it. Dont for get they need a striker, a center back, would need to replace Modric not to mention Arry. Plus id say Bale and Vaart may be on the move too.

'Arry? Really good?

Techless

Apparantly, the Mirror is reporting that Napoli are interested in Meireles.

what a day

:pac: ah Arry done well with what he got, the signings he made with little money and played good football too.

Yeah i think its good news Meireles linked with a move. Papers saying he is 29 i taught he was younger. Thats another reason to cash in on him. replace him with some one younger and better. What he offers in our squad we already have in Lampard,Ramires and Mata.

Modric

Techless

Cavani + Hamsik = Meireles + Maoluda = straight swap

Everyone's a winner

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

:pac: ah Arry done well with what he got, the signings he made with little money and played good football too.

Yeah i think its good news Meireles linked with a move. Papers saying he is 29 i taught he was younger. Thats another reason to cash in on him. replace him with some one younger and better. What he offers in our squad we already have in Lampard,Ramires and Mata.

Modric

I was never convinced by Redknapp, theres was always a lack of a plan B with him for me.

I think he more failing then most managers and lived on been lauded by the media as next England manager for a good few years which turned out to be cack and now hes out of a job.

Will he get another EPL job? Dont know, not really pushed either way.

Now Spurs have the chance to bring in a quality cocah and do more damage as they have a decent squad.

RichT

the_doctor199 wrote: »

Not really Chelsea news anymore as such but Spanish media reporting that Drogba is flying to Barca tomorrow to negotiate a move. Apparently a clause in the Shanghai contract that he can leave.

Load of balderdash according to TalkSPORT.......

Didier Drogba has denied he is about to make a sensational switch to Barcelona.

The former Chelsea striker has agreed to join Chinese club Shanghai Shenhua, but stories emerged on Monday claiming he would renege on that deal to join the Catalan giants.
But Drogba's spokesperson has told talkSPORT the Ivory Coast forward will not be moving to Spain and will honour his two-year contract with Shenhua, which starts next month.
“The story about Didier moving to Barcelona is complete nonsense. As we told you, he will be moving to Shanghai in July on a two-year contract.”
Drogba, 34, became a free agent after eight years at Stamford Bridge, where he completed a clean sweep of trophies. His final act as a Chelsea player was the winning kick in the Champions League final penalty shoot-out against Bayern Munich in May.

I could never imagine Drogba at Barcelona. He has no interest of being a 'squad player' which is exactly what he would be at any BIG club.

the_doctor199

David Luiz included in Brazil's Olympics squad.

David Luiz has been called up to represent Brazil at the London Olympics as one of the three players in the squad over the age of 23.
The 25-year-old will join up with his teammates in Brazil on 9 July for training, before they fly to England to take on Great Britain in a pre-tournament warm-up game at Middlesbrough's Riverside Stadium on 20 July.
The Olympic football competition is scheduled to run from 26 July until 11 August, with the new Barclays Premier League campaign starting a week later.

7.45pm, 26 Jul: Brazil v Egypt (Millennium Stadium, Cardiff)
3.00pm, 29 Jul: Brazil v Belarus (Old Trafford, Manchester)
2.30pm, 1 Aug: Brazil v New Zealand (St James' Park, Newcastle)

GavRedKing

the_doctor199 wrote: »

David Luiz included in Brazil's Olympics squad.

David Luiz has been called up to represent Brazil at the London Olympics as one of the three players in the squad over the age of 23.
The 25-year-old will join up with his teammates in Brazil on 9 July for training, before they fly to England to take on Great Britain in a pre-tournament warm-up game at Middlesbrough's Riverside Stadium on 20 July.
The Olympic football competition is scheduled to run from 26 July until 11 August, with the new Barclays Premier League campaign starting a week later.

7.45pm, 26 Jul: Brazil v Egypt (Millennium Stadium, Cardiff)
3.00pm, 29 Jul: Brazil v Belarus (Old Trafford, Manchester)
2.30pm, 1 Aug: Brazil v New Zealand (St James' Park, Newcastle)

So good you quoted it twice :pac:

Thats gonna be a balls for our EPL campaign, I'd rather have himr ested and fit to go for it then be playing games a week before it.

what a day

The squad should be getting back together some time next week bar players on international duty. Might get to see a closer look at Hazard next week, might even get an interview from him.

Window opens too so hopefully the market picks up and we get some activity on a RB and right winger, both major positions we need to cover.

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

The squad should be getting back together some time next week bar players on international duty. Might get to see a closer look at Hazard next week, might even get an interview from him.

Window opens too so hopefully the market picks up and we get some activity on a RB and right winger, both major positions we need to cover.

Soon as the window opens we'll probably hear from Hazard then.

Lets just play Luiz RB, the Debuchy talks seem to have come and gone along with the V.D.Wiel gossip.

Didnt Mata say he'd love to play in the Olympics to?

what a day

Yeah Mata wants to go to the olympics too, thankfully he aint getting much game time for spain so he should not be burnt out again the league starts.

Im not saying Luiz cant play as a RB but i dont think we should play him there, he should mainly play as a CB but he definitly can cover at RB. We need to get a specialist RB IMO. Havin said that id love to see Luiz play as a defensive midfielder.

I cant wait to see what DiMatteo can do now he has pace and width in the squad.....well on one side any way

GavRedKing

I cant see many of Spain's players wanting to play in the Olympics after the Euro's and is there some rule where your only allowed 3 over 25's or something along them lines?

He could very well be integral to a Spainish bid.

what a day

Good man Ivan, he is reported as saying he wants Modric to join us!!

Techless

what a day wrote: »

Good man Ivan, he is reported as saying he wants Modric to join us!!

The best part of this is that Ivan says Modric should move to a bigger club - nice one Ivan

GavRedKing

Techless wrote: »

The best part of this is that Ivan says Modric should move to a bigger club - nice one Ivan

If you look at both clubs hsitory and current standings within the game we are argubaly a bigger club.

Dont think theres to much trolling on Ivan's behalf.

what a day

Ivanovic is a clever man he know what he is talking about.....come on Luka you know you want to. Join the blue revolution!!!

bullpost

This one will end in tears. I'd rather be part of a small happening club with a future than a bigger club going nowhere.

gavredking wrote: »

If you look at both clubs hsitory and current standings within the game we are argubaly a bigger club.

Dont think theres to much trolling on Ivan's behalf.

grumpymunster

I think 'Arry did a decent job when you consider where they were when he took over. It is a shame we are stuck with Trap for another 2 years think 'Arry would do well enough for us.

That said we are without doubt the bigger club, they have one more FA cup than us but we have two more leagues. They have not won a league since 1961 thats a few generations ago so I am not sure you could describe Spurs as a big club now.

And of course in case the news has not filtered through yet we are current champions of Europe

GavRedKing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A8KxMEMw18

Terrible quality video but best penalty of the final goes to David " 3 mile run up " Luiz.

amiable

Are Chelsea fans expecting McEachran to break in to the first team this season or will he be loaned out again?

GavRedKing

I expected him to break in last season if I'm honest and to push for a start but the signing of Meireles, who in fairness was ok for last season, he had games when he was very good and some he didnt look related to a footballer and that didnt help Josh's chances, even Romeu was getting gaes ahead of him and he got dropped never to be seen again even though he had a run of half a dozen games where he was good.

The only hope he has is we havent signed a CM so far this window, if we off load Meireles and Malouda then Romeu and Josh Mac might get a chance, I think they have ability to play at this level but I'm not sure will they flourish.

I do think Josh has a better chance though as hes a very tidy calm midfielder and good on the ball with an eye for a pass.

what a day

I think its 50/50 on McEachran. IMO he should be retained this season and played in all our Carling cup games and some FA/PL games. He is ready for our first team. He plays very simular to the way Lampard now plays and he should be the natural successor to Lamps.

I still believe if we off load Meireles Malouda Essien and Yossi we can still buy a top quality midfielder and still give Josh reasonable game time. depending on the formation we play we may even need further signings.

amiable

what a day wrote: »

I think its 50/50 on McEachran. IMO he should be retained this season and played in all our Carling cup games and some FA/PL games. He is ready for our first team. He plays very simular to the way Lampard now plays and he should be the natural successor to Lamps.

I still believe if we off load Meireles Malouda Essien and Yossi we can still buy a top quality midfielder and still give Josh reasonable game time. depending on the formation we play we may even need further signings.

If he's ready why couldn't he get a game at Swansea?

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

I think its 50/50 on McEachran. IMO he should be retained this season and played in all our Carling cup games and some FA/PL games. He is ready for our first team. He plays very simular to the way Lampard now plays and he should be the natural successor to Lamps.

I still believe if we off load Meireles Malouda Essien and Yossi we can still buy a top quality midfielder and still give Josh reasonable game time. depending on the formation we play we may even need further signings.

He could very easily play in the 2 holding positions, play Mikel and Josh Macand let Mikel do the cleaning up and sweeping and Josh to do the creative work from deep.

Every team needs adeep lying midfielder that can collect and start play off and we dont really have one at the moment, other then Meireles.

When we do lack the creative CM we're relying on Mata to drop very deep which is hindering his influence higher up the pitch.

amiable wrote: »

If he's ready why couldn't he get a game at Swansea?

I thought he would, they have a good footballing philosphy but TBH it was going to be hard to break into the team that was doing so well and was trusted by Rodgers.

amiable

But he didn't make an impression at Swansea Gav so I'm not sure how some could expect him to at Chelsea.

what a day

amiable wrote: »

If he's ready why couldn't he get a game at Swansea?

He didn get his game because he was back up to Rodgers starting midfield who have been brilliant. Swansea had to win every point posible and could not afford to risk a youngster like Josh in order to survive the in the PL.

For any one who has watch Josh Mc knows how good he is and its going to be hard for any 19 year old to break into a Chelsea squad. This is the only reason he is not playing for Chelsea now, we have so many other players at the club that could be moved on and let Josh have a chance.
This is also the reason why i said its 50/50 as he could be loaned out again to get games with another club unless we offload some of our midfield.

LanceStorm

amiable wrote: »

But he didn't make an impression at Swansea Gav so I'm not sure how some could expect him to at Chelsea.

he's not good enough, simple as.

if he was then he would have taken that chance, but he didnt!

he'll go out on loan next season and we'll start the testing process all over again, if he makes it at that club and shines then he's ready!

the team wont struggle if he dosent make it so its not exactly our biggest worry!

grumpymunster

I really dont see how Josh benefited from his time at Swansea. I dont know why but it just did not happen for him, I really think he should be given a chance here with us. We keep being told our facilities are world class as are our coaches, if that is the case with the amount of games we hopefully will play next season he will get game time. So training in great facilities with a great squad if that does not bring him on I dont know what would.

I hope he does not go to the likes of Southampton just for the sake of it.

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

But he didn't make an impression at Swansea Gav so I'm not sure how some could expect him to at Chelsea.

Lance's point is correct, it was a mix of Swansea's midfield trio playing exceptionally well and pulling off good results and the fact that he may not be up to it yet.

He is a very slightly built guy, doesnt mean much to Iniesta, Xavi I suppose. :pac:

Mmmm its tough to call, I think hes close to been good enough but he can only be judged if hes given time and under Carlo he was given a few games across a number of different competitions and played fairly well so we'll see how he does on pre-season I guess.

Hes got a better chance then Kakuta IMO and I knwo you have high hopes for Gael.

what a day

gavredking wrote: »

He could very easily play in the 2 holding positions, play Mikel and Josh Macand let Mikel do the cleaning up and sweeping and Josh to do the creative work from deep.

Every team needs adeep lying midfielder that can collect and start play off and we dont really have one at the moment, other then Meireles.

When we do lack the creative CM we're relying on Mata to drop very deep which is hindering his influence higher up the pitch.
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Spot on Gav, every one compared Josh to Lamps when he was played further up the pitch but it was Ancholotti that played him deeper and he was brilliant for his age. I honestly think only Meireles has better strength and more expierince, Josh is a better player than Meireles.

GavRedKing

I cant wait for our treble this year.

amiable

gavredking wrote: »

I cant wait for our treble this year.

With the right signings anything is possible for Chelsea in fairness.

amiable

LanceStorm wrote: »

he's not good enough, simple as.

if he was then he would have taken that chance, but he didnt!

he'll go out on loan next season and we'll start the testing process all over again, if he makes it at that club and shines then he's ready!

the team wont struggle if he dosent make it so its not exactly our biggest worry!

I take your point and I'd tend to agree with you but I'm trying to figure out why some journos who have seen him play a lot rate him so highly.
Some reckon he is destined to play regularly for England.
Would he be nurtured differently if he were in Spain I wonder considering how slight he is?

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

With the right signings anything is possible for Chelsea in fairness.

True, I think we're still 2 or 3 players short of a " complete " squad.

At the moment we havent replaced Drogba, although Lukaku is there but the jury is out on him until he gets game time.

A CM and RB would be very handy to although the latter isnt really a necessity with Hutchinson and Ivanovic able to play there.

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

I take your point and I'd tend to agree with you but I'm trying to figure out why some journos who have seen him play a lot rate him so highly.
Some reckon he is destined to play regularly for England.
Would he be nurtured differently if he were in Spain I wonder considering how slight he is?

Defiently, I touched on how slight he is, he looks thinner and less defined then Ramires but Ramires has the engine and speed that Josh cant rely on that can get him a round the park.

Josh is really specific player and there isnt to many of his type that are British, maybe Cleverly at Utd, Ramsey at Arsenal, Josh has a simialr mindset and ball playing abaility aswell as technique and vision, if he was allowed to flourish he could turn into a good play maker I reckon.

Its long been established that England dont produce players of this mould but there is some hope for them if teaems can adjust their game and to be fair, alot of the under age sides are taking a contential look at things and trying to introduce technique and ball retintion as opposed to hoofing and lumping.