Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

what a day

I know we probably have the best record against them in europe but they are still the best in the world currently and are the best team i have ever seen play football. As im only 30 i have not seen the teams of the 60s and 70s so i cannot compare.

As for them poaching players, ever club does it and im not saying its right but it works for Barca and not many players would turn them down. I understand what you mean but im just being honest with my opinion. I admire them very much, but deep down i still hate them. Love watching them play bar Pedro and Biscuts diving.

grumpymunster

what a day wrote: »

I know we probably have the best record against them in europe but they are still the best in the world currently and are the best team i have ever seen play football. As im only 30 i have not seen the teams of the 60s and 70s so i cannot compare.

As for them poaching players, ever club does it and im not saying its right but it works for Barca and not many players would turn them down. I understand what you mean but im just being honest with my opinion. I admire them very much, but deep down i still hate them. Love watching them play bar Pedro and Biscuts diving.

Fabrigas (? spelling) does a fairly decent line in diving as well, it was him who dived when Drogs looked at him was it not

grumpymunster

GavRedKing wrote: »

We still have an excellent record against Barcelona in head to head's in recent times.

Chelsea - P12 W4 D5 L3 GF18 GA18

Barcelona - P12 W3 D5 L4 GF18 GA18

Results since 99-00

I knew we had a decent record did not realise it was that good. Still THAT semi final defeat still hurts

GavRedKing

Id still take Busquets at a heart beat, hes easily one of the best DM around, his touch and passing are exceptional and his positioning is second to none.

MUSEIST

According to SSN deals for Moses and Oscar could be completed over the next few days. Both those deals are looking like certanties now.

Crann na Beatha

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amiable

Aquila wrote: »

Will Moses be able for Chelsea's level?has anyone seen him play regularly?

Very wasteful but perhaps he could improve.
At the moment he is not good enough IMO.

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

According to SSN deals for Moses and Oscar could be completed over the next few days. Both those deals are looking like certanties now.

The are quoting the mouthpiece Dave Whelan on Sky.
I'd say Chelsea are annoyed with this.

MUSEIST

He would be no more than a squad player anyway.

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

He would be no more than a squad player anyway.

I wonder would he be a replacement for Sturridge?

PeterTwo

amiable wrote: »

I wonder would he be a replacement for Sturridge?

Perhaps 3rd choice striker with the ability to fill in on the wings also. Assuming that Lukaku goes out on loan of course.

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

I wonder would he be a replacement for Sturridge?

Hopefully not, I think Sturridge ia a better player at the moment. If we sell Sturridge we'd struggle to get £10million so replacing him with Moses for similar money would be silly.

Techless

GavRedKing wrote: »

Hopefully not, I think Sturridge ia a better player at the moment. If we sell Sturridge we'd struggle to get £10million so replacing him with Moses for similar money would be silly.

IMO he would be a good buy. He came to the fore near the end of wigans campaign when they started playing some nice football (more attractive to watch than chelsea) and he was arguably their main man. He's a raw 21 year old but should only improve by playing with a better team.

SlipperyPeople

we've signed Thorgan Hazard according to Chelsea Youth on twitter

Chelsea Youth ‏@chelseayouth
Chelsea have just confirmed the signing of Thorgan Hazard on Blues News.

amiable

GavRedKing wrote: »

amiable wrote: »

I wonder would he be a replacement for Sturridge?

Hopefully not, I think Sturridge ia a better player at the moment. If we sell Sturridge we'd struggle to get £10million so replacing him with Moses for similar money would be silly.

Sturridge in the last year of his contract so the situation is not exactly the same.
I see your point though as Sturridge is much further developed than Moses.

PeterTwo

amiable wrote: »

Sturridge in the last year of his contract so the situation is not exactly the same.
I see your point though as Sturridge is much further developed than Moses.

I think Moses is also in the last year of his contract.

McDave

amiable wrote: »

Sturridge in the last year of his contract

Sell! :pac:

GavRedKing

Techless wrote: »

IMO he would be a good buy. He came to the fore near the end of wigans campaign when they started playing some nice football (more attractive to watch than chelsea) and he was arguably their main man. He's a raw 21 year old but should only improve by playing with a better team.

Id personally rather we not go after him, Whelan is a less then nice character and runs to media spouting figures when it would be more professional to keep it under wraps and get the deal done.

GavRedKing

McDave wrote: »

Sell! :pac:

We could be forced to and at a discount. Id rather get a few million now then lose him for feck all next year.
Edit : I also understand Man City are due some percentage of a future fee if we do sell.

amiable

PeterTwo wrote: »

I think Moses is also in the last year of his contract.

I don't think he is. I'm sure someone will clarify it though.
If he is then 10 million for Moses would be crazy IMO.

McDave

GavRedKing wrote: »

We could be forced to and at a discount. Id rather get a few million now then lose him for feck all next year.
Edit : I also understand Man City are due some percentage of a future fee if we do sell.

If we sign another proven forward, what with Torres and Lukaku (if he's actually at the Bridge next season), I don't think there'll be much space for Sturridge. He did get chances last year, but he didn't really convincingly win many people over in what will probably transpire to be a transitional year for Chelsea.

He's had a big chance, and he doesn't seem to have been too willing to learn. I don't think he'll be able to live up to next season's high expectations, especially in the premiership where an intelligent passing game based on skill and awareness will probably be built.

GavRedKing

Hope this works.

Its a picture of Bobby Tambling and Zola at the Cork City v Watford game.

http://m.facebook.com/home.php?__user=1411653537#!/photo.php?fbid=440508762656271&id=120574757983008&set=a.120580061315811.8618.120574757983008&__user=1411653537

Dozen Wicked Words

GavRedKing wrote: »

Hope this works.

Its a picture of Bobby Tambling and Zola at the Cork City v Watford game.

http://m.facebook.com/home.php?__user=1411653537#!/photo.php?fbid=440508762656271&id=120574757983008&set=a.120580061315811.8618.120574757983008&__user=1411653537

That is fantastic, 2 absolute legends and 2 absolute gentlemen by all accounts. Great, unposed picture.

GavRedKing

dooferoaks wrote: »

That is fantastic, 2 absolute legends and 2 absolute gentlemen by all accounts. Great, unposed picture.

Ya its an excellent picture alright, one of my buddies managed to meet Zola and have a few words.

Panthro

Bit of fighting talk from Torres, he's mad to win a Premier League medal.
Story

GavRedKing

Panthro wrote: »

Bit of fighting talk from Torres, he's mad to win a Premier League medal.
Story

Hopefully we can do it, we need another one or two leagues in the next few years IMO.

Roman'smoney has brought success that most of us couldnt have dreamt of prior to his arrival but in England we've won 3 league titles in 8 years when it looked like we would sweep all before us.

If we can add another one at the end of the season and be the 2nd most successful EPL team then I'd be delighted as it will take us one clear of Arsenal and makes us Londons most successful club.

what a day

Moses for €10m is crazy money i think considering he is in his last year of his contract. He will replace Kalou shortly enough as a back up player and should be our next offical signing. Oscar to follow along with Azpilicueta and Cavani will hopfully finish our summer spending spree.

I think we have a long long way to go Gav before we can be the 2nd most sucsseful club in England. But you are right we do need to win a few more PL titles over the next few years!

GavRedKing

what a day wrote: »

Moses for €10m is crazy money i think considering he is in his last year of his contract. He will replace Kalou shortly enough as a back up player and should be our next offical signing. Oscar to follow along with Azpilicueta and Cavani will hopfully finish our summer spending spree.

I think we have a long long way to go Gav before we can be the 2nd most sucsseful club in England. But you are right we do need to win a few more PL titles over the next few years!

One more EPL title and we are the 2nd most successful team in the EPL era.

Take our 3 EPL titles
1 UCL title
5 FA cups
3 League Cups

Thats a fairly impressive haul since '92.

Also a bit on De Bruyne :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2178628/Chelsea-loan-Kevin-Bruyne-Werder-Bremen.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Chelsea’s former Genk winger, signed on a five-and-a-half year deal for £7million in January, admitted earlier this week he was ready to consider a temporary move in his quest for first-team football.

Sportsmail understands that has led to an agreement being struck with Werder Bremen and that he will join them on a season-long loan on his return from Chelsea’s current tour of the United States.

Speaking after playing in the first half of Chelsea’s 1-1 draw with Paris St Germain in New York’s Yankee Stadium, the 21-year old said: ‘For me, it is important to be playing. If that is not going to happen at Chelsea, perhaps it is better to go to another club and get some games.
‘I am pleased with how I have adapted so far, and I know I will continue to grow as a player. We will sort something out one way or another after we get back to London.’

A loan might hopefully stand to the young lad, but one would question why we are sending these guys out on loan unless we had other deals in place, like Moses/Cavani etc etc

amiable

amiable wrote: »

I don't think he is. I'm sure someone will clarify it though.
If he is then 10 million for Moses would be crazy IMO.

PeterTwo wrote: »

I think Moses is also in the last year of his contract.

I stand corrected. It seems Moses is in the last year of his contract.
I thought he had signed a new contract last season.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-increase-victor-moses-bid-7976107.html

Chelsea have lodged a new bid for Wigan striker Victor Moses that could be worth up to £9million.

Wigan have rejected three lower offers, which have also included taking Josh McEachran or Romelu Lukaku on loan from Chelsea.

Moses, 21, has one year left on his contract and is valued at more than £10m by chairman Dave Whelan, who is interested only in a cash deal.

It is understood the two clubs are close to reaching an agreement, with Chelsea prepared to pay £6m up front and another £3m in performance-related add-ons.

Chelsea have bid for a number of attacking players over the summer, including Hulk, Willian, Andre Schurrle and Robert Lewandowski, but Moses appeals to them because of his potential and the fact he will also qualify as a home-grown player for the Champions League.

Thorgan Hazard will join his older brother Eden at Stamford Bridge after Chelsea last night confirmed his signing from Lens.

Pepe LeFrits

Football existed before 1992.

GavRedKing

Really? :eek:

Got to go check some of that out so.

SlipperyPeople

some reports saying oscar deal might be done as early as tomorrow...

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/7/25/3185101/the-oscar-deal-could-be-completed-as-early-as-thursday-now?

GavRedKing

hungoverbunny wrote: »

some reports saying oscar deal might be done as early as tomorrow...

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/7/25/3185101/the-oscar-deal-could-be-completed-as-early-as-thursday-now?

I'm actually surprised we arent still pushing for Modric. If Madrid do get him for the price they want to apparently pay (£27 Million) and our bid last year of £40 Million was rejected then its fairly funny.

Its clear Modric doesnt want to be at Spurs, he handed in a transfer request last year and he refused to go on pre-season tour to America this year.

Sgt Pepper 64

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Football existed before 1992.

Arrr, the Arsenal fan speaks!

Wasnt before 1992 the last time you won anything?

GavRedKing

List of brothers that have played for Chelsea, seeming as we wrapped up a deal for Thorgan Hazard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9425618/Chelsea-sign-Thorgan-Hazard-from-Lens-to-play-alongside-his-brother-Eden.html

Should he and Eden both play for Roberto Di Matteo's side they will join Ray and Graham Wilkins, Ron and Allan Harris, John and Peter Sillett and Chris and William Ferguson as brothers who have played together in Chelsea's first team.

Meanwhile, Chelsea confirmed three of their young players have gone on loan, with attacking midfielder Ulises Davila joining Spanish second division team Sabadell and striker Milan Lakovic and goalkeeper Matej Delac moving to Guimaraes in the Portuguese top flight

If Eden and Thorgan play together it could be Hazardous for the EPL.

:P

Meglamonia

GavRedKing wrote: »

List of brothers that have played for Chelsea, seeming as we wrapped up a deal for Thorgan Hazard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9425618/Chelsea-sign-Thorgan-Hazard-from-Lens-to-play-alongside-his-brother-Eden.html



If Eden and Thorgan play together it could be Hazardous for the EPL.

:P

Can't wait for the match tonight makes it better we're on tv instead of having to find a stream.Will Torres play some part?

GavRedKing

Hopefulyl he'll get 30-35 mins at the end, dont think he'll start but playing an MLS 11 should mean a slower pace then the PSG game so you never know but I'd doubt RDM will give him the full 90 mins.

kev1.3s

What channel is the match on?

GavRedKing

kev1.3s wrote: »

What channel is the match on?

Chelsea TV

If you need some sort of stream like thingy I'd suggest PM'ing somebody.

GavRedKing

Any streams lads please do share....via PM that is.

Kev is looking for one, I could be in the market for a reliable one to.

thebison

Its live on Setanta Ireland....

I have UPC so i get it without paying

GavRedKing

thebison wrote: »

Its live on Setanta Ireland....

I have UPC so i get it without paying

Booooo

Pepe LeFrits

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Arrr, the Arsenal fan speaks!

Wasnt before 1992 the last time you won anything?

I don't know, football started in 2012 for me.

GavRedKing

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

I don't know, football started in 2012 for me.

We've no history anyway so I'm more then happy to agree with ya. Any updae on Wilshire actually??

Pepe LeFrits

GavRedKing wrote: »

We've no history anyway so I'm more then happy to agree with ya. Any updae on Wilshire actually??

Still filming an extended Rocky montage in the gym.

kingtubby

Oscar confirmed by Chelsea
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2860692,00.html

Panthro

Will he be loaned out like Kevin was?

amiable

Panthro wrote: »

Will he be loaned out like Kevin was?

Would you like him to be loaned out?

GavRedKing

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Still filming an extended Rocky montage in the gym.

If Ramsey can produce some of the form he showed last year ye'll be sorted when Wilshire does come back.

SureYWouldntYa

Oscar deal confirmed, on the Chelsea FC site and all

Premier League and Champions League champions 2012/13