Your favourite alternative hip hop acts.

Bobby Baccala

Name favourites, you can list tracks, albums, whatever.

here's mine in no particular order, it'd be too hard to sort them.

Tribe called quest
Lauryn hill (solo)
Pete Rock and C.L Smooth
Pharcyde
Fugees
Gang starr
Outkast
Common
Leaders of the new school.
Mos def (Solo and with blackstar)
Beastie boys

I just gave a top ten, you don't necessarily have to name ten, i just narrowed it down a bit.

conor.hogan.2

• Tonedeff (all of QN5 but specifically Tonedeff)
• Sage Francis (I dunno, I suppose he belongs here?)
• KRS-One (does he belong here?)
• Canibus (belongs?)
• Jurassic 5
• Jedi Mind Tricks
• Immortal Technique (belongs?)
• Outkast
• Gym Class Heroes
• De La Soul
• Fort Minor
• Rage Against The Machine
• Scroobius Pip ( of him and dan la sac fame)
• Messiah J (of Messiah J and The Expert fame)
• Blackstar/Talib/Mos/yasiin
• ATCQ
• Hopsin
• Cee-Lo
• Beasties
• Ganstarr
• Fugees
• MC Solaar (French)
• OG Hindu Kush (Canadian)
• Sahtyre (Cali)
• Jin
• Lupe?

This list is only vaguely in descending order. WTC and PE would rank high if they counted.

Bobby Baccala

Wu tang don't really belong, they're more gangster rap than anything.
PE were afrocentric/militant style hip hop, not really alternative.
Tech im not sure, i honestly don't know what sub category he'd fit into.

Otherwise solid list, some artists i forgot to put in mine that i really should have.

conor.hogan.2

Changed the list a bit, hard as hell to rank.

Bobby Baccala

Arrested development are one i forgot actually, really really mellow group had some excellent singles.

tossy

This is a joke right? Alternative hip hop? Acts like Pete rock,gangstarr,PE,KRS,J5 are straight up bonafide hip hop :rolleyes:

conor.hogan.2

Hence all the question marks after pretty much all of their names…...

tossy

Pigeon holing things is bad for your health,there is good hip hop and bad hip hop simple as

conor.hogan.2

tossy wrote: »

Pigeon holing things is bad for your health,there is good hip hop and bad hip hop simple as

I am not pigeon holing, the op asked for "alternative" hip-hop and I gave a very long list and had a lot of questionable people on it so as to show what exactly is "alt" hip-hop as it is as hard to categorize as back-back etc

tossy

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I am not pigeon holing, the op asked for "alternative" hip-hop and I gave a very long list and had a lot of questionable people on it so as to show what exactly is "alt" hip-hop as it is as hard to categorize as back-back etc

I'd still love a definition of what alternative hip hop is as most of them acts are just hip hop to me.

Raekwon

Alternative Hip Hop artists/groups usually take other musical elements from different genres and fuse it together with Hip Hop.

Good examples of this would be:

Any early Rick Rubin produced/Def Jam stuff: Run DMC, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J
Dan The Automator (Handsome Boy Modelling School, Gorillaz, Deltron 3030, Dr Octagon)
The Gravediggaz, Insane Clown Posse, The Flatlinerz (Horrorcore)
Guru's Jazzmatazz series
El-P & most Def Jux artists
Digable Planets
Stetsasonic
Native Tongues
Bodycount (Ice-T)
Arrested Development
De La Soul
Atmosphere
Jay Electronica
Andre 3000
MF DOOM

tossy

Raekwon wrote: »

Alternative Hip Hop artists/groups usually take other musical elements from different genres and fuse it together with Hip Hop.

You are just describing hip hop

Raekwon

Hip Hop is very experimental by nature but I've listed acts that go out of their way to be experimentally and cross over into other genres and break new ground.

You can't say the likes of Jazzmatazz was straight-up Hip Hop, it's not like Guru hired a producer with a jazzy production style and it was coincidental. He went out of his way to be experimental (or alternative) and became a pioneer in the process.

Bobby Baccala

tossy wrote: »

You are just describing hip hop

You're just being ignorant, hip hop doesn't just fall into two sub categories, "Good hip hop" and "bad hip hop"

What's the point in posting if you have nothing intelligent to contribute to the thread?

tossy

Raekwon wrote: »

You can't say the likes of Jazzmatazz was straight-up Hip Hop, it's not like Guru hired a producer with a jazzy production style and it was coincidental. He went out of his way to be experimental (or alternative) and became a pioneer in the process.

I never said Jazzmatazz was straight up hip hop.

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

You're just being ignorant, hip hop doesn't just fall into two sub categories, "Good hip hop" and "bad hip hop"

What's the point in posting if you have nothing intelligent to contribute to the thread?

I've been into hip hop for nearly 30 years,i've DJ'ed it,produced it,loved it and hated it i've more records than i can count.i used to try pigeon hole things and categorise the music into east,west,uk etc but finally i learnt there is simply only good hip hop and bad hip hop.That's my opinion i don't expect you to share it or agree with it lol

Bobby Baccala

tossy wrote: »

I never said Jazzmatazz was straight up hip hop.


I've been into hip hop for nearly 30 years,i've DJ'ed it,produced it,loved it and hated it i've more records than i can count.i used to try pigeon hole things and categorise the music into east,west,uk etc but finally i learnt there is simply only good hip hop and bad hip hop.That's my opinion i don't expect you to share it or agree with it lol

If that's your opinion then why ask if the thread is a joke? It's universally acknowledged that there's sub categories of hip hop, you can't expect other peoples threads to adhere to your opinions.

tossy

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

If that's your opinion then why ask if the thread is a joke? It's universally acknowledged that there's sub categories of hip hop, you can't expect other peoples threads to adhere to your opinions.

I don't expect that at all.Doesn't stop me giving my opinion on other peoples threads

baddebt

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

• Tonedeff (all of QN5 but specifically Tonedeff)
• Sage Francis (I dunno, I suppose he belongs here?)
• KRS-One (does he belong here?)
• Canibus (belongs?)
• Jurassic 5
• Jedi Mind Tricks
• Immortal Technique (belongs?)
• Outkast
• Gym Class Heroes
• De La Soul
• Fort Minor
• Rage Against The Machine
• Scroobius Pip ( of him and dan la sac fame)
• Messiah J (of Messiah J and The Expert fame)
• Blackstar/Talib/Mos/yasiin
• ATCQ
• Hopsin
• Cee-Lo
• Beasties
• Ganstarr
• Fugees
• MC Solaar (French)
• OG Hindu Kush (Canadian)
• Sahtyre (Cali)
• Jin
• Lupe?

This list is only vaguely in descending order. WTC and PE would rank high if they counted.

How about the Roots , fu Snickens,

conor.hogan.2

baddebt wrote: »

How about the Roots , fu Snickens,

I am not a huge fan of the roots, but yes they deserve a mention.

Never heard of fu Snickens.

baddebt

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I am not a huge fan of the roots, but yes they deserve a mention.

Never heard of fu Snickens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBip4ZU0zPA

baddebt

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