Drogheda - The Biggest Town in Ireland

JupiterKid

Analysis of the results of Census 2011 reveal that Drogheda had a population of 38,578 last year making it the largest town in Ireland. Its rival Dundalk comes very close behind at 37,816.

Drogheda and Dundalk hold onto their positions as the largest towns in Ireland and this makes Louth one of the most urbanised counties in Ireland outside of the cities, with 64.4% of its population residing
in a settlement of a population of 1,500 of greater. The location of County Louth along the Dublin to Belfast economic corridor and the M1 motorway and Dublin -Belfast rail line has undoubtedly contributed to the population growth of County Louth and its major towns.

See link below:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0426/breaking48.html

southlouth type

Interesting stuff . When you add in Laytown , Bettystown and Mornington you get another 10 ,889 putting the population of Drogheda and its hinterland upward towards 50 ,000 :eek:

JupiterKid

southlouth type wrote: »

Interesting stuff . When you add in Laytown , Bettystown and Mornington you get another 10 ,889 putting the population of Drogheda and its hinterland upward towards 50 ,000 :eek:

Well, the 38,578 figure is a composite of all the DEDs containing the continuous built-up area of Drogheda, including the parts in County Meath. If you add in the Laytown-Bettystown-Mornington area you do get a figure of 50,000 - which is the same as the population of Waterford, currently the smallest city.

Hmmm.....

Lord TSC

And yet we still dont have a decent ****ing cinema....

Mylow

Population of Grange Rath/Bettystown/Laytown bigger than Monagahan Town!!!

kormak

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

And yet we still dont have a decent ****ing cinema....

Ditto + I'm gonna stick my neck out and say we some god awful pubs also...
In comparison to some smaller towns in Ireland that I know quite well!!

Rossin

well there's a few rough ones in there alright ,ive had friends from all over come visit and the general consensus from them is that there's a crackin' pub scene,I guess its different when youve been staring at the same pubs for so many years!

MugMugs

southlouth type wrote: »

Interesting stuff . When you add in Laytown , Bettystown and Mornington you get another 10 ,889 putting the population of Drogheda and its hinterland upward towards 50 ,000 :eek:

Sure throw in Ballbriggan and Navan while you're at it!

Mylow

MugMugs wrote: »

Sure throw in Balbriggan and Navan while you're at it!

The fact Mornington/Laytown/Bettystown are covered by local Drogheda bus service, use 041 98 telephone number range kind of says they fall within the Drogheda area, much as people in East Meath may not like it, thats the reality.

Nesta99

Mylow wrote: »

The fact Mornington/Laytown/Bettystown are covered by local Drogheda bus service, use 041 98 telephone number range kind of says they fall within the Drogheda area, much as people in East Meath may not like it, thats the reality.

By that logic sure Carrickmacross is merely a suburb of Dundalk so! Welcome to our town Monaghan people:D

event

Nesta99 wrote: »

By that logic sure Carrickmacross is merely a suburb of Dundalk so! Welcome to our town Monaghan people:D

and add in knockbridge, louth village, dromiskin...

CMpunked

I really despise the whole rivalry talk when it comes to drogheda and dundalk. We have both massive strengths and should be celebrated.
Being numbers 1 and 2 for biggest population is a good place to start.
Well done to both.

southlouth type

Nesta99 wrote: »

By that logic sure Carrickmacross is merely a suburb of Dundalk so! Welcome to our town Monaghan people:D

Talking bollocks there Nesta . Small town syndrome coming from our Dundalk neighbors . These areas are all suburbs of Drogheda wether you like it or not . The people from these areas shop in Drogheda , go to school in Drogheda , socialise in Drogheda etc etc etc and have always looked towards Drogheda as there town .

indiewindy

southlouth type wrote: »

Talking bollocks there Nesta . Small town syndrome coming from our Dundalk neighbors . These areas are all suburbs of Drogheda wether you like it or not . The people from these areas shop in Drogheda , go to school in Drogheda , socialise in Drogheda etc etc etc and have always looked towards Drogheda as there town .

Carlingford and Blackrock along with Newry are served by local bus services in Dundalk, so going by your logic Dundalk can add them to its population;)

Nesta99

southlouth type wrote: »

Talking bollocks there Nesta . Small town syndrome coming from our Dundalk neighbors . These areas are all suburbs of Drogheda wether you like it or not . The people from these areas shop in Drogheda , go to school in Drogheda , socialise in Drogheda etc etc etc and have always looked towards Drogheda as there town .

Ah here, i think this grasping at any area surrounding either town to add a few hundred people to a population is talking bollocks!! By the logic given above on bus services and area codes I am now sarcasticly laying claim to Carrick! A town by the way where many of their folk shop in Dundalk , go to school in Dundalk , socialise in Dundalk etc etc etc and have always looked towards Dundalk as there their town...sure listen to their accent hey! You have Meath people well we shall have the Mons:rolleyes:

I dont see the obsession here - we are villages in UK and European standards. If its a drive to city status well good luck with that one hehehe!

ArtSmart

JupiterKid wrote: »

Analysis of the results of Census 2011 reveal that Drogheda had a population of 38,578 last year making it the largest town in Ireland. Its rival Dundalk comes very close behind at 37,816.

Drogheda and Dundalk hold onto their positions as the largest towns in Ireland and this makes Louth one of the most urbanised counties in Ireland outside of the cities, with 64.4% of its population residing
in a settlement of a population of 1,500 of greater. The location of County Louth along the Dublin to Belfast economic corridor and the M1 motorway and Dublin -Belfast rail line has undoubtedly contributed to the population growth of County Louth and its major towns.

See link below:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0426/breaking48.html

*snip*

Nesta99

ArtSmart wrote: »

Sorry, did you say town or kip?

Now dont start!! Dont think i could take another 'we are bigger/better/less smelly/nicer/prettier/ blah blah thread again.........

At least let it be we are 'less worse than you' style thread

PinkFly

Did I see something in the drogheda indo about pushing towards a city status??

As for the Dundalk folk. haters gonna be hatin'

Nesta99

PinkFly wrote: »

Did I see something in the drogheda indo about pushing towards a city status??

Mwahhaaahahahahahahaha Yahahahahahahahaha

Lets just say that the town that tops the population list is not necessarily the next in line for city status!

Im not suggesting it would be Dundalk either by the time appropriate legislation is ammended but there is a but:p Its a long way off now that economic meltdown shelved plans.

10green bottles

ArtSmart wrote: »

Sorry, did you say town or kip?

PinkFly wrote: »

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As for the Dundalk folk. haters gonna be hatin'

^^^
..And posters wonder why these kind of threads are always locked by the mods? :rolleyes:

I have lived and worked in both(Drogheda & Dundalk) and there is SFA difference between the two towns.In fact the only difference i have ever noticted was that Dundalk businesses would close down earlier on a Christmas eve whereas pubs and restaurants etc.. in Drogheda would remain open for a few hours later.
Real simple sort of stuff and no more of a difference than that.(imo)

Lionel Messy

Are louth people proud now? God love the rest of us :-)

southlouth type

Nesta99 wrote: »

Ah here, i think this grasping at any area surrounding either town to add a few hundred people to a population is talking bollocks!! By the logic given above on bus services and area codes I am now sarcasticly laying claim to Carrick! A town by the way where many of their folk shop in Dundalk , go to school in Dundalk , socialise in Dundalk etc etc etc and have always looked towards Dundalk as there their town...sure listen to their accent hey! You have Meath people well we shall have the Mons:rolleyes:

I dont see the obsession here - we are villages in UK and European standards. If its a drive to city status well good luck with that one hehehe!

Lay claim to anything you like my friend . I am not turning this thread into a petty little town argument , i made a observation that if you include the populations of the areas that are currently directly connected to Drogheda that it pushes the population of the area up hugely and lots of dundalk posters get all defensive about it :eek:

Nesta99

southlouth type wrote: »

Lay claim to anything you like my friend . I am not turning this thread into a petty little town argument , i made a observation that if you include the populations of the areas that are currently directly connected to Drogheda that it pushes the population of the area up hugely and lots of dundalk posters get all defensive about it :eek:

Oh dear! I was being sarcastic and i pointed it out - i am not laying claim to anywhere and i dont see the point. You are mistaken indifference for defensiveness. See my post above re not dragging the thread in to the old rubbish talk. Im sure Lucan/ Tallaght are included in Dublin's poulation so work away!

ongarboy

There's actually a technical definition when accounting for population of cities and towns. You have the population within the official city or town boundary limits but the overall population also includes continuous built up urban area outside those boundary limits (known as environs). Definition of environs are below. This explains why parts of Meath are included in the Drogheda population as there is continuous built up area from Drogheda right into County Meath. Likewise, that is why Lucan/Tallaght/Blanchardstown are included in Dublin's population but not Swords (there are green fields/large tracts of uninhabited area between Swords and Dublin but not with the other suburbs listed above). Hope this explains why Drogheda is bigger than Dundalk then!

CSO.ie definition

Suburbs/environs are defined, in conformity with United Nations recommendations, as the continuation
of a distinct population cluster outside its legally defined boundary in which no occupied dwelling is more
than 200 metres distant from the nearest occupied dwelling. New suburbs or environs are defined only
where there are at least twenty occupied dwellings outside the legal boundary within the new limit. In
applying the 200-metre criterion, industrial, commercial and recreational buildings and facilities are not

regarded as breaking the continuity of a built-up area.

locum-motion

ongarboy wrote: »

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CSO.ie definition

Suburbs/environs are defined, in conformity with United Nations recommendations, as the continuation
of a distinct population cluster outside its legally defined boundary in which no occupied dwelling is more
than 200 metres distant from the nearest occupied dwelling. New suburbs or environs are defined only
where there are at least twenty occupied dwellings outside the legal boundary within the new limit. In
applying the 200-metre criterion, industrial, commercial and recreational buildings and facilities are not

regarded as breaking the continuity of a built-up area.

At a rough guess, I'd say there probably is at least one dwelling every 200m on the Blackrock Road out of Dundalk.
Does that mean Blackrock is included in Dundalk's population?

kormak

Drogheda is a city anyhow...
well according to the Brits from the 1600's anyway!!

furiousox

A city with no industry.....

Darksaga87

Dundalk always felt bigger to me when I drive around it. Maybe people from dundalk would say the same about drogheda.

TBH, you can walk from one side of town to the other in about an hour.

doncarlos

locum-motion wrote: »

At a rough guess, I'd say there probably is at least one dwelling every 200m on the Blackrock Road out of Dundalk.
Does that mean Blackrock is included in Dundalk's population?

It probably should be. It's a suburb of Dundalk

locum-motion

doncarlos wrote: »

It probably should be. It's a suburb of Dundalk

Yeah, I agree with that, but I was asking about whether it fits in with the very specific definition that the other poster mentioned.

Nesta99

locum-motion wrote: »

Yeah, I agree with that, but I was asking about whether it fits in with the very specific definition that the other poster mentioned.

It is not included in the Dundalk Urban population! It is included in Dundalk rural/enviorns. The reason being that it is adminsitered under LCC rather than DTC.