Tennessee Titans Thread

Dohnny Jepp

Julien Proud Mosquito wrote: »

what is it warmack levetre and ....schewnke? has levetre lived up to that contract

I think so, I thought he was very good. Warmack was maybe not as good as expected with a top 10 selection being spent on an interior lineman, but was still very good. Yeah Schewnke got his chance cause of an injury and he just never let up, he earned the starting spot the hard way.

No point having a great O line if we have no QB or RB to take advantage of it, which is where we stand right now.

helimachoptor

Not the pick I though, was Barr still available, stupid holidays in the way of draft!

helimachoptor

Not the pick I though, was Barr still available, stupid holidays in the way of draft!

Dohnny Jepp

helimachoptor wrote: »

Not the pick I though, was Barr still available, stupid holidays in the way of draft!

Barr and Gilbert were gone. Two years in a row we go olibe, not too exciting

helimachoptor

Qb or rb next I think

Dohnny Jepp

If Carr is not available I think we need to trade back and pick up a third. This is the kind of draft were u really want to be stacked with mid round picks. Drop back to later in the second and take Hill, use the acquired third pick on best pass rusher or corner available. Pick up logan Thomas in the 4th.

Lewan is a good pick for where we git him, would have liked for Barr to be available though

Heffo001

The more I have time to think about the Lewan pick the more I get annoyed by it. The way the board fell I though we were in a great position to trade back, which I had hoped they would do from the start. To not only stick, but to go O-Line for the second year in a row isn't something that is going to particularly excite people, although I can kind of understand the reasoning.

But for that O-Line man to:

1) Have off the field concerns
2) Be someone who might not start for a year
3) And worst of all he's a University of Michigan player who I've hated for the last few years :pac:

The upside is that he seems to be good value at 11. So while I'm pissed that my preferred 1st round scenarios didn't work out, that will pass as the season gets closer and hopefully he'll end up being a stud LT for years to come.

Dohnny Jepp

Heffo001 wrote: »

The more I have time to think about the Lewan pick the more I get annoyed by it. The way the board fell I though we were in a great position to trade back, which I had hoped they would do from the start. To not only stick, but to go O-Line for the second year in a row isn't something that is going to particularly excite people, although I can kind of understand the reasoning.

But for that O-Line man to:

1) Have off the field concerns
2) Be someone who might not start for a year
3) And worst of all he's a University of Michigan player who I've hated for the last few years :pac:

The upside is that he seems to be good value at 11. So while I'm pissed that my preferred 1st round scenarios didn't work out, that will pass as the season gets closer and hopefully he'll end up being a stud LT for years to come.

I know how you feel, I was really hoping we could trade back and pick up at least a third. It now leaves us in a position that we strongly have to consider trading back with our second round pick because a third in this draft will get you a legit prospect.

If I could have had my way, trade back to the very back of the first, grab Roby in the late twenties, surely trading back ~15 picks, would have gotten us a third and fourth or even a second. Make a small move for Carr in the second, take best HB available in the third and then attack needs with late round picks.

OR

Drop back in the first, take Roby, make a move for Ealy in the second round, best available HB in the third and take Logan Thomas in the 4th.

At the same time I'm not disappointed with how it did work out for us but I think it could have went better. We shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking Oher was going to be good enough so Tackle was still an area of need and we probably got the best player available with that pick and it ticked off a need.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

If Carr is not available I think we need to trade back and pick up a third. This is the kind of draft were u really want to be stacked with mid round picks. Drop back to later in the second and take Hill, use the acquired third pick on best pass rusher or corner available. Pick up logan Thomas in the 4th.

Lewan is a good pick for where we git him, would have liked for Barr to be available though

I wouldn't be against those picks, but what are the chances of Webster going Hill (another player with character issues) in the second after taking Lewan in the first.

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I know how you feel, I was really hoping we could trade back and pick up at least a third. It now leaves us in a position that we strongly have to consider trading back with our second round pick because a third in this draft will get you a legit prospect.

If I could have had my way, trade back to the very back of the first, grab Roby in the late twenties, surely trading back ~15 picks, would have gotten us a third and fourth or even a second. Make a small move for Carr in the second, take best HB available in the third and then attack needs with late round picks.

OR

Drop back in the first, take Roby, make a move for Ealy in the second round, best available HB in the third and take Logan Thomas in the 4th.

At the same time I'm not disappointed with how it did work out for us but I think it could have went better. We shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking Oher was going to be good enough so Tackle was still an area of need and we probably got the best player available with that pick and it ticked off a need.

Bridgewater was the apple of my eye to be honest. Trading back to the Browns spot, which it seems almost happened, would have surely given us a couple of extra picks and we could still have been in position to draft Teddy.

I agree the pick made sense and like I said, when the dust clears and I get over the disappointment of hearing his name called last night, he may well turn out to be a very good pick.

I don't know how I'd like the rest of the draft to fall. We still need a RB and I'd like to take to developmental QB. Logan Thomas would be interesting because he could be great if developed right, but is also athletic enough for a position change if he doesn't work out at QB. I'd also like some pieces for the move to the 3-4 as well though. As a Notre Dame fan I'd love Tuitt or Nix and think they'd be great value anywhere on the second day. Attaochu and Lawrence are two interesting Pass rushers left on the board as well.

helimachoptor

Seems the browns pulled out on a trade for our 1st rounder , Shame

mikemac1

Michael Oher signed to 4 years 20 million and he'll spend 2014 on the bench?

Oh dear. Good depth I suppose

helimachoptor

Yeah seems odd mike, I think it's obvious that the first 10 picks didnt go as planned and the titans went bpa after the supposed trade with the browns fell through.

There seems to be a view that they will trade roos, I would not like that at all

Dohnny Jepp

I hope we can trade back and pick up a third, I know I keep on saying it but it would make my night if it happens.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I hope we can trade back and pick up a third, I know I keep on saying it but it would make my night if it happens.

I'm the same. Unless there's a defensive player they are really high on I hope they really try to trade back. I think there's too much depth at RB to take one at this stage imo and I'm not sure I'd take any QB other than Carr who I reckon will be gone.

Dohnny Jepp

Heffo001 wrote: »

I'm the same. Unless there's a defensive player they are really high on I hope they really try to trade back. I think there's too much depth at RB to take one at this stage imo and I'm not sure I'd take any QB other than Carr who I reckon will be gone.

Yessss we're trading back!!!!!!!!!!!!


Logan thomas in the 4th and I'll be delighted!!!!!!

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

Yessss we're trading back!!!!!!!!!!!!


Logan thomas in the 4th and I'll be delighted!!!!!!

Wait to see what we get first. Probably compiling picks for next year :pac:

Dohnny Jepp

only a 4th.................... **** trade :mad:

Heffo001

4th rounder. Not the 3rd I'd hoped for, gives us ammo to move into the 3rd if there's someone the staff really like though. I'm thinking RB or QB. Personally I'd love Tuitt or Nix if they were still there.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

only a 4th.................... **** trade :mad:

Position was possibly weakened due to the other trades that had just happened. Less trading partners. Rams only got a 5th to move back 4 or 5 places.

Dohnny Jepp

Heffo001 wrote: »

Position was possibly weakened due to the other trades that had just happened. Less trading partners. Rams only got a 5th to move back 4 or 5 places.

12 places is a lot to drop back to only gain a 4th.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

12 places is a lot to drop back to only gain a 4th.

It's not fantastic, but I'd prefer the trade and the extra pick than staying at 40 and picking someone. I think if they're targeting QB or RB they might still have their pick of the players currently available.

Dohnny Jepp

we needed running back but I would have preferred a different HB, I suppose have to trust whiz here.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

we needed running back but I would have preferred a different HB, I suppose have to trust whiz here.

Who would you have gone for? I liked Storm Johnson in the 4th or 5th, has ball security issues though. I think Sankey could be a good compliment to Green and Battle.

Dohnny Jepp

Heffo001 wrote: »

Who would you have gone for? I liked Storm Johnson in the 4th or 5th, has ball security issues though. I think Sankey could be a good compliment to Green and Battle.

Hill or Hyde!

Dohnny Jepp

or if u want the scat back go for archer.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

Hill or Hyde!

I would've like Hill. But like I said earlier, with Webster being someone who steers away from guys with questionable character I didn't see it happening.

I not completely sold on Hyde, probably just my dislike of Ohio State though.

helimachoptor

Don't know much about this guy but will take a look at his tape..

Thought we might have got a better pick but agree all of the trading left us in a weakened position

Dohnny Jepp

I think we've had a solid draft considering our lack of picks but, I don't think we are a better team than last year.

HigginsJ

helimachoptor wrote: »

Don't know much about this guy but will take a look at his tape..

Thought we might have got a better pick but agree all of the trading left us in a weakened position

Sankey is superb, best RB this year. He has all round ability as a runner, protector, pass catcher. No reason why he can't be really helpful to Locker

Heffo001

HigginsJ wrote: »

Sankey is superb, best RB this year. He has all round ability as a runner, protector, pass catcher. No reason why he can't be really helpful to Locker

Agree with that after watching him this morning. I watched a load of RB tape yesterday thinking that was the direction we might go in. Of course one of the only players I didn't get around to watch was Sankey. After watching about 10 of his games this morning he has the most impressive tape of any of them imo.

Runs tough for his size, good vision, good receiving ability and cuts really, really well.

Dohnny Jepp

I think we got the worst of the 'draftable' qbs. I don't hate the dt and ilb we took which is something I suppose. Should have taken logan....

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I think we got the worst of the 'draftable' qbs. I don't hate the dt and ilb we took which is something I suppose. Should have taken logan....

I don't mind Mettenberger, I'm happy enough taking him there. I didn't really have a preference between Savage, Mettenberger or Thomas who I think are all physically gifted QBs but need quite a bit of work. Then you've got a McCarron or Murray who I think could be good back-ups or stop-gaps but probably don't have the upside of the previous three.

I really like the Jones pick-up, don't know any of the other guys so I have no opinion on them at the moment.

HigginsJ

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

I think we got the worst of the 'draftable' qbs. I don't hate the dt and ilb we took which is something I suppose. Should have taken logan....

Heffo001 wrote: »

I don't mind Mettenberger, I'm happy enough taking him there. I didn't really have a preference between Savage, Mettenberger or Thomas who I think are all physically gifted QBs but need quite a bit of work. Then you've got a McCarron or Murray who I think could be good back-ups or stop-gaps but probably don't have the upside of the previous three.

I really like the Jones pick-up, don't know any of the other guys so I have no opinion on them at the moment.

If it had not been for the failed drugs test at the combine Mettenberger would probably have gone in the 2nd round so it's good value. He is also a bit more polished than Logan Thomas & the upside with both is pretty similar.

Dohnny Jepp

HigginsJ wrote: »

If it had not been for the failed drugs test at the combine Mettenberger would probably have gone in the 2nd round so it's good value. He is also a bit more polished than Logan Thomas & the upside with both is pretty similar.

And mettenberg had 2 serious injuries. Back and acl.

Gonna give my thoughts on the titans draft and each individual pick when I get on my pc.

Dohnny Jepp

1.11 (11) Taylor Lewan, OT:

In isolation I really like this pick, We got the 3rd best OT quite a bit lower than he was expected to be taken.
I understand that the Titans thought they had a trade partner with the browns to drop back to 22 where they intended to take Carr. I think that would have been a better outcome but even though it didn't work out I'm happy they tried, it gives me confidence the front office were approaching the draft in the right way and taking Lewan was the back up plan.
However, I worry now that we are going to have too much money tied up in our Offensive Line. That being said considering we couldn't trade out of 11, I think other than Mosley, there was no one else I was comfortable taking at 11 considering the premier pass rushers had already been taken and although a deep class at CB, I don't think any including Gilbert are worth the 11th pick.


2.22 (54) Bishop Sankey, HB

When this pick initially happened I was far to reactionary in claiming my distaste. I was annoyed about the terrible value we got in trading back and didn't look at this pick clearly enough. Contrary to what I said earlier, we took the most suitable HB for us. Now I still don't believe like some that he is the best HB in this draft, but I do think considering who we already have on our roster, and considering Whiz is going to want a HB that can block and catch, Sankey is the right choice with this pick.
With Carr off the board the Titans were right to trade back and take whatever they could get. Sankey is very good pick, he is going to be a 3 down back, will be great on screens and catching out of the backfield. He plays tough and will be a threat both between the tackles and to the outside. I really do like this pick.


4.12 (112) Da'Quan Jones, DT

This very well might be our best pick in the draft. We got second round talent in the 4th round. Now I don't know why he dropped so far, but I'm happy he did.
From what I hear, we will be playing both 3-4 and 4-3, Jones can play in both schemes which gives us flexibility with whatever scheme we want to play at any given time. Jones and Casey together is a very exciting prospect!


4.22 (122) Marqueston Huff, DB

This is not a particularly good pick, he won't start but he'll be a good back up to both our safeties and corners. Can play numerous positions, better at corner but a good safety all the same. Technically not great but makes up for it with his physicality and speed.
This is the pick that should have been used with our 7th to move up and take Logan, for that I'm disappointed with how this pick turned out.


5.11 (151) Avery Williamson, ILB

This is a position of need for us that I was hoping would have been addressed much earlier. Williamson is a 5th round talent, so there is a reason he was taken now and not before. He is very poor in coverage, has no versatility, he can not play the outside, and is not good enough to play ILB in a 4-3. Now, with that being said, he is a very very good tackler and will excel with the run-stopping roll as 3-4 ILB. He may be a one trick pony but that trick is very good! He is also a good leader, great football intelligence and is capable of calling the adjustments for the titans if he gets on the field.


6.2 (178) Zach Mettenberger, QB

I wish he was as good a QB as he was at sexually assaulting young women.

I don't like this pick, but it's a 6th rounder so if he fails, which he will, it doesn't matter.

Mettenberger is a better QB than Logan, but with less upside. His arm isn't as good but he is a more polished QB in other areas.
I suppose it's not his talent, that puts me off Mettenberger, he has got a lot of talent, but he's a low character guy, not the first player to be drafted who's been convicted of a crime, but "sexual battery" is a quite a bit worse than drugs or fighting in my opinion. On top of that, he has had two serious injuries in college, so his health is also in question.
With all that being said, if I was to ignore everything else, and just look at talent this would be a good pick. He has a good arm, can make all the throws but has a slow release and his footwork is not great.


I think we've had a good draft, I think it makes us a slightly better team, but we have lost a lot of cornerstone players in FA, so it was always going to be hard to improve.

I think we've found starters in the late rounds and added some depth.

Sankey, and whoever start's at QB have no excuses. we should have a phenomenal Offensive line that should be making lanes for Sankey and giving our QB a lot of time in the pocket.

I think we've had a B- draft.

Heffo001

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

1.11 (11) Taylor Lewan, OT:

In isolation I really like this pick, We got the 3rd best OT quite a bit lower than he was expected to be taken.
I understand that the Titans thought they had a trade partner with the browns to drop back to 22 where they intended to take Carr. I think that would have been a better outcome but even though it didn't work out I'm happy they tried, it gives me confidence the front office were approaching the draft in the right way and taking Lewan was the back up plan.
However, I worry now that we are going to have too much money tied up in our Offensive Line. That being said considering we couldn't trade out of 11, I think other than Mosley, there was no one else I was comfortable taking at 11 considering the premier pass rushers had already been taken and although a deep class at CB, I don't think any including Gilbert are worth the 11th pick.


2.22 (54) Bishop Sankey, HB

When this pick initially happened I was far to reactionary in claiming my distaste. I was annoyed about the terrible value we got in trading back and didn't look at this pick clearly enough. Contrary to what I said earlier, we took the most suitable HB for us. Now I still don't believe like some that he is the best HB in this draft, but I do think considering who we already have on our roster, and considering Whiz is going to want a HB that can block and catch, Sankey is the right choice with this pick.
With Carr off the board the Titans were right to trade back and take whatever they could get. Sankey is very good pick, he is going to be a 3 down back, will be great on screens and catching out of the backfield. He plays tough and will be a threat both between the tackles and to the outside. I really do like this pick.


4.12 (112) Da'Quan Jones, DT

This very well might be our best pick in the draft. We got second round talent in the 4th round. Now I don't know why he dropped so far, but I'm happy he did.
From what I hear, we will be playing both 3-4 and 4-3, Jones can play in both schemes which gives us flexibility with whatever scheme we want to play at any given time. Jones and Casey together is a very exciting prospect!


4.22 (122) Marqueston Huff, DB

This is not a particularly good pick, he won't start but he'll be a good back up to both our safeties and corners. Can play numerous positions, better at corner but a good safety all the same. Technically not great but makes up for it with his physicality and speed.
This is the pick that should have been used with our 7th to move up and take Logan, for that I'm disappointed with how this pick turned out.


5.11 (151) Avery Williamson, ILB

This is a position of need for us that I was hoping would have been addressed much earlier. Williamson is a 5th round talent, so there is a reason he was taken now and not before. He is very poor in coverage, has no versatility, he can not play the outside, and is not good enough to play ILB in a 4-3. Now, with that being said, he is a very very good tackler and will excel with the run-stopping roll as 3-4 ILB. He may be a one trick pony but that trick is very good! He is also a good leader, great football intelligence and is capable of calling the adjustments for the titans if he gets on the field.


6.2 (178) Zach Mettenberger, QB

I wish he was as good a QB as he was at sexually assaulting young women.

I don't like this pick, but it's a 6th rounder so if he fails, which he will, it doesn't matter.

Mettenberger is a better QB than Logan, but with less upside. His arm isn't as good but he is a more polished QB in other areas.
I suppose it's not his talent, that puts me off Mettenberger, he has got a lot of talent, but he's a low character guy, not the first player to be drafted who's been convicted of a crime, but "sexual battery" is a quite a bit worse than drugs or fighting in my opinion. On top of that, he has had two serious injuries in college, so his health is also in question.
With all that being said, if I was to ignore everything else, and just look at talent this would be a good pick. He has a good arm, can make all the throws but has a slow release and his footwork is not great.


I think we've had a good draft, I think it makes us a slightly better team, but we have lost a lot of cornerstone players in FA, so it was always going to be hard to improve.

I think we've found starters in the late rounds and added some depth.

Sankey, and whoever start's at QB have no excuses. we should have a phenomenal Offensive line that should be making lanes for Sankey and giving our QB a lot of time in the pocket.

I think we've had a B- draft.

My opinion on each pick is similar enough, although I think I'm a bit happier with Mettenberger than you. I understand the concerns in regards to the Sexual Battery, but while getting ridiculously drunk and feeling up a girl in a bar was an incredibly stupid thing to do, he was 18 or 19 at the time so hopefully he's learnt from it.

I have a really good feeling about Sankey and Jones. I wasn't particularly impressed by Huff or Williamson from what I saw of them, but we've done very well in the recent past taking CB's late on, so hopefully Huff can continue that tradition.

I think we did ok with UDFAs as well. I found tape for a few of them and Josh Stewart from Oklahoma State strikes me as someone who suffered because of the WR depth this year. Made some great catches in the games I saw, can make people miss after the catch and returned punts. I think his lack of top-end speed might make it difficult for him to create separation in the NFL, but he could be a good back-up for Wright.

Gabe Ikard the centre is someone who I remember playing quite well against Louis Nix and he supposedly played well against Alabama in the bowl game last year as well. I've seen him rated as the 5th or 6th centre a couple of places.

James Gayle from VT had a decent college career and put up good numbers at the combine for his size. Should at least be someone to develop as a Pass rusher.

Dohnny Jepp

Although early days, Kiper gave us a C+ draft. Have to say probably a fair assessment

helimachoptor

Quinn Johnson FB released, not surprising was on a salary only deal as mooney was injured last season and Mooney is the FB they want.

Lewan had his court date pushed back to June sometime, hopefully it doesnt prove much of a distraction during camp.

As Locker is injured Mett has been taking a lot of reps and his arm strength is showing it seems, he has said his knee is a bit sore but nothing too bad..

Dohnny Jepp

It's so frustrating to hate a QB so much and have your team draft him.

helimachoptor

the mett has signed his deal..

helimachoptor

hard to know how often Clowney/Lewan will spar in the games this year but this is a pretty good article

http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/5/26/5751342/the-title-fight-jadeveon-clowney-vs-taylor-lewan-part-i

helimachoptor

Locker looks like he's packed on a lot of muscle, his arms and chest look enormous.
Given he had a foot injury id say he was going pretty hard in the gym over the last while.

He says that he's normally sore for a day or 2 after practice but overall he's feeling pretty good.

Ayers had 2 surgeries on his knee, for minor reasons it seems.

PK is saying it looks like Tommie Campbell is going to see his fair share of action is TC and pre-season because of more man coverage schemes.

It seems Mooney is being pegged as a bit more of a hybrid back and not just a FB and will likely see a few carries, he'll compete with battle for the blocking duties.

I think its possible one of battle/mooney gets cut as we have

Mooney
Battle
McCluster
Greene
Sankey

and perhaps Leon Washington in a pinch if he wins the return battle over Mariani.


We have 3 good return men on the roster, I think Mariani sadly is the odd one out unless he can show some benefit @ WR, i think he can aslong his injuries have slowed him down too much


Colin McCarthy has been impressive so far it seems, he has a lot of talent and iirc is our biggest LB so he is well able to lay down the boom when needed but he has to be healthy, he's out of contract this year so needs a solid season to get a contract anywhere

I think we'll likely pick up a WR from cuts aswell

helimachoptor

wow 6 weeks since i posted about the Titans, must be a record :pac:

Not much happening..
Sankey is signed, Lewan is not.

It will be done before TC i have no doubt.

Locker seems to be progressing well, reports on the WRs seem to be ok aswell.

Sankey seems to be impressing but Greene apparently is still carrying his injury.

Battle has been tried at FB but would prefer Mooney, he's a savage blocker.

Dohnny Jepp

Mettenberger got sucker punched in a bar, it made my day when I read it!

helimachoptor

You do realise he's now our player!?

Yep by some bama fans who then ran like pussies!

Dohnny Jepp

helimachoptor wrote: »

You do realise he's now our player!?

Yep by some bama fans who then ran like pussies!

I do and I hate that he is more than I can put into words.

helimachoptor

I think he'll start 2 games this season.. Betting you won't watch those!

Dohnny Jepp

helimachoptor wrote: »

I think he'll start 2 games this season.. Betting you won't watch those!

I'll watch them! And I hope he throws for 0/2 and that Sankey runs for 300 yards and 4 td's!

helimachoptor

Lewan signs, levitre got his appendix out so is missing 2 weeks of pre season

Dohnny Jepp

helimachoptor wrote: »

Lewan signs, levitre got his appendix out so is missing 2 weeks of pre season

I like Levitre so I'm glad it's only 2 weeks. Hear any numbers in regard to Lewan?