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Tennessee Titans Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    I'd be vey happy as a Titans fan with the off-season. Warmack and Hunter are 2 day 1 starters & along with Levitre from free agency it gives Locker every chance to succeed.

    The corner Wreh-Wilson is also very talented. Don't know much about the LB ye picked up.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Right.. I was pretty wasted last night, in the taxi home I read we took a WR. I went to bed but it appears it's true! What did we give up for the move up in picks?


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Right.. I was pretty wasted last night, in the taxi home I read we took a WR. I went to bed but it appears it's true! What did we give up for the move up in picks?

    A 2nd this year, 7th this year and a 3rd next year. Wasn't mad about giving that up when we had other players on the board who were in a position of greater need and would have fallen to 40. At the same time I like Hunter as a prospect and think he could be really good for us, interesting to see what happens with Nate now.

    Webster said Hunter was on a different level to anyone they had left on their board. They made some enquiries on Thursday night about moving back into the end of the 1st to take him.

    Wonder if they'll consider adding his former QB Bray as a developmental QB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    A 2nd this year, 7th this year and a 3rd next year. Wasn't mad about giving that up when we had other players on the board who were in a position of greater need and would have fallen to 40. At the same time I like Hunter as a prospect and think he could be really good for us, interesting to see what happens with Nate now.

    Webster said Hunter was on a different level to anyone they had left on their board. They made some enquiries on Thursday night about moving back into the end of the 1st to take him.

    Wonder if they'll consider adding his former QB Bray as a developmental QB.

    I've been saying that for awhile on boards, i think bray has the potential to be the best QB in this draft class. He has top arm talent but lacks maturity. I hope we take him if he can be got with a 5th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    I've been saying that for awhile on boards, i think bray has the potential to be the best QB in this draft class. He has top arm talent but lacks maturity. I hope we take him if he can be got with a 5th.

    Ya I like Bray's potential. I think I'd like a bit of a gunslinger as a backup QB considering the WR talent we have on the roster now. If not Bray then Tyler Wilson could be another option. Maybe Matt Scott if they want a QB more similar to Locker.

    Still can't believe only 3 QBs are gone in the first 3 rounds. Could end up really bennefiting the Titans as I didn't want them to spend a pick from the first 3 rounds on a developmental QB. But as it turns out almost all the QBs are still available on day 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Hoping we add to the pass rush with one of the next two picks. Okafor, Quanterus Smith are two prospects with good production that could be considered while there are a number of propects like Devin Taylor, William Gholston and Michael Buchanan who might lack some production but are good athletes that could be coached up. Really lacking depth behind Morgan and Wimbley so I'd prefer to add someone in the 4th or 5th while these prospects are still available rather than a prospect like Solomon in the 7th as we did last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    So Bray and Da'Rick Rodgers go undrafted. Jim Wyatt says Titans not even interested in getting Bray as a UFA. Character concerns must be much worse than I thought.

    Wyatt says he expects Titans to go after Jordan Rodgers of Vanderbilt though. Wonder if they have any interest in trying to keep Da'Rick Rodgers in state?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    So Bray and Da'Rick Rodgers go undrafted. Jim Wyatt says Titans not even interested in getting Bray as a UFA. Character concerns must be much worse than I thought.

    Wyatt says he expects Titans to go after Jordan Rodgers of Vanderbilt though. Wonder if they have any interest in trying to keep Da'Rick Rodgers in state?

    Im very disheartened about our draft. I honestly think we had one of worst drafts of all teams. Time will tell obviously but other than warmack there isn't one pick I like, not one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Bray signed with the chiefs apparently


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    A solid but not spectacular draft.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 pepperfoot


    i dont give the titans that much credit. colts will be second in the division and will move on the playoff with a wild card V


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    pepperfoot wrote: »
    i dont give the titans that much credit. colts will be second in the division and will move on the playoff with a wild card V

    It is going to be tough.

    The Titans should have one of the best o-lines in the business, which should lead to a much improved running game. Combine that with Hunter it should mean more time for Locker to throw meaning he's more accurate.

    On the D the addition of Pollard (and Williams) should mean our D becomes more intense..

    A lot of shoulds and no guarantees..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    pepperfoot wrote: »
    i dont give the titans that much credit. colts will be second in the division and will move on the playoff with a wild card V

    Personally I think the colts are completely over rated, I tjimk titans are better than colts in every area except for qb. I do fancy the titans to finish second in the division but that's down to a strong free agency and not our weak draft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Thought this was the Bears thread. Oops!


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Im very disheartened about our draft. I honestly think we had one of worst drafts of all teams. Time will tell obviously but other than warmack there isn't one pick I like, not one.

    Really? I'm pretty happy with the draft and the front office have done a great job of picking up good to great players in the middle rounds of the last two drafts. I can understand you dislike the Hunter choice, personally that wouldn't have been my first choice, but I really like Hunter and a lot of teams had a 1st round grade on him. What disappointed you after that?

    Here's how I saw it after the 2nd:

    3rd Round

    Blidi Wreh-Wilson - We needed corner depth and before the draft the coaches talked about looking to get more physical corners who were good at press coverage as Greg Williams wants to install more Blitz packages. I'd heard good things about him leading up to the draft, he comes from a lower profile programme who had a number of DBs drafted so thats probably an indicator of good coaching and he has good measurables. I looked at his tape and was pretty happy with what I saw, isn't a ball hawk but is physical with WRs and breaks up passes with his long arms.

    Zavier Gooden - This pick I'm not completely sold on as there were a number of prospects I liked still available at his stage. However LB depth was a big need going into this draft and he's obviously very athletic but I'm not sure how much of a football player he is. However adding him to Brown gives us probably the most athletic LB corps in the NFL. After last years draft I saw plenty of people who said Brown was just and athlete playing football and was afraid to be physical, however Brown looked like he could become a very god player especially towards the end of last season. Ayers, McCarthy and Brown have all been good picks in the last two draft so hopefully they can develop Goodens raw talent and turn him into one as well.

    4th Round

    Brian Schwenke - Again there are players I would have picked ahead of him as I was happy with Warmack, Leivtre at Guard and one of Velasco or Turner at Centre with the other covering all three positions. However ignoring that he is great value in the 4th imo as lots of people had a late 2nd to early 3rd grade on him. I'm not sure there's much between Schwenke and Frederick who the Cowboys took in the first. Mayock seemed really high on him and I think he'll come in and challenge for the Centre spot day 1. I could only find one game of his and after watching it my only criticism is he was horrible at snapping the ball. However I think he may only have move to centre this season so hopefully that will improve. He could help transform what was one of the worst interior offensive lines in the NFL last year into one of the best.

    5th Round

    Lavar Edwards - I'm pretty optimistic about this pick. Yes he was never a started in college, but that's because he played behind two 1st round talents (I think Montgomery would have gone in the first without his character issues). He still had pretty impressive numbers as a rotational player and comes from a very good programme meaning he should be well coached. We needed to add DE depth and I think he's good value here as a number of draft analysts had as high as a 3rd round grade on him.

    6th Round

    Khalid Wooten - Don't know much about him but he seems to have had decent production in college, albeit against lower competition. I'm going to put my faith in the staff on this one considering Jason McCourty was picked up in the 6th round while Verner was selected in the 4th so they have had some success in drafting good CBs in the later rounds. Also another guy who can play press coverage.

    7th Round

    Daimion Stafford - Like Wooten don't really know anything about him and haven't seen any tape on him. Was voted first team Big Ten by the media and second team by the coaches in 2012. At the end of the day he's 7th round compensatory pick, even if he manages to contribute on special teams great, if not I'm not going to let it affect my opinion on the draft as a whole.

    All in all I think through the Draft and Free Agency I think we've addressed our needs much better than last year. My biggest doubt going into this year is Locker. However the more I think about it, it was only two years ago that Fitzpatrick was given a large contract after starting the season very well, only for his performances to drop significantly. I have faith Locker will manage to at least be decent with the new O-line help and the weapons he has. But if he doesn't work out I think Fitzpatrick will be a good stop gap for a year, in Buffalo he had very limited WR options. The Titans have a lot of potential at the WR position with Wright, Britt and Hunter with solid if unspectacular options in Washington and Williams. Add to that the hope that we'll be much better running the football this year and I think there's reason to be optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    We didn't go BPA or best player for our biggest need. I don't know what system we used in drafting.

    Round 1: Chance Warmack - In my opinion the best player in the draft. Much better run blocker than Cooper and just as good at pass blocking. Fits our team better than any other lineman. With the addition of Warmack we have the best O line in the league (IMO)

    Round 2: Justin Hunter - Gave up way to much to grab a player who I don't believe is an improvement on what we already have. I hope he proves me wrong but to me this is one of the worse picks in the draft. Why I think this, we have glaring needs, especially our pass rush, we could have gotten arguable the best pass rusher in the draft in Carradine by moving up to this spot. We could have got first round talent Corners by moving to this spot in taylor or banks.

    Round 3: Wreh-Wilson - Best corner available at the time of this pick. So it is what it is. Not agile enough to play the slot in my opinion and I worry about his speed on the outside if he gets beaten. However like I said best corner available at the time and he does has potential.

    Round 3: Zavier Gooden - A raiders type selection, selected because of his speed. I can only see a future for him if he can adapt to be a pollard type safety. Like you said yourself, there were numerous more proven players we could have taken at this position with this pick. It wouldn't have taken much to move up from this spot and grab damontre moore even.

    Round 4: Brian Schwenke - I like this guy but its not a position of need. If Velasco is on his way out at the end of the coming season or something like that well then its a good pick. If not I just don't understand us signing our 6th? Olineman this offseason.

    Round 5: Lavar Edwards - Too late to address our biggest area of need. This guy brings depth but he isn't good enough to push for a starting job. Maybe I'm being harsh on Edwards, this would be a good pick if we had already taken a DE with our second pick. As it stands our pass rush is no better than last year and it wasn't good last year.

    Round 6: Khalid Whooten - I'm assuming he was picked as a return man, we'll see how he turns out.

    Round 7: Damien Stafford - We have short term solutions to our safety problems through free agency. Stafford isn't a long term solution, will be surprised if he makes the team. I was hoping for a long term solution this draft, with so much experience on the team at the moment in the safety positions it would be ideal for someone to come in and learn behind them. We didn't do that.

    My thoughts on the draft is that we had some serious area's in need of an upgrade and only our first pick really produced that. We took some good players but they were simply a luxury causing us to miss out on some needs (Hunter and schwenke).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭taidghbaby


    With all the O-line talent ye brought in do any titans fans think ye might bring in some zone read offence? Locker has the athleticism and it could open up some room for CJ! Personally (from the viewpoint of a Colts fan) I'm happy to see Locker sit in the pocket and try to beat ya like a "traditional" QB as I don't think he's accurate enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    taidghbaby wrote: »
    With all the O-line talent ye brought in do any titans fans think ye might bring in some zone read offence? Locker has the athleticism and it could open up some room for CJ! Personally (from the viewpoint of a Colts fan) I'm happy to see Locker sit in the pocket and try to beat ya like a "traditional" QB as I don't think he's accurate enough!

    It is a logical move, when you consider we signed a great blocking tight end in walker as well. I think a read option would be a great move for us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    We didn't go BPA or best player for our biggest need. I don't know what system we used in drafting.

    Round 1: Chance Warmack - In my opinion the best player in the draft. Much better run blocker than Cooper and just as good at pass blocking. Fits our team better than any other lineman. With the addition of Warmack we have the best O line in the league (IMO)

    Round 2: Justin Hunter - Gave up way to much to grab a player who I don't believe is an improvement on what we already have. I hope he proves me wrong but to me this is one of the worse picks in the draft. Why I think this, we have glaring needs, especially our pass rush, we could have gotten arguable the best pass rusher in the draft in Carradine by moving up to this spot. We could have got first round talent Corners by moving to this spot in taylor or banks.

    Round 3: Wreh-Wilson - Best corner available at the time of this pick. So it is what it is. Not agile enough to play the slot in my opinion and I worry about his speed on the outside if he gets beaten. However like I said best corner available at the time and he does has potential.

    Round 3: Zavier Gooden - A raiders type selection, selected because of his speed. I can only see a future for him if he can adapt to be a pollard type safety. Like you said yourself, there were numerous more proven players we could have taken at this position with this pick. It wouldn't have taken much to move up from this spot and grab damontre moore even.

    Round 4: Brian Schwenke - I like this guy but its not a position of need. If Velasco is on his way out at the end of the coming season or something like that well then its a good pick. If not I just don't understand us signing our 6th? Olineman this offseason.

    Round 5: Lavar Edwards - Too late to address our biggest area of need. This guy brings depth but he isn't good enough to push for a starting job. Maybe I'm being harsh on Edwards, this would be a good pick if we had already taken a DE with our second pick. As it stands our pass rush is no better than last year and it wasn't good last year.

    Round 6: Khalid Whooten - I'm assuming he was picked as a return man, we'll see how he turns out.

    Round 7: Damien Stafford - We have short term solutions to our safety problems through free agency. Stafford isn't a long term solution, will be surprised if he makes the team. I was hoping for a long term solution this draft, with so much experience on the team at the moment in the safety positions it would be ideal for someone to come in and learn behind them. We didn't do that.

    My thoughts on the draft is that we had some serious area's in need of an upgrade and only our first pick really produced that. We took some good players but they were simply a luxury causing us to miss out on some needs (Hunter and schwenke).

    I'd say we went BPA. We moved up to get a played who was "on a different level" to other prospects left on our board. There was talk of Wreh-Wilson going much higher than where we got him and he fit a need. Maybe the FO had Gooden high on their board and Schwenke and Edwards are others who could have gone a round or two so were arguably BPA. The Titans had Wooten in for a visit so they obviously rated him as well.

    I think We'll have to agree to disagree on Hunter, I agree Caradine would've been nice but who knows what he'll be like after his ACL. He may not have been ready to add to our pass rush at all next season while I think Hunter gives usone of the youngest and most exciting WR corps in the NFL.

    On Wreh-Wilson, I'd think Verner is more likely to move back to slot and Wreh-Wilson play outside. If you're worried about Wreh-Wilson's speed I'm not sure why you'd want us to draft Banks in the 2nd.

    In terms of our pass rush, I think it was much better towards the end of last year when we started rushing Ayers and Brown on occasion, with both picking up a number of sacks. There's also talk of playing Ayers as a DE on obvious passing situations. Morgan also had his best year so far and showed some signs of breaking out and hopefully Sammie Lee Hill will help the two DE's by forcing some more double teams. The fact that the Titans also targeted press cover corners also indicates that they are looking to be more aggressive at getting at QBs with Greg Williams in the fold. I'm hoping that a mix of our young defence getting better, experience added to safety and Greg Williams shaking things up a bit will lead to an improvement next season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    I'd say we went BPA. We moved up to get a played who was "on a different level" to other prospects left on our board. There was talk of Wreh-Wilson going much higher than where we got him and he fit a need. Maybe the FO had Gooden high on their board and Schwenke and Edwards are others who could have gone a round or two so were arguably BPA. The Titans had Wooten in for a visit so they obviously rated him as well.

    I think We'll have to agree to disagree on Hunter, I agree Caradine would've been nice but who knows what he'll be like after his ACL. He may not have been ready to add to our pass rush at all next season while I think Hunter gives usone of the youngest and most exciting WR corps in the NFL.

    On Wreh-Wilson, I'd think Verner is more likely to move back to slot and Wreh-Wilson play outside. If you're worried about Wreh-Wilson's speed I'm not sure why you'd want us to draft Banks in the 2nd.

    In terms of our pass rush, I think it was much better towards the end of last year when we started rushing Ayers and Brown on occasion, with both picking up a number of sacks. There's also talk of playing Ayers as a DE on obvious passing situations. Morgan also had his best year so far and showed some signs of breaking out and hopefully Sammie Lee Hill will help the two DE's by forcing some more double teams. The fact that the Titans also targeted press cover corners also indicates that they are looking to be more aggressive at getting at QBs with Greg Williams in the fold. I'm hoping that a mix of our young defence getting better, experience added to safety and Greg Williams shaking things up a bit will lead to an improvement next season.

    yeah we'll just agree to disagree.

    In regards to titans going BPA, if that is the case, I really question their ratings of the prospects. You yourself said that in several cases there were others you would have rathered draft.

    In regards to banks though, he is far and away a better player than wreh. Speed only matters if you miss tackles and need to recover which unfortunately happened to wreh a lot in college. Banks is possibly the best at tackling of the corners in this draft.

    In regards to Carradine's acl, considering how well athletes are recovering from this injury these days, it shouldn't be a worry. Even Hunter came back from an ACL injury.

    I'm not as convinced with our WR corps as your are. I think hunter is as inconsistent as they come, the potential to make big plays but drops way too many balls. Sound like someone else?

    With all that said, until the end of the coming season or even the following season we really won't know how good this draft is. So don't get me wrong I hope it turns out you are right and not me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    yeah we'll just agree to disagree.

    In regards to titans going BPA, if that is the case, I really question their ratings of the prospects. You yourself said that in several cases there were others you would have rathered draft.

    In regards to banks though, he is far and away a better player than wreh. Speed only matters if you miss tackles and need to recover which unfortunately happened to wreh a lot in college. Banks is possibly the best at tackling of the corners in this draft.

    In regards to Carradine's acl, considering how well athletes are recovering from this injury these days, it shouldn't be a worry. Even Hunter came back from an ACL injury.

    I'm not as convinced with our WR corps as your are. I think hunter is as inconsistent as they come, the potential to make big plays but drops way too many balls. Sound like someone else?

    With all that said, until the end of the coming season or even the following season we really won't know how good this draft is. So don't get me wrong I hope it turns out you are right and not me.

    On BPA, yes there are players I like more, but what do I know? I liked Bray, Okafor, Quanterus Smith, Floyd and probably numerous others that slipped on draft day.

    Banks might be the better player, but there was some talk of Wreh-Wilson sneaking into the first round of the draft, obviously that would've been too high but I think he's definitely a 2nd round talent. I believe Wreh-Wilson ran a 4.39 at his pro day and even his 4.53 at the combine was better than Banks who ran in the 4.6s. Where did you hear he was a bad tackler? I didn't notice it in the tape I saw and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Jim Wyatt also said the biggest reception he gave up last year was 18 yards (not sure where he gets that info from though).

    ACL tears are easier to recover from than in the past. However Hunter also said he never felt at 100% last year and you know last years Britt didn't compare to the player he was before his ACL. I think in most cases outside of Adrian Peterson players need at least a year to return to previous form. And in some cases that form may never return. Add in that without the injury there probably would've been other questions about Carradine.

    Hunter has had some problems with drops, but he has elite measurables, good college production and big play potential. Call me optimistic but I hope Britt can return to pre-injury form this season and with him and Hunter lining up on the outside, Wright in the slot and CJ in the backfield I think we could be in for good things next year.

    As I said earlier my main worry going into this season is Locker. If Locker can't perform with the offensive pieces we've added in the off season then at least we'll know he's not our QB of the future and can move on to a new chapter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    On BPA, yes there are players I like more, but what do I know? I liked Bray, Okafor, Quanterus Smith, Floyd and probably numerous others that slipped on draft day.

    Banks might be the better player, but there was some talk of Wreh-Wilson sneaking into the first round of the draft, obviously that would've been too high but I think he's definitely a 2nd round talent. I believe Wreh-Wilson ran a 4.39 at his pro day and even his 4.53 at the combine was better than Banks who ran in the 4.6s. Where did you hear he was a bad tackler? I didn't notice it in the tape I saw and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Jim Wyatt also said the biggest reception he gave up last year was 18 yards (not sure where he gets that info from though).

    ACL tears are easier to recover from than in the past. However Hunter also said he never felt at 100% last year and you know last years Britt didn't compare to the player he was before his ACL. I think in most cases outside of Adrian Peterson players need at least a year to return to previous form. And in some cases that form may never return. Add in that without the injury there probably would've been other questions about Carradine.

    Hunter has had some problems with drops, but he has elite measurables, good college production and big play potential. Call me optimistic but I hope Britt can return to pre-injury form this season and with him and Hunter lining up on the outside, Wright in the slot and CJ in the backfield I think we could be in for good things next year.

    As I said earlier my main worry going into this season is Locker. If Locker can't perform with the offensive pieces we've added in the off season then at least we'll know he's not our QB of the future and can move on to a new chapter.

    I never heard any talk of him going in the first round. To me he's a thrid rounder who got picked in the third round. It's a fairly popular opinion on Wreh, a quick google will bring up some articles about him and some analysis, worth a read considering he's one of us now. NfL, CBSS, ESPN, Bleacher-report and others all say he has poor tackling and bites on play actions and doesn't have the speed to recover. It was evident at the senior bowl too.

    Pro day times are done on a stop watch so mean nothing unfortunately.

    Regardless of what we disagree on, I agree that our season is balanced on Lockers performance. If he's poor then all our new pieces are irrelevant. Its a QB driven league and we need Locker paying well.
    The read option might be the best way to get the most out of Locker. He is very very dangerous with his legs, he runs very powerfully as opposed to the elusive hybrid Qb's like RG3 and Newton.

    We have the O-line to pull it off and Walker would really compliment that style of offence with his superb blocking ability.
    Is Shonne Greene good at blocking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Read option could work alright. However that further increases Lockers chances of getting injured and if he gets injured again there's no like for like replacement at QB...... unless Rusty fancies running a bit of read option. Couldn't tell you if Greene is a good blocker. Whatever happens Locker has a lot to prove.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    How much time would you guys be prepared to give Locker before throwing Fitz in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    How much time would you guys be prepared to give Locker before throwing Fitz in?

    All season unless he's absolutely shocking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    How much time would you guys be prepared to give Locker before throwing Fitz in?

    It's been very hard to judge Locker so far due to injuries. I wouldn't see any point in putting Fitzpatrick in unless he gets injured again.

    He just needs a 16 game season injury free to judge him on


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Dohnny i'd agree, Fitz should go in but only if we are awful at QB.

    Even if we are losing games and Locker is playing well then that is a massive improvement


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Ya I'd be of the same opinion. I think we need to give him every chance to succeed and going by the draft and free agency I think that's how the front office feel. I like this front office and Ruston Webster as GM especially so I'm hoping if Locker isn't the guy but the rest of the team performs well that they get the chance to move forward with a different QB.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    In other new the Titans signed 2nd and 4th ranked players going into the CFL draft this year as UFAs. Obviously they haven't played top competition before, but they are both giant men so it will be interesting to see if either of them make it though camp. Also picked up the 3rd Englishman who was available in the draft, Tom Wort, who could have the best chance to make the roster with the lack of LB cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    http://walterfootball.com/offseason2013ten.php

    I know its too early to rate a draft, but walterfootball have rated all the drafts anyway.

    I disagree with a few of his ratings especially Warmack!!!!!! It's making me hopeful seeing the A grade he gave us.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    http://walterfootball.com/offseason2013ten.php

    I know its too early to rate a draft, but walterfootball have rated all the drafts anyway.

    I disagree with a few of his ratings especially Warmack!!!!!! It's making me hopeful seeing the A grade he gave us.

    I can see why he gave it though. Generally guard isn't valued that high in the draft which knocks the grade down. However as he notes we didn't have much other options and despite the fact in other years it would be too high for a guard, he will still be a fantastic player for us and hopefully a perennial pro bowler.

    To be honest the only pick I'm not that happy with in this whole draft is Gooden. He's an incredible athlete but from the game tape I saw of him it looks like he will need a lot of coaching up and there were plenty of prospects in the next round that I perferred. Considering it was a Compensatory pick and therefore a bit of a luxury we could have even gone with Barkley or Nassib. But here's hoping the coaching staff manage to turn him into a great player, chances are he'll need to play early with our LB depth and McCarthy's injury history.

    Not sure I agree with Walters assessment that Webster might be fired if Locker has a bad season though. I think it will be Munchak and his staff who are more at risk if that happens and considerable improvement is not shown in other areas. I don't believe Webster was GM yet by the time Locker was drafted and considering what he did with our last draft, hopefully this draft and the best free agency we've had in a long while I think he should be given longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    This is Webster's first offseason, so that was a ridiculous opinion. Compared to our previous offseasons, Webster is doing very well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    This is Webster's first offseason, so that was a ridiculous opinion. Compared to our previous offseasons, Webster is doing very well.

    Are you sure this is his first full offseason as GM? He was definitely GM for the draft last year but I can't remember at what stage he became GM. That's why I'm interested to see what happens with Gooden. I've seen some people say the Titans are focusing too much on 40 times in the draft under Webster. But there's contrasting evidence with that and last years draft looked pretty good through the first 4 rounds at least with the remaining picks still having time to prove themselves.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Munch will be gone, Webster wont.

    Here's the question, when Adams dies, i presume his son ascends to the throne?


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Munch will be gone, Webster wont.

    Here's the question, when Adams dies, i presume his son ascends to the throne?

    Not sure. I don't really know anything about the inner workings of the family, but I do remember when we were linked with Peyton last year and there was talk of him getting some sort of a percentage of the franchise in return, I read somewhere that his son had no interest in being the owner of a football franchise.

    But that could just be pure speculation as I can't even remember where I heard it from.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    The following have visited the titans in the last couple of days idonije DE, winston OT, jason Allen CB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    Are you sure this is his first full offseason as GM? He was definitely GM for the draft last year but I can't remember at what stage he became GM. That's why I'm interested to see what happens with Gooden. I've seen some people say the Titans are focusing too much on 40 times in the draft under Webster. But there's contrasting evidence with that and last years draft looked pretty good through the first 4 rounds at least with the remaining picks still having time to prove themselves.

    You're right, its his second.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Lavelle Hawkins has been realeased


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Lavelle Hawkins has been realeased

    Wouldn't be surprised to see another WR gone before the season as well, will be interesting to see what happens. I'd say they'll be looking to trade Washington if there is there is a willing buyer. Will Mariani be cut with Reynaud there? Is Kevin Walters already surplus to requirements having just signed this off season?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I prefer to keep Washington than Walters tbh


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    I prefer to keep Washington than Walters tbh

    Same, but assuming the staff see Britt, Wright and Hunter as their top 3 guys, Washington might be making to much money as a 4th guy. Plus they were supposedly shopping him around a few weeks before they drafted Hunter. Also I think Williams is plenty good enough to be 4th on the depth chart, I would be surprised if at least one more WR is traded or cut.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Abraham is having a 2 day visit...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Freeney also visiting it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    I won't feel so bad about the hunter pick if we get one of them two. I would rather Abraham, but would be happy with either


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I imagine amano will get cut, he frees up good room and we don't lose ability. Velasco and schwenke are fine at centre. We could sign Abraham for short term gain and have him on certain downs and sign idonije as a long term player


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Some mixed reports on the Abraham situation. Some analysts say it's pretty much done and a desk could be announced in the next few hours others saying discussions with titans but also other teams still on going and nobody is the clear favourite,

    Sign the man!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Titans pick up DT Johnson formerly of the colts and titans. Very deep at DT now.

    Tom wort the English guy has been released after failing his medical


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Fokou arrested for a DUI back in Jan. Would seem the Titans knew about it prior to signing him up


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    All quiet on the Titans front.

    Locker is going to play all preseason games
    Pollard wore pads on the first day of TC
    Walker is on the PUP list but expected to be fine
    Warmack still hasnt signed


    So so so much is dependent on Locker this year


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Warmack has signed, so he'll be in TC tomorrow.

    Tommie Campbell getting some serious love from some national writer guy who says that the Titans are a lot better than he expected.

    Locker seems to have got more accurate as TC has progressed however he still seems wobble prone which is worrying.

    Our monster DE/DT not even going to try spell his name is looking impressive as is Wimbley. Zach brown has been pegged as a pro bowler OLB already.


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