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Irish citizen child

  • 27-04-2012 7:16pm
    #1
    zaza7625
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭


    My child is Irish citizen with a Irish passport and we lived in Ireland within 5 years. 2 years ago we left the state without deportation issuance.
    Please let me know, can zambrano case work for me? As I read in one forum,if a person left the country by his/her own desire,he/she would not be entitled to grant to live and work in Ireland.
    Is it true?
    Thanks


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  • #2
    investment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭investment


    zaza7625 wrote: »
    My child is Irish citizen with a Irish passport and we lived in Ireland within 5 years. 2 years ago we left the state without deportation issuance.
    Please let me know, can zambrano case work for me? As I read in one forum,if a person left the country by his/her own desire,he/she would not be entitled to grant to live and work in Ireland.
    Is it true?
    Thanks

    If you leave someone else takes your place and so forth..there is a limit on immigrations but no limit on migrations. So you will have to wait on the list until a spot becomes free. Depending on where you are on the list it could be 5 years and with the recession it could be 10 years. Perhaps britain would be better until you get the call

    where you from??


  • #3
    jblack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jblack


    investment wrote: »
    If you leave someone else takes your place and so forth..there is a limit on immigrations but no limit on migrations. So you will have to wait on the list until a spot becomes free. Depending on where you are on the list it could be 5 years and with the recession it could be 10 years. Perhaps britain would be better until you get the call

    where you from??

    You were funnier pretending to be Rambo.


  • #4
    GOODME
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭GOODME


    The Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service (INIS)

    their website has all info and contact details, hope it helps you.

    Happy u like my country


  • #5
    Bombonica
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Bombonica


    If the child is Irish citizen shoudn't he/she be automatically entitled to live in Ireland, (the birthplace) along with his parents? same as any other Irish child?


  • #6
    BornToKill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    GOODME wrote: »
    The Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service (INIS)

    their website has all info and contact details, hope it helps you.

    Happy u like my country

    Who wouldn't? What's not to like?


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  • #7
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,667 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Bombonica wrote: »
    If the child is Irish citizen shoudn't he/she be automatically entitled to live in Ireland, (the birthplace) along with his parents? same as any other Irish child?
    no, the child met enter on his own when he is of legal age. The law as changed as all the fugees where taking advantage of our little nation.


  • #8
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    ted1 wrote: »
    no, the child met enter on his own when he is of legal age. The law as changed as all the fugees where taking advantage of our little nation.

    202822.gif

    ??!!


  • #9
    zaza7625
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭zaza7625


    I am from Georgia,ex USSR country


  • #10
    zaza7625
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭zaza7625


    yes but my child is not only a person who was born there,he also holdes an Irish passport,so he has full right to live in his country of birth


  • #11
    zaza7625
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭zaza7625


    as far as I know,all irish citizen child has a full right to live in the birth of origin,moreover,I think that child must be accompanied by the parents/guardians.


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  • #12
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Zaza - so there's not confusion I'm taking the mickey out of Ted1 not you. He said "fugees" rather than refugees. The Fugees are the pictured band.


  • #13
    DeLuxy
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭DeLuxy


    It is best to seek legal advice from a properly qualified solicitor with experience in immigration and citizenship law.

    As a non-EEA parent of an Irish citizen child it may be possible to seek an application for a right of residence based on the criteria of the Zambrano decision. However, according to INIS (Irish Immigration & Naturalisation Service) for Zambrano to apply the Irish born citizen child’s country of residence must be Ireland. So if an Irish born citizen child is not currently resident in Ireland then his/her parent(s) cannot rely on the Zambrano Judgment as a basis for securing a right of residence in Ireland. When making an application to the Department of Justice/INIS for a Zambrano decision, the Department request documentary evidence that the Irish born citizen child is living in the State e.g. letters from schools, etc.

    Furthermore, if as a non-EEA parent of an Irish citizen child you voluntarily left Ireland, the Zambrano Judgment might not apply. If non-EEA parents of Irish citizen children left Ireland of their own volition, in order to have a right of residence, the best option is for them to apply for a visitor/holiday or study visa to visit Ireland and these types of visas have numerous conditions/restrictions.

    The INIS website has some information on Zambrano here: http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP11000037

    It really is a very tricky area of law so it is imperative that you get proper legal advice.


  • #14
    GOODME
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭GOODME


    zaza7625 wrote: »
    as far as I know,all irish citizen child has a full right to live in the birth of origin,moreover,I think that child must be accompanied by the parents/guardians.

    Seems like you just came to ask us to see what we will say. Ok if you know the law why not go to Irish embassy in the country you are in to apply to return here.

    Please make sure you give us update. I gave you site to read all answers to your question.

    Make sure you come back as you are insisting he is a citizen and you know better.


  • #15
    GOODME
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭GOODME


    ted1 wrote: »
    no, the child met enter on his own when he is of legal age. The law as changed as all the fugees where taking advantage of our little nation.
    GCDLawstudent wrote: »
    202822.gif

    ??!!

    Same as Irish are in plenty of numbers of fugees in USA they can't even come home to visit their country. Plus in many other countries full of irish illegals no docs to visit home.

    Better not to say a thing.


  • #16
    BornToKill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    GCDLawstudent wrote: »
    Zaza - so there's not confusion I'm taking the mickey out of Ted1 not you. He said "fugees" rather than refugees. The Fugees are the pictured band.

    Okaay ... why do you suppose the band was called the Fugees?


  • #17
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    They liked the name Bee gees but had a cold?


  • #18
    hession.law
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭hession.law


    Damn does Fugees! rofl


  • #19
    zaza7625
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭zaza7625


    tnakns very much for advise


  • #20
    IrishAm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    BornToKill wrote: »
    Who wouldn't? What's not to like?

    Sweet Jesus. Not even in the country and looking for a free gaff.:mad:


  • #21
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus. Not even in the country and looking for a free gaff.:mad:

    Council houses are free in Ireland?!


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  • #22
    Funkfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    zaza7625 wrote: »
    My child is Irish citizen with a Irish passport and we lived in Ireland within 5 years. 2 years ago we left the state without deportation issuance.
    Please let me know, can zambrano case work for me? As I read in one forum,if a person left the country by his/her own desire,he/she would not be entitled to grant to live and work in Ireland.
    Is it true?
    Thanks

    From the FAQs off the INIS website regarding Zambrano......
    Question 3

    I am a non-EEA national. I lived in Ireland for some years but left some time ago to return to my country of origin. I left voluntarily and was never the subject of a Deportation Order. I am the parent of an Irish born citizen child. Can I rely on the Zambrano Judgment to allow me to reside in Ireland?

    Response 3

    No. The Zambrano Judgment does not apply to any person who left Ireland of their own volition. Such persons can, of course, apply for a visitor or study visa to visit Ireland but cannot rely on the Zambrano Judgment as a basis to obtain a right of residence in Ireland.


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