Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

amiable

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Cannot understand the size of the Fletcher fee. It looks almost Andy Carrollesque.

I'd be concerned about the amounts that Sunderland and QPR are spending. Doesn't look sustainable.

How much have QPR spent?

yabadabado

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Cannot understand the size of the Fletcher fee. It looks almost Andy Carrollesque.

I'd be concerned about the amounts that Sunderland and QPR are spending. Doesn't look sustainable.

Carroll was nearly 3 times more expensive than Fletcher(reported 12m).imo not comparable at all.

klose

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Any idea why Sahin is going to Liverpool and not Arsenal with CL football?

Wenger seemed to hint something about money?

It's been back and fourth between us and arsenal for over a week with both teams in pole position at times. Then arsenal had it sewn up and wanted a buy out deal and pay less of his wages. Real didn't want it so it appears he's coming to us as well pay more of his wages with no option to buy, although I think BBC are still running with the story that the option will be there, whatever I'm just delighted he might be with us for the season

I think everyones generally happy about it including himself, im sure some people will say he didn't want to come here atall but if he didn't, he simply wouldn't come here and stay in Madrid/seek other moves.

Jame Gumb

yabadabado wrote: »

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Cannot understand the size of the Fletcher fee. It looks almost Andy Carrollesque.

I'd be concerned about the amounts that Sunderland and QPR are spending. Doesn't look sustainable.

Carroll was nearly 3 times more expensive than Fletcher(reported 12m).imo not comparable at all.

I'm aware of that.

LuckyLloyd

dahat wrote: »

Liverpool are paying all his wages plus a loan fee plus relocation costs..15 million........alot of money for a loan and no option to buy........

lollers!!

I love that you believed that.

amiable

Jame Gumb wrote: »

I'm aware of that.

And how much have QPR spent?

Jame Gumb

amiable wrote: »

Jame Gumb wrote: »

I'm aware of that.

And how much have QPR spent?

Not sure - Some fees undisclosed.

It's the recurring costs of the wages that would concern me more.

And then they get tonked 5-0 at home...

Chucky the tree

The £5m fee was mentioned by some Arsenal fan who sounded bitter about losing Sahin and seemed to get a load of details incorrect/contradict each other.

yabadabado

amiable wrote: »

And how much have QPR spent?

I think QPR have spent about 6m so far.

JPA

So Everton are said to be close to signing this Niang kid even though AC Milan, Man City and Arsenal are supposedly interested, what's the story with that?

yabadabado

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Not sure - Some fees undisclosed.

It's the recurring costs of the wages that would concern me more.

And then they get tonked 5-0 at home...

only had to pay for 2 of the players brought in,rest were free transfers/loan.

amiable

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Not sure - Some fees undisclosed.

It's the recurring costs of the wages that would concern me more.

And then they get tonked 5-0 at home...

So why mention how much if you don't know fcuk all about it?
How much of their wages have they released from their books?

yabadabado

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The £5m fee was mentioned by some Arsenal fan who sounded bitter about losing Sahin and seemed to get a load of details incorrect/contradict each other.

sour grapes from arsenal fans imo.Cracking player is Sahin,no matter how long he stays at Liverpool.

Jame Gumb

amiable wrote: »

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Not sure - Some fees undisclosed.

It's the recurring costs of the wages that would concern me more.

And then they get tonked 5-0 at home...

So why mention how much if you don't know fcuk all about it?
How much of their wages have they released from their books?

What's with the ridiculous agression?

They're trying to sign Dawson for £9m. They're in talks with William Gallas. Theyve signed Andy Johnson and Ji Sung Park. Do you think these guys are getting 20k a week between them?

The papers are full of "QPR defend spending splurge" stories.

You might wanna lose that attitude. All I said was that I'd be concerned about them possibly overextending themselves. No need for your post.

Mars Bar

Jame Gumb wrote: »

What's with the ridiculous agression?

They're trying to sign Dawson for £9m. They're in talks with William Gallas. Theyve signed Andy Johnson and Ji Sung Park. Do you think these guys are getting 20k a week between them?

The papers are full of "QPR defend spending splurge" stories.

You might wanna lose that attitude. All I said was that I'd be concerned about them possibly overextending themselves. No need for your post.

Andy Johnson is gone to Sunderland

G.K.

Kess73 wrote: »

A lot of things happen in Wycombe that I would not be shouting about :pac:

Don't get me started...

Jax Teller

Mars Bar wrote: »

Andy Johnson is gone to Sunderland

No he's not thats Adam .

Mars Bar

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

No he's not thats Adam .

Ah, that's right!

Seaneh

Jame Gumb wrote: »

What's with the ridiculous agression?

They're trying to sign Dawson for £9m. They're in talks with William Gallas. Theyve signed Andy Johnson and Ji Sung Park. Do you think these guys are getting 20k a week between them?

The papers are full of "QPR defend spending splurge" stories.

You might wanna lose that attitude. All I said was that I'd be concerned about them possibly overextending themselves. No need for your post.

They are also in talks to sign Julio Ceasar from Inter.

He won't be on low wages, that's for ****ing sure.

amiable

Jame Gumb wrote: »

What's with the ridiculous agression?

They're trying to sign Dawson for £9m. They're in talks with William Gallas. Theyve signed Andy Johnson and Ji Sung Park. Do you think these guys are getting 20k a week between them?

The papers are full of "QPR defend spending splurge" stories.

You might wanna lose that attitude. All I said was that I'd be concerned about them possibly overextending themselves. No need for your post.

So you can't answer the question.
I asked questions because you are spouting rubbish that you can't back up.
It seems you have the attitude

amiable

Seaneh wrote: »

They are also in talks to sign Julio Ceasar from Inter.

He won't be on low wages, that's for ****ing sure.

Inter paying him huge money apparently.
I'd imagine if he were to sign a pay off from Inter would happen?

Seaneh

amiable wrote: »

Inter paying him huge money apparently.
I'd imagine if he were to sign a pay off from Inter would happen?

They would just rescind his contract, like they did with Samuel and Forlan.

Whoever he sings for will pay him.

amiable

Seaneh wrote: »

They would just rescind his contract, like they did with Samuel and Forlan.

Whoever he sings for will pay him.

Surely it's not that easy?

Seaneh

amiable wrote: »

Surely it's not that easy?

It is if he want's to leave and Inter want him gone.

Xavi6

The Adam Johnson is a good bit of business all round with City making a tidy profit off a player who would rarely feature and Sunderland getting an established international who will do well for them playing week in, week out.

Time for us to buy a proper winger now though.

kryogen

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Adam Johnson is a good bit of business all round with City making a tidy profit off a player who would rarely feature and Sunderland getting an established international who will do well for them playing week in, week out.

Time for us to buy a proper winger now though.

All I heard was that the fee was undisclosed, how much you think it was?

(Yes, I am that lazy that I won't google it)

Paully D

kryogen wrote: »

All I heard was that the fee was undisclosed, how much you think it was?

(Yes, I am that lazy that I won't google it)

£10m fee mate:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/9498308/Manchester-City-outcast-Adam-Johnson-returns-to-North-East-in-10m-deal-with-Sunderland.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/24/sunderland-confirm-steven-fletcher-wolves?newsfeed=true

kryogen

Did City sign him for less then 10? Jesus, good business all round then

(Thanks Paully)

Paully D

kryogen wrote: »

Did City sign him for less then 10? Jesus, good business all round then

(Thanks Paully)

Was officially undisclosed but reported to be around £7m:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/01/adam-johnson-manchester-city-middlesbrough

No problem

batistuta9

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Any idea why Sahin is going to Liverpool and not Arsenal with CL football?

Wenger seemed to hint something about money?

Real & arsenal had agreed a loan deal, supposed to be for £2mil. He was scheduled for a medical and all

wenger was looking to have an option to buy included but they couldn't agree on it

Sahin also wasn't keen on this, as he still wants to play for Real & only wants to go on loan for the season with the hope of getting back in the Real team. Though arsenal were his preference for a loan

arsenal then pulled out of the deal, probably deciding it wasn't worth it financially just for the loan, wenger also said ‘And of course, Sahin wants to play. He wants to join a club where he will play (every week). We have nine midfielders and they all need a chance to play.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2193260/Arsenal-continue-talks-Arsene-Wenger.html#ixzz24WJasH2Z

there's one or two people even saying that arsenal were looking to buy now

bhamsteve

Good Guardian article on the spending by QPR

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9493601/QPRs-owners-speculate-to-accumulate-real-success.html

Summary-

• QPR have been spending more than they generate for years.
• This is possible as they are owned and financed by some of the worlds richest people.

Giggsy11

Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

The thing that gave the last twist to the Sahin saga. After Madrid and Arsenal agreed a 2m loan deal, Liverpool offered 5m (no option 2 buy)

barone

think its obvious sahin would have went to arsenal first if all things were equal, im just happy all things were not and he is comming to the pool, albeit on loan.


who knows after that,he may love the place and wanna stick around given the option

adox

Sahin loan to Liverpool confirmed.

Leiva

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

The difference is about 3 league positions . (2or3 mil)

A fully fit Sahin playing week-in-week-out should improve our league position so it could be a shrewd move by LFC and who knows the guy might like the PL/LFC.

It's a win win for both parties and I'm delighted to have him at Liverpool .

Welcome Nuri.

Let Operation Keep Nuri commence

amiable

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

He'll probably state somewhere else that the loan fee was £2 million to cover all bases.
Guillem Ballague is not a reliable source IMHO. This all stemmed from an Arsenal blogger as far as I know.

greendom

amiable wrote: »

He'll probably state somewhere else that the loan fee was £2 million to cover all bases.
Guillem Ballague is not a reliable source IMHO. This all stemmed from an Arsenal blogger as far as I know.

If the 5m is true I'm delighted Wenger walked away from the deal. Just hope he uses the money he saved there on another player - DM and support striker please.

amiable

greendom wrote: »

If the 5m is true I'm delighted Wenger walked away from the deal. Just hope he uses the money he saved there on another player - DM and support striker please.

Liverpool and Arsenal have different needs at the moment.
If Liverpool have splashed out a couple of extra million it's because Liverpool badly need him.
I've still yet to see a reliable source to this £5 million and 100% of sahin's wages though.

Kiwi_knock

Stoke have agreed personal terms with Maurice Edu. He just has to pass a medical and get a work permit.

MD1990

Afellay hasn't made Barca's squad for there game tomorow at Osasuna
id say he is definetly moving in the next few days

AdamD

Would have thought Guillem Balague is fairly reliable tbh, doubt he tweeted something having read it in an Arsenal blog as claimed here

Leiva

AdamD wrote: »

Would have thought Guillem Balague is fairly reliable tbh, doubt he tweeted something having read it in an Arsenal blog as claimed here

BallBag is far from reliant . end of

amiable

AdamD wrote: »

Would have thought Guillem Balague is fairly reliable tbh, doubt he tweeted something having read it in an Arsenal blog as claimed here

He's actually not that reliable. There are bloggers with over 20,000 followers on twitter that people believe all the time. I think the same blogger was claiming Sahin had his pictures taken in Arsenal gear and the only reason the deal to Arsenal wasn't announced is because the website tech people only work 9 to 5.

Back to Ballague, there are plenty of posters on here with examples of him getting things wrong and sometimes where he posts 2 different outcomes and claims to be right

elefant

AdamD wrote: »

Would have thought Guillem Balague is fairly reliable tbh, doubt he tweeted something having read it in an Arsenal blog as claimed here

He's a total spoofer. Always makes it sounds like he's been having personal chats with the Spanish players, and knows exactly what will happen to them next, yet is rarely right.

Corholio

elefant wrote: »

He's a total spoofer. Always makes it sounds like he's been having personal chats with the Spanish players, and knows exactly what will happen to them next, yet is rarely right.

While he's not always right with things, he's right more than 'rarely'.

Bodhisopha

I like Ballague doing the Spanish football on Sky, but he has had some howlers. His recent Drogba to Barca one is sort of hard to get over. I think he said it was due to be announced within the next 48.. then... nothing...

yabadabado

Guillem Balague has no more inside info than any other journalist,he just spoofs a lot.Sure he gets plenty of transfers right but if you drop enough names you will.

Roger Sterling

Leiva wrote: »

BallBag is far from reliant . end of

You should get that looked at!;-)

amiable

Cassano on Galliani this morning "Talks and talks. He is only friends with people who lick his ass"

yabadabado

amiable wrote: »

Cassano on Galliani this morning "Talks and talks. He is only friends with people who lick his ass"

Gotta love Cassano.Takes no ****.