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January Transfer Gossip

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Not too sure about Llorente at all, for one he's 27, soon to be 28, and he will be commanding a big salary. That's fine for your bigger clubs, but when we already have the likes of Dempsey on £90,000 a week, it becomes an issue. What's more, he only has 1 league goal this season, from 8 appearances. I know there has a lot been going on with him, but still, that return represents a big risk.

    I was a big fan of him, but I don't know if we can afford to take such a big risk on a player of his age, and one that's not even getting regular playing time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    I would think that dempsey is not on anywher near 90k per week


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    mickman wrote: »
    I would think that dempsey is not on anywher near 90k per week
    Perhaps not, I thought I heard that back when he signed, which is why I, and a few others, thought he was a shockingly bad buy.

    Found this after a quick google search. It says he earns an estimated $22,200,000 a year, which is about $140,000 a week. Translate that to pounds and it's actually over £100,000 a week, but, again, I heard £90,000 quoted as his wage.

    EDIT: 22,200,000 over 3 years, not one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭nipps


    linked with ajax's christian eriksen.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8324878/Ajax-s-Christian-Eriksen-would-consider-England-Spain-Italy-or-Germany

    didnt really know too much about him barr seeing him with ajax in the CL. there seems to be a lot of hype about him, with martin jol (when he was ajax manager) comparing his potential to sneijder and VDV. he's only 20 and is a key member of the ajax team, will cost a fair bit of cash though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Devo from Dublin


    Just tell Jan the Man to have a word!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭golfball37


    I won't be able to digest my lunch after reading what Clint Dempesey is getting per week.

    What a shambles from "Mr Frugal" Levy. Playing penny pinching with Porto cost us Moutinho and almost Lloris yet he makes an extremely ordinary player the 2nd highest paid at the club.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    I believe anything I read ;)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    No wonder he picked Spurs over Liverpool with those wages. Crazy money for him.

    Still hope we get Moutinho, but i know it's unlikely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Cianan2


    THFC wrote: »
    Not too sure about Llorente at all, for one he's 27, soon to be 28, and he will be commanding a big salary. That's fine for your bigger clubs, but when we already have the likes of Dempsey on £90,000 a week, it becomes an issue. What's more, he only has 1 league goal this season, from 8 appearances. I know there has a lot been going on with him, but still, that return represents a big risk.

    I was a big fan of him, but I don't know if we can afford to take such a big risk on a player of his age, and one that's not even getting regular playing time.

    Torres only scored 13 goals in the season before Liverpool bought him, 9 of which were goals AFAIK


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Cianan2 wrote: »
    Torres only scored 13 goals in the season before Liverpool bought him, 9 of which were goals AFAIK
    Key difference there being Torres was only 22/23 years old, was captain of Atlético and was a regular for Spain. Llorente is nearing 28, is a sub for Spain and also, this season (admittedly because of his intentions to move) a sub for Athletic. I'm not saying he'll be bad signing, I just don't think he's worth the risk.

    Also just after checking there on Wiki and Torres actually got 14 league goals plus another in the cup.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Just wondering I haven't heard too much transfer news from us so far this season but I guess that's because Harry isn't here.

    So far linked with

    Erikson
    Sneijder
    Llorente


    No Leandro rumours though which is disappointing really like the look of him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,946 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Sneijder - that's both haha and wow, for how ridiculous it is and also for what an impact a signing like that would have. That'll never happen as he could play for any club in the world and his wages would be massive. I honestly don't see Llorente signing either, even though he's probably be a good fit. I think AVB is happy enough with Defoe/Ade and Dempsey as backup.

    I would like to see another winger signed, someone who could cover the left and right wings. It'll be interesting to see whether any money is spent and whether we'll go back in for Moutinho, who'd be great.

    Sandro -- Moutinho

    Dembele
    Lennon - Ade/Dempsey - Bale
    Defoe


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur


    An ambidextrous, creative and goalscoring winger in the mould of Willian would be well suited, Lennon for me is not clinical enough and Bale needs to be pushed for consistency.

    I'd love if Levy had the Moutinho deal agreed but I can't see that happening until the summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Llorante, Sniejder, Leandro?

    Give me a break, Anelka or Robbie Keane are more realistic lads.

    Ba or Cisse from NEWC would do me nicely.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Llorante, Sniejder, Leandro?

    Give me a break, Anelka or Robbie Keane are more realistic lads.

    Ba or Cisse from NEWC would do me nicely.

    'arry got the sack buddy :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur


    As expected, Adebayor looks likely to travel to the ACN now, his withdrawal was probably being used to force their FA to pay the players.

    Does this mean we need a striker? Ba, Llorente or Huntelaar please....

    If we bid £30m (apparently) for Llorente two years ago surely we'll be trying to snap him up given his current situation... Unless AVB has an ace up his sleeve..:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,946 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    If he goes, it's a big loss. That's potentially over a month with him gone - how many games will that be? Llorente would be the ideal replacement - cheapish, big, strong and most likely able to handle the PL game.

    I still can't see it happening though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Saw Ba's comments yesterday re: interest in joining them up the road.

    I think he'd be a realistic target for us too.

    Huntelaar much like Llorante would be somewhat of a risk and would demand large wages and signing on fee but at we are going to have to take a risk no matter who we sign as we can cant realistically attract the top, proven strikers of europe and SA


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur


    SuprSi wrote: »
    If he goes, it's a big loss. That's potentially over a month with him gone - how many games will that be?

    Togos first game is Jan 22nd so expect him to be gone before the away game to QPR on the 14th. Their last group game is the 30th which means he'll probably miss United at home (20th), Norwich away (29th) and West Brom away (Feb 3rd).

    They have a tough group (Tunisia, Algeria and Ivory Coast) but you never know, the quarters are (Feb 2nd), Semis (Feb 6th), Final (Feb 10th) so potentially could miss Newcastle at home (Feb 9th).

    I think it's fair to say we could probably win most of these games without him but what if Defoe picks up a niggly injury between now and then? That is a massive risk. Window closes on Jan 31st.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Whether he stays or goes to the ACN we still need another striker either way in January,I'd rather we got a new striker than a midfielder tbh.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭mushykeogh


    Huntelaar eh? Wouldnt be Christmas without him being mentioned!, i think he is in every january transfer thread since 2008! and he still aint joining us:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Huntelaar will be joining someone in Jan. Apparently he's demanding £100,000 a week and a 3 year contract. I don't know how much value there is in him given he is 29!

    Llorente will not be allowed to leave even though he is out of contract in the summer apparently. He has been frozen out of the Bilbao squad which is really quite worrying.

    Correct me here but Willian and Moutinho will both have Champions League on their plate; I can't see us getting either of them.

    I think there is money in the pot but I'm not sure if the right player is available. Ba isn't consistently making the newcastle team and word on the street is he has scar tissue all around his knee. Bit of a ticking timebomb. Let Arsenal sign him! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    We are covered in midfield now with Parker back from injury. It gives us at least 6 players who can play in the CM positions - Dembele, Sandro, Parker, Hudd, Carroll & Livermore. During the summer transfer window I was one of the many hoping we would sign Moutinho. But now i think we would be wise to use that transfer money on a striker and that's mainly down to Dembele. I knew he was a good player when we signed him from Fulham but he has completely surpassed my expectations. He is confident on the ball, can shrug off defenders, dribble pass players with ease and has a decent shot. Sandro & Dembele have formed a great partnership in the middle possibly up there with the best in the league at the moment.

    But with Ade leaving in Jan and Defoe one hamstring tweak away from us playing with no strikers we need to reinforce our goal scoring threat. As usual with Spurs who we get is all up to Levy. Will he loosen the purse strings in Jan.? I think the next few weeks results will determine how willing Daniel will be to splash out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    We are covered in midfield now with Parker back from injury. It gives us at least 6 players who can play in the CM positions - Dembele, Sandro, Parker, Hudd, Carroll & Livermore. During the summer transfer window I was one of the many hoping we would sign Moutinho. But now i think we would be wise to use that transfer money on a striker and that's mainly down to Dembele.


    I know where you're coming from, but I don't necessarily agree. Unfortunately we don't have the required cover for Dembele to make a push for 4th place if Dembele is injured. Proof being the struggle we went through when Dembele was out earlier in the season.

    It's good having Parker back n'all, but he's just a bit of stronger cover for Sandro.

    The purpose of bringing the likes of a Moutinho in would be to push Dembele further forward in a midfield three. This would give the wingers more free reign to get forward and support the striker.

    I can't imagine us getting a marquee striker signing in January. The reality is, any player who's contract is not running out in the Summer will be over-priced.... selling clubs like to squeeze purchasing clubs because time is on their side in the negotiations. Daniel Levy is not one for being squeezed. Secondly, we don't have Champions League football, so any marquee signing we might buy now, would probably prefer to move in the Summer when he will know if we've got Champions League football for next season.

    My personal choice would be more creativity in midfield and then an extra bit of strength up front (without breaking the bank, possible signing youth and potential).

    Moutinho for midfield - if he wants to give up CL football.
    Charlie Austin for forward - backup for first team. Has decent senior experience and bags of potential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Thudd and Livermore aren't good enough for a top 4 team.

    Carroll has potential but isn't ready to be direct cover.

    Yet to understand how Moutinho deal isn't already wrapped up? Fee was agreed signing wasn't made due to technicality. So what's stopping it to have been sorted long ago for January 1st? Someone should get Levy on the blower and tell him that you can sign players outside of transfer windows.

    AVB only really likes playing one up front. Take a look at the u21 setup, his model is workin well with them because they have the players to be able to do it. With Moutinho the first team would be able to do it aswell.

    Moutinho/Sandro Lennon/Bale either side in Advanced wide roles Dembele advanced playmaker and Defoe up top. Would be my ideal front 6 for second half of season.

    Llorente would be great too but doubt we'll get him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    I know where you're coming from, but I don't necessarily agree. Unfortunately we don't have the required cover for Dembele to make a push for 4th place if Dembele is injured. Proof being the struggle we went through when Dembele was out earlier in the season.

    It's good having Parker back n'all, but he's just a bit of stronger cover for Sandro.

    The purpose of bringing the likes of a Moutinho in would be to push Dembele further forward in a midfield three. This would give the wingers more free reign to get forward and support the striker.

    I can't imagine us getting a marquee striker signing in January. The reality is, any player who's contract is not running out in the Summer will be over-priced.... selling clubs like to squeeze purchasing clubs because time is on their side in the negotiations. Daniel Levy is not one for being squeezed. Secondly, we don't have Champions League football, so any marquee signing we might buy now, would probably prefer to move in the Summer when he will know if we've got Champions League football for next season.

    My personal choice would be more creativity in midfield and then an extra bit of strength up front (without breaking the bank, possible signing youth and potential).

    Moutinho for midfield - if he wants to give up CL football.
    Charlie Austin for forward - backup for first team. Has decent senior experience and bags of potential.


    In an ideal world Spurs would buy Moutinho and a top striker but its not going to happen. We need cover up front first of all.
    I cannot see Levy buying Moutinho so that Dembele will play more forward off a lone striker. Levy already sanctioned the purchase of two attacking midfielders/forwards in Dempsey and Siggy, this season. Pushing Dembele into that advanced position would make Levy seem foolish for buying Siggy/Dempesy already and Levy does not to look foolish in the transfer market.

    Not sure who we will get in Jan but we need cover for Ade/Defoe. Any chance Cavani fancies a move to North London? hahahaha


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    I'd honestly much rather give the likes of Coulibaly a shot than sign someone like Charlie Austin. Afterall what are our youth players for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover




    In an ideal world Spurs would buy Moutinho and a top striker but its not going to happen. We need cover up front first of all.
    I cannot see Levy buying Moutinho so that Dembele will play more forward off a lone striker. Levy already sanctioned the purchase of two attacking midfielders/forwards in Dempsey and Siggy, this season. Pushing Dembele into that advanced position would make Levy seem foolish for buying Siggy/Dempesy already and Levy does not to look foolish in the transfer market.

    Not sure who we will get in Jan but we need cover for Ade/Defoe. Any chance Cavani fancies a move to North London? hahahaha


    You must remember though that we were reportedly 30 mins off signing Moutinho on deadline day. Long after both players had joined. So what has changed since then? Dempsey and sigurdsson has hardly set the world alight so surely Levy would back AVB on this one.

    Edit: actually was wrong, Dempsey was a deadline day deal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 442 ✭✭Emoran


    Can't it to be rumoured with kaka again! Here's hoping after 3 seasons of it being mentioned on sky it might happen :p

    Kaka + Cavani/Leandro Damiao is on my santy wish list although it'll never happen a boy can dream


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Not a big current Kaka fan. Wages would be too high. Think Moutinho is still a better option allowing Dembele more freedom up where it matters.

    Dutch papers saying Huntelaar set to sign new contract with Schalke.


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