Traffic Management - Stop & Go signs

Starburst85

Hello just wondered if anyone could help with this:

Im half way through my one year working holiday visa and would like to stay for the second year. I've heard working in regional areas holding up the Stop & Go signs are under the Specified work required as it falls under Construction.

I've heard an RTA course is required but who is the right person to contact to getting into this kind of work? Would signing up to a Recruitment Agency help or there a direct contact?

Also, can the RTA course be done online like the RSA course?

Any help given, is appreciated,
Thanks :pac:

elle

Hi Starburst!

The RTA course is state based and it cannot be done online. It is a full day course, best thing to do is google Traffic Management Course and the state you are planning on working in and you should find a location easy enough as they are pretty common courses. It costs around $270.

You will also need to do a White Card course. This one can be done online or I think some venues run the white card and RTA together. This costs about $60 I think.

Another cost consideration is your uniform. This isn't provided by the company so expect to pay out a bit for work boots and uniform.

Traffic control does meet the requirement of specified work but ONLY if it is in a regional area so check this out before you go for the job. I know there is a lot of work in Sydney and Melbourne but these don't count for your 2nd year visa as they are not regional!

Hope this helps

Mellor

elle wrote: »

Another cost consideration is your uniform. This isn't provided by the company so expect to pay out a bit for work boots and uniform.

That depends on the company. Some provide the uniforms for full time staff.

Mossticles

I did this last year in Mackay, Queensland. I wrote to the ozzie visa section asking if it was definitely included for the 2nd year and they replied with a yes.

BEST. JOB. EVER!

Wow like. Brother is based in Mackay, mining town where everything costs plenty, rent about 140dollars a month for a decent shared house. AAaaannyway, I did my White Card online with Narbil Training, cost about 60dollars, then I did a one day traffic control course with Gary Sorensen (Tropical Investigations I think was the name of the company), cost bout 150dollars I think. Then you're a qualified stander-with-the-sign as big massive road trains with sleepy drivers in the middle of nowhere come Barrelling down the road towards you with smoke plooming up behind them as their delayed reactions result in massive skidmarks up the road and smaler ones in your jocks!

Not too bad, although the odd person dies each year from doing this really simple job, too many long journeys being undertaken by drivers means if you're on a bit of a corner you've to be wide awake for unattentive drivers. End of rant.

I was making bout 1000dollars a week, if you're lucky they send you away for the week in a 'camp', which usually means chilling out with the construction team in a motel and having all meals paid for, out first thing on a Monday morning and back on a Saturday evening with not a penny of your money spent, with a couple weeks earning me 1800dollars for a monday-saturday! Can't go-on enough about this job to people thinking of doing their regional work. All you have to do is be able to get on well with yourself and be able to get up early each morning (usually 6am at the depot). Some jobs only require you to do a couple hours a day.

Linemark in mackay was who I did it with. They supplied me with high vis vest and tops, rimmed hard hat, sunglasses when i asked, gloves and walkie. All ya gotta have yourself is jeans and steel-toe boots.

Questions?

daftdave

Mossticles wrote: »

I did this last year in Mackay, Queensland. I wrote to the ozzie visa section asking if it was definitely included for the 2nd year and they replied with a yes.

BEST. JOB. EVER!

Wow like. Brother is based in Mackay, mining town where everything costs plenty, rent about 140dollars a month for a decent shared house. AAaaannyway, I did my White Card online with Narbil Training, cost about 60dollars, then I did a one day traffic control course with Gary Sorensen (Tropical Investigations I think was the name of the company), cost bout 150dollars I think. Then you're a qualified stander-with-the-sign as big massive road trains with sleepy drivers in the middle of nowhere come Barrelling down the road towards you with smoke plooming up behind them as their delayed reactions result in massive skidmarks up the road and smaler ones in your jocks!

Not too bad, although the odd person dies each year from doing this really simple job, too many long journeys being undertaken by drivers means if you're on a bit of a corner you've to be wide awake for unattentive drivers. End of rant.

I was making bout 1000dollars a week, if you're lucky they send you away for the week in a 'camp', which usually means chilling out with the construction team in a motel and having all meals paid for, out first thing on a Monday morning and back on a Saturday evening with not a penny of your money spent, with a couple weeks earning me 1800dollars for a monday-saturday! Can't go-on enough about this job to people thinking of doing their regional work. All you have to do is be able to get on well with yourself and be able to get up early each morning (usually 6am at the depot). Some jobs only require you to do a couple hours a day.

Linemark in mackay was who I did it with. They supplied me with high vis vest and tops, rimmed hard hat, sunglasses when i asked, gloves and walkie. All ya gotta have yourself is jeans and steel-toe boots.

Questions?

did ya have a betty swollix working in jeans up in Queensland ??, id say so !

Mossticles

Regular Betty Swollix!
I started traffic control May 2nd last year. after 3months with all the money I was earning I ended up staying til November! If it rains though, usually told not to come into work cos the bitumen (tar) won't dry right. Which means low hours for the week ... but lovely sleep ins instead

I think i might have chosen the best time to do it, after the hot rainy season in queensland, winter is only a bit chilly in the morn and night. Sometimes even working in national parks, gawking around the place with no traffic in sight, shalking tite to the lads on the walkie talkie and secretely listening to moby or some other chilly tunes while spying kangaroos or mad birds bopping around the place. All the time keeping a lazy eye out for shnnnnnnaaaakes! But so rare to see

prestonam

I work in Geelong in Victoria Oz as a casual traffic controller but its not on a so called construction worksite We basically work with electrical, gas & concrete & road crews? does anyone know someone who got a visa by doing this? i only have 3 mths left so really need to know soon thanks

sponge_bob

prestonam wrote: »

I work in Geelong in Victoria Oz as a casual traffic controller but its not on a so called construction worksite We basically work with electrical, gas & concrete & road crews? does anyone know someone who got a visa by doing this? i only have 3 mths left so really need to know soon thanks

Pretty sure they would come under construction work, Just make sure the postcode of where you are working is classed as regional by immigration, you can ring immi if you are unsure as mossticles did.

Mellor

Traffic controlling for pipe laying qualifies you for a 2nd WHV. I'm 100% sure of this. It's a very common type of traffic control work. Due it it bring directly on the road a lot of the time.

Whether your specific works will count will depend solely on the post code.

prestonam

Thanks Guys, I contacted IMMI this morning and they advised my position was ok. I have checked the postcode i work in numerous times so it is definitely ok. The only ting that appears to be grey is the daily hours i need to work. As Traffic control is usually a casual position u cannot be guaranteed a 8 hr day but IMMI expect u to do the usual amount of hours for the industry but is there one? its so grey it has me nervous.

Mellor

A full day is what ever the rest of the crew works. ie how ever long that paticular day was.

If the road opening hours are restrictive and you only do 6 hours a day thats 1 day.
if you get rained off after 2 hours, that's still 1 day.

If you are there full time, and work a standard 5 days a week, that counts as 7 days.
If you are casual, or agency, and some weeks you only do 3 days, thats only 3 days etc.

katelyn502

Hey guys, I currently just got my traffic control license and I am looking for work. I am currently on the gold coast and I was looking at doing my work in the 4211 postcode so that it will count for my second year visa. Just wondering how you guys went about filling out the form for your second year visa? Did you just put traffic control the company name and the postcode? I am looking to go with a company called traffic group Australia but there office on the gold coast is not in the postcode but where they are sending me to work is. So how do I go about writing that? Also did immigration require any documents to show that you did the work in the regional area? Hope someone can help me with these questions. I tried to ring immigration but they are useless and wouldn't help. thanks

Irving0

Mossticles wrote: »

I did this last year in Mackay, Queensland. I wrote to the ozzie visa section asking if it was definitely included for the 2nd year and they replied with a yes.

BEST. JOB. EVER!

Wow like. Brother is based in Mackay, mining town where everything costs plenty, rent about 140dollars a month for a decent shared house. AAaaannyway, I did my White Card online with Narbil Training, cost about 60dollars, then I did a one day traffic control course with Gary Sorensen (Tropical Investigations I think was the name of the company), cost bout 150dollars I think. Then you're a qualified stander-with-the-sign as big massive road trains with sleepy drivers in the middle of nowhere come Barrelling down the road towards you with smoke plooming up behind them as their delayed reactions result in massive skidmarks up the road and smaler ones in your jocks!

Not too bad, although the odd person dies each year from doing this really simple job, too many long journeys being undertaken by drivers means if you're on a bit of a corner you've to be wide awake for unattentive drivers. End of rant.

I was making bout 1000dollars a week, if you're lucky they send you away for the week in a 'camp', which usually means chilling out with the construction team in a motel and having all meals paid for, out first thing on a Monday morning and back on a Saturday evening with not a penny of your money spent, with a couple weeks earning me 1800dollars for a monday-saturday! Can't go-on enough about this job to people thinking of doing their regional work. All you have to do is be able to get on well with yourself and be able to get up early each morning (usually 6am at the depot). Some jobs only require you to do a couple hours a day.

Linemark in mackay was who I did it with. They supplied me with high vis vest and tops, rimmed hard hat, sunglasses when i asked, gloves and walkie. All ya gotta have yourself is jeans and steel-toe boots.

Questions?

Mossticles,

I was google searching for information about traffic control and the 2nd year working holiday visa in Australia and saw your post.

My girlfriend and I moved up to Darwin and she did her 88 days up there (postcode counts as regional) as a traffic controller. Unfortunately, immigration has said that traffic control work doesn't count!!!!

In your post you say you contacted immigration to ask if traffic control work counted and they replied saying it did. Is there any way you could share this email/communication with me so we can use it as evidence in our reply to immigration?

If anyone else has any evidence we could use I would be so grateful, this has been very annoying/upsetting.

Thanks

Mellor

Irving0 wrote: »

Mossticles,

I was google searching for information about traffic control and the 2nd year working holiday visa in Australia and saw your post.

My girlfriend and I moved up to Darwin and she did her 88 days up there (postcode counts as regional) as a traffic controller. Unfortunately, immigration has said that traffic control work doesn't count!!!!

In your post you say you contacted immigration to ask if traffic control work counted and they replied saying it did. Is there any way you could share this email/communication with me so we can use it as evidence in our reply to immigration?

If anyone else has any evidence we could use I would be so grateful, this has been very annoying/upsetting.

Thanks

First place to check should be Border.gov.au's page on the 417 visa

Approved industries for specified work include:

• plant and animal cultivation
• fishing and pearling
• tree farming and felling
• mining
• construction.

Specified work is any type of work described in the list below:

...

construction

• residential building construction
• non-residential building construction
• heavy and civil engineering construction
• land development and site preparation services
• building structure services
• building installation services
• building completion services
• other construction services.

The Australian New Zealand Standard Industrial Classification (ANZSIC) provides further detail about eligible work in mining and construction​. Work undertaken in the mining and construction sectors must appear in the ANZSIC division for these sectors to meet the specified work requirement

...

Examples of eligible specified work:
picking fruits on an orchard
feeding and herding cattle on a farm
horse breeding and stud farming
landscaping the grounds of a construction/house site
painting the interior/exterior of new buildings
conservation and environmental reforestation work
zoo work involving plant or animal cultivation
erecting fences on a construction site
scaffolding.

Examples of ineligible specified work:
ship/boat building
performing specialised social science services (such as anthropological and archaeological assessments) for mining companies
town planning or architecture
working as a nanny on a farm
working at a cellar door providing wine tastings
manufacturing materials used on a construction site (such as concrete or steel)
cooking/catering on a mine site
cleaning the interior of mine complexes or buildings.

It's definitely met the definition of specified work in the past. Personally, I'd consider it under the heading of "other construction services". It's not specifically listed as being eligible or ineligible. But it's much closer to acceptable actualy construction work than catering/clean on a mining/construction site.
But the definitions could well have move in recent years.