King's Inns BL Degree - Times

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Hi all,

I have contacted the King's Inns on this, but have yet to receive a clear reply.

I'm wondering what the typical hours are like on the full-time BL course. The website mentions 9am-5.15pm Monday to Friday. However, on the on the phone to the KI office, I was told that its sometimes less than this and that it varies.

Can anyone offer some clarity on how many hours there are a week of tuition, generally speaking.

Would really appreciate the help!

Procrastastudy

I've heard if you are doing the full time course you are either a "morninger" (9-1) or an "afternooner" (11-3) times may not be accurate. Apparently the rivalry between the two can get quite intense.

There obviously other stuff that goes on like the need to dine in on a number of occations.

paky

so your saying its pretty much only 3 hours of lectures a day?

Procrastastudy

I think so - this was from a Barrister that came into give us a talk. I may have not remembered everything he went though correctly. The I do know they essentially run three shifts; Morning, Afternoon and Evening (For the part timersse) but you'd be better off cheking with the KI.

Incidently 3 hours a day is alot - I know trinners in first year get 9 hours a week across 5 subjects. We at GCD are notoriously spoon fed and get 20 across 4 subjects which is a huge number of contact hours! Sometimes it goes up to 23 with tutorials.

paky

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

I think so - this was from a Barrister that came into give us a talk. I may have not remembered everything he went though correctly. The I do know they essentially run three shifts; Morning, Afternoon and Evening (For the part timersse) but you'd be better off cheking with the KI.

Incidently 3 hours a day is alot - I know trinners in first year get 9 hours a week across 5 subjects. We at GCD are notoriously spoon fed and get 20 across 4 subjects which is a huge number of contact hours! Sometimes it goes up to 23 with tutorials.

tbh i'd be in favour of more lecture hours. it would save a hell of a lot of time on study, something which i hate doing

shipwreck

For the F/T Barrister at law course there are two split groups

Monday to Friday

Group1 9pm-11pm and 1pm-3pm

Group 2 11pm to 1pm and 3pm to 5pm

10 dining session which start at 6.30pm



The mod students (ie part-time BL course)

All Saturday and Sunday

The diploma students

5.45pm to 8 (Monday to Tuesday)

9.30 -12.45 (every alternate Saturday)

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Any idea whether you can choose which time slot you're going to be grouped into? I would much rather the afternoon group... not because I can't be bothered getting up early but I'd rather not disclose the reasons on here!

Milk & Honey

It goes on your result in the entrance exam.

GeorgeOrwell

It goes on your result in the entrance exam.

Seriously? Do they split the cleverer students from the poorer ones?

The diploma students

5.45pm to 8 (Monday to Tuesday)

9.30 -12.45 (every alternate Saturday)

The Diploma is

5.45 - 8.00 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

5.45 - 9.00 Thursday

9.30 - 12.45 every other Saturday

Tom Young

Let's be very careful we don't rely on much of the above as indicative.
KI can and does modify timetables from year-to-year! Also, morning v afternoon used to be based on travel distances, family circumstances and grading.

Call them up first. Though if you've not applied to, and intend to sit the entrance exam in a given year, you may not get much by way of a definite answer.

GeorgeOrwell

What does grading mean in that context, Tom Young?

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So which is the smarter group then? Morning or afternoon?

Procrastastudy

None of them can be that smart they've all chosen to work for free for at least a year and make very little money for years after that!

(In pure jest as I have nothing but respect for Barristers - well most barristers I've been in Buck Whaleys!)

Tom Young

Milk & Honey wrote: »

It goes on your result in the entrance exam.

GeorgeOrwell wrote: »

What does grading mean in that context, Tom Young?

The grade attained in the entrance exam.

NoQuarter

Thats news to me Tom! I assume it is the morning crew that are smarter although I may be slightly biased being part of the "morning mafia" as we are known this year.

Just to be clear, the hours for the morning group are 9:00 - 10:45 and then 1:30 - 3:15. Afternoonies are 11-12:45 and then 3:30 - 5:15.

The time between classes can be work filled because there is always prepartation to be done for the coming class, usually reading a few chapters or maybe drafting something etc etc.

They also told us to ask for a certain slot only if we really needed it and I think most people made up an excuse and asked for their preferred slot (and probably got it).

At the moment and because we have about 2 months of non stop exams, regardless of the actual hours, people are working pretty much flat out on completing assignments, doing class work and studying for exams.

If only there were more hours in the day.

NoQuarter

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

None of them can be that smart they've all chosen to work for free for at least a year and make very little money for years after that!

(In pure jest as I have nothing but respect for Barristers - well most barristers I've been in Buck Whaleys!)

Its all about rocking the wig & cape!

Tom Young

NoQuarter wrote: »

Its all about rocking the wig & cape!

Gown, not cape!!

Oh, and morning groupies are sick and wrong. As sick, and as wrong as when I attended and did so in the later group.

Dining requires duvet time.

NoQuarter

Tom Young wrote: »

Gown, not cape!!

Oh, and morning groupies are sick and wrong. As sick, and as wrong as when I attended and did so in the later group.

Dining requires duvet time.

I refuse to call it such! Cape is so much cooler!

Well you have me on that one, no wonder my attendance is so poor!

GeorgeOrwell

How are you enjoying the Degree, NoQuarter?

How does it compare to the Diploma (please say it's easier; a lot easier)?

FreudianSlippers

NoQuarter wrote: »

I refuse to call it such! Cape is so much cooler!

In fairness if you have to run in on windy mornings it can be quite difficult not to hum the batman tune. :P

Tom Young

GeorgeOrwell wrote: »

How are you enjoying the Degree, NoQuarter?

How does it compare to the Diploma (please say it's easier; a lot easier)?

I wouldn't say the two courses compare really at all. The Diploma is (supposed to be) a bootcamp in substantive law (which has a very good reputation). The BL degree course is practice focussed and has elements which are just alien by comparison to the Dip.

NoQuarter

GeorgeOrwell wrote: »

How are you enjoying the Degree, NoQuarter?

How does it compare to the Diploma (please say it's easier; a lot easier)?

Absolutely love the degree, so different that your usual college, but at times (like now) there is a massive work load and we are all exhausted!

I came straight in with a degree so I cant answer about the Diploma.

johnnyskeleton

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

NoQuarter wrote: »

I refuse to call it such! Cape is so much cooler!

In fairness if you have to run in on windy mornings it can be quite difficult not to hum the batman tune. :P

I didn't know barristers ran, I thought they just walked serenely about the place. Even if in their heads they were thinking about bursting into a sprint.

nuac

trainee solicitors gallop

devils run

solicitors walk briskly

barristers proceed with expedition


In any case the advocate or budding advocate must master the art of beng in the right place at the right time without getting out of breath

Tom Young

..... and/or hanging oneself on a radiator/door/rail while moving at pace and consequential billowing gown flowing from behind.