X factor 2012 (Spoiler Free)

cgpg5

The producers could have a major dilemma on their hands next week.

A bottom 2 of Rylan and Christopher is now a possibility when you look at the contenders that are left. Now that is a tricky scenario. Send home Chris, prevent him from winning and ruining the show, whilst as a result heaping more hatred upon Rylan. How much is too much? I really think Rylan has ran his course and if he were to go next week he could leave with his head high and with a lot of respect.

Send home Rylan, emphasize the singing element, whilst guaranteeing Chris a rebound vote that will last who knows how long.

Union J will probably get a rebound vote so is their best bet to simply scrap the sing off and let the public choose who leaves? It could be their best option you know

K.Flyer

At the end of the day it often does not matter who wins. Second, Third, Forth and lesser placed finalist have gone on to have better success than the winners.
Like them or loathe them Jedward would be an example, JLS a better example.
You get the point.

AG2R

One of the lads from Union J is good enough to be solo tbh. Not sure which it is though

Da Shins Kelly

Were Union J a group from the beginning or were they put together later on?

LizT

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Were Union J a group from the beginning or were they put together later on?

They were originally a three piece and George was added in then.

gavmcg92

O_o was that girl on the toliet?

joedared

if you watch from the start again as louis is been introduced he takes a gulp. Suggestedb to me that he knew what was going to happen

Da Shins Kelly

Stumbled across this article. Dunno if any of you have heard or read about this, but really quite sad. Apparently his father was only arrested when he took a blowtorch to their mother. :eek:

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/199992-jahmene-douglas-opens-up-about-the-brother-who-saved-his-life/

Hersheys

K.Flyer wrote: »

At the end of the day it often does not matter who wins. Second, Third, Forth and lesser placed finalist have gone on to have better success than the winners.
Like them or loathe them Jedward would be an example, JLS a better example.
You get the point.

1D the best example - taken the world by storm & didn't win.

K.Flyer

Hersheys wrote: »

1D the best example - taken the world by storm & didn't win.

Exactly, and Rebbeca Ferguson was second and we see and hear more of her than that years winner Matt Cardle.

Funny enough as you mention 1 Direction, does anyone remember when Simon Cowell went backstage during bootcamp to convince Zayn Malik, to stay in the competition. This was before they even thought of putting them together as a group.

ibarelycare

The Fix Factor certainly have it in for Jahmene...I have to say, I find myself agreeing with these

Skid

ibarelycare wrote: »

The Fix Factor certainly have it in for Jahmene...I have to say, I find myself agreeing with these

I don't, I think Jahmene has been consistently good this series. They have been very harsh this time.

ibarelycare

Skid wrote: »

I don't, I think Jahmene has been consistently good this series. They have been very harsh this time.

I didn't like him at first, then I liked him for the first few shows, but now I can't stand his screeching again. His version of Listen was absolutely dire and the judges praised it so much. I listened to the start of Angels and had to forward through the rest. His warbling and over-singing is ruining him for me. He has a great voice but isn't a very good singer. I wish they'd get him to tone it down. I still think he's a lovely guy though and hope he does well out of this, just not my cup of tea at all.

LizT

I like Jahmene but I'm sick of hearing 'world class'. He's not. It's becoming repetitive now and I find myself dozing off during his performances.

raven136

I loved the "dubstep" by James

The biased comments are so predictable at this stage its beyond funny

mikeym

If Chris wins the competition its the end of X Factor.

egan2020

mikeym wrote: »

If Chris wins the competition its the end of X Factor.

Not really a fan of Chris but I don't see why it would be the end of the show if he wins.

starlit

Not surprised that the boybands went head to head was expecting it last weekend. I always thought district 3 were way better than union J during the live shows but up till the weekend, union J are a bit better I think and suited to fame at this point. Always been behind district 3 but agree with the judges!

As regards rylan still stunned he still in the show but he a good performer but his vocals could do with some work. As for Chris, I am still surprised he still in the competition, was sure rylan and chris be in the bottom two last night. I agree with the judges on chris he really only suited to something else outside of xfactor.

Heather, Jahmien and James are my top three to win it at this stage but still hard to tell! I am all for Heather and James. Loved James song last night! He has done so well!

JP Liz V1

AdElla suppose to be gone way down in voting

ibarelycare

doovdela wrote: »

Not surprised that the boybands went head to head was expecting it last weekend. I always thought district 3 were way better than union J during the live shows but up till the weekend, union J are a bit better I think and suited to fame at this point. Always been behind district 3 but agree with the judges!

As regards rylan still stunned he still in the show but he a good performer but his vocals could do with some work. As for Chris, I am still surprised he still in the competition, was sure rylan and chris be in the bottom two last night. I agree with the judges on chris he really only suited to something else outside of xfactor.

Heather, Jahmien and James are my top three to win it at this stage but still hard to tell! I am all for Heather and James. Loved James song last night! He has done so well!

Who's Heather?!

starlit

ibarelycare wrote: »

Who's Heather?!

Sorry got the name wrong - ella is it...I am very bad with names sorry!:o

JP Liz V1

mikeym wrote: »

If Chris wins the competition its the end of X Factor.

It dont matter who wins usually the runner up or other contestants do better anyways

ibarelycare

doovdela wrote: »

Sorry got the name wrong - ella is it...I am very bad with names sorry!:o

Haha I figured that's who you meant, only girl left

borderlinemeath

Just watched the results getting called out again on itv2. When they went to the break with the 3 acts remaining, Christopher and the 2 groups, they supplied all of them with microphones. If you look at the stills of Christopher getting through in this article he has a mic in his hand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2231577/X-Factor-2012-Christopher-Maloney-faces-abuse-crowd-hes-saved-public-AGAIN-The-X-Factor.html

Immediately after he got through all the boys gathered round and they all had their mics in hand as well so it seems they stuck in the extra ad break to distribute them.

I've never seen it done this way before, or am I imagining things? Would it have been that much hassle to have a couple of runners come out on stage and make sure 2 bands had microphones?

ibarelycare

borderlinemeath wrote: »

Just watched the results getting called out again on itv2. When they went to the break with the 3 acts remaining, Christopher and the 2 groups, they supplied all of them with microphones. If you look at the stills of Christopher getting through in this article he has a mic in his hand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2231577/X-Factor-2012-Christopher-Maloney-faces-abuse-crowd-hes-saved-public-AGAIN-The-X-Factor.html

Immediately after he got through all the boys gathered round and they all had their mics in hand as well so it seems they stuck in the extra ad break to distribute them.

I've never seen it done this way before, or am I imagining things? Would it have been that much hassle to have a couple of runners come out on stage and make sure 2 bands had microphones?

I imagine they did it to make it quicker and smoother. Why else would it be?

borderlinemeath

ibarelycare wrote: »

I imagine they did it to make it quicker and smoother. Why else would it be?

To completely shred the last nerve Christopher has left?

ibarelycare

borderlinemeath wrote: »

To completely shred the last nerve Christopher has left?

I think people are reading far too into things. They've done the revealing after the break thing many times over the years. It's for drama and suspense.

mikeym

egan2020 wrote: »

Not really a fan of Chris but I don't see why it would be the end of the show if he wins.

I couldnt see people buying his album and the whole point of the competition is to make loads of money for Sony Bmg/syco.

Skid

mikeym wrote: »

I couldnt see people buying his album and the whole point of the competition is to make loads of money for Sony Bmg/syco.

Most of the winners have sold feck all albums.

starlit

Its the person who will sell the most albums will win in the end of the day like! Not Chris and Rylan anyway. They good performers like but who buy their albums? Rylan another jedward like? The rest of the contestants you'd buy their album like! I know myself from last year and previous years whose music I'd download like!

Quazzie

doovdela wrote: »

Its the person who will sell the most albums will win in the end of the day like! Not Chris and Rylan anyway. They good performers like but who buy their albums? Rylan another jedward like? The rest of the contestants you'd buy their album like! I know myself from last year and previous years whose music I'd download like!

Thats a lot of likes there. Do you think this is facebook or something?

Also when you get a chance, look at the figures for Jedward's record sales.

Larianne

Quazzie wrote: »

Thats a lot of likes there. Do you think this is facebook or something?

Also when you get a chance, look at the figures for Jedward's record sales.

From Cork perhaps?

Jewards new song is pretty alright.:o

LizT

doovdela wrote: »

Its the person who will sell the most albums will win in the end of the day like! Not Chris and Rylan anyway. They good performers like but who buy their albums? Rylan another jedward like? The rest of the contestants you'd buy their album like! I know myself from last year and previous years whose music I'd download like!

That's not true at all. One Direction have easily outsold Matt, Olly has outsold Joe, JLS have outsold Alexandra...

starlit

LizT wrote: »

That's not true at all. One Direction have easily outsold Matt, Olly has outsold Joe, JLS have outsold Alexandra...

Oh ya I know what you mean, the ones that don't win often outshine the ones that do!

starlit

No not from cork, but not far from it. Can't help it, it drops into conversation a bit too much can't help it Sorry! I know jedward have done well for themselves but they perform well that's all it is. Vocally terrible like rylan. Chris more suited to karaoke and musicals neither xfactor material!

I know I meant to say the likely ones to sell a lot of albums not the most will likely win as the winner may or may not sell the most albums more than likely be the ones that be runner up or the ones that don't win. Like have we heard of matt and eh little mix since?? not much of them. One direction yes, olly murs yes, leonie lewis yes, alexandra yes and those that have been in xfactor but not won have done very well for themselves. I've my favourites! There has been those of deserving winners who win and those that don't, one direction should have won it last year but might have impacted on their success if they did! I'd listen to them and I'm a 20 something and not ashamed!

Though think xfactor are trying to win the ratings against strictly dancing but can't see it competing any more, strictly has outdone it and is a bit more exciting and better to watch, Is there really 2-3 more years of the xfactor contract in the UK?

A double boot be on the cards??

ibarelycare

doovdela wrote: »

No not from cork, but not far from it. Can't help it, it drops into conversation a bit too much can't help it Sorry! I know jedward have done well for themselves but they perform well that's all it is. Vocally terrible like rylan. Chris more suited to karaoke and musicals neither xfactor material!

I know I meant to say the likely ones to sell a lot of albums not the most will likely win as the winner may or may not sell the most albums more than likely be the ones that be runner up or the ones that don't win. Like have we heard of matt and eh little mix since?? not much of them. One direction yes, olly murs yes, leonie lewis yes, alexandra yes and those that have been in xfactor but not won have done very well for themselves. I've my favourites! There has been those of deserving winners who win and those that don't, one direction should have won it last year but might have impacted on their success if they did! I'd listen to them and I'm a 20 something and not ashamed!

Though think xfactor are trying to win the ratings against strictly dancing but can't see it competing any more, strictly has outdone it and is a bit more exciting and better to watch, Is there really 2-3 more years of the xfactor contract in the UK?

A double boot be on the cards??

Little Mix have had two number 1s and have an album coming out.

One Direction weren't last year, they were two years ago. And they didn't deserve to win over Matt or Rebecca. They've obviously done a lot better since but they weren't nearly as good or talented as either of them.

Handsome Bob

Yeah a remember a few train wrecks courtesy of 1D on X Factor (Rihanna's Only Girl In the World anyone?). Pretty sure their first live performance was pretty horrendous too.

Cowell clearly spared no expense in helping these guys make it big, finding them the perfect songs suited to them. Compare their first single to Cardle's Run For Your Life? Jesus I'm cringing just thinking of that song and video. You'd swear Cowell was trying to sabotage him. :pac:

starlit

ibarelycare wrote: »

Little Mix have had two number 1s and have an album coming out.

One Direction weren't last year, they were two years ago. And they didn't deserve to win over Matt or Rebecca. They've obviously done a lot better since but they weren't nearly as good or talented as either of them.

Oh right. I'd forgotten to be honest. Lost count when they were on xfactor, i'd remember them being on but can't remember sometimes which year!

Well good for them just haven't heard about Little Mix much since they won.

starlit

emeraldstar wrote: »

They only won last year though, right? Generally, the winning act disappears for the year after they've won, working on songs and whatever it is they're contracted to do. Then they properly arrive on the scene the following year with a new song/their first album, when X Factor is back on and in vogue again. You'll probably hear loads from them from now on.

Ya they won last year. Thought one direction was the runner up or was that a different group!? Or was that JLS1?

ah I see. But I thought Leonie, Shane and Alexandra broke into the charts as soon as they won? One Direction have been popular all year round?

emeraldstar

doovdela wrote: »

Well good for them just haven't heard about Little Mix much since they won.

It was only last year that Little Mix won it though. Generally, the winning act pretty much disappears after they've won, working on songs and whatever it is they're contracted to do. Then the following year, just as soon as X Factor is back on and in vogue and interest is at a peak again, they properly arrive on the scene with the launch of a new song/their first album. You'll probably hear loads from them from now on.

ibarelycare

doovdela wrote: »

Ya they won last year. Thought one direction was the runner up or was that a different group!? Or was that JLS1?

ah I see. But I thought Leonie, Shane and Alexandra broke into the charts as soon as they won? One Direction have been popular all year round?

One Direction were on the 2010 show. It was only around summer 2011 that they released their first single.

All winners release a single when they win. Little Mix released Cannonball last year and it got to number 1. Then they disappear for months and they usually reappear with a second single and a debut album around the time the lives shows for the next series are starting, so their promoting of their album and single coincides with the hype of X Factor being on our tellies.

Marcus Collins was the runner-up last year to Little Mix.

JLS were runners up to Alexandra Burke, way back in 2008!

starlit

Its shows who and when you forget these things if they are true stars or not. Ah is that so. Right ah I see now thanks for the reminder!

Skid

I like popjustice's ideas about an expanded judging panel next year - Louis+Nicole+Simon+Kylie+Dannii+Sharon

http://www.popjustice.com/briefing/why-kylie-should-join-the-x-factor-panel-and-what-should-also-happen-when-she-does-that/104521/

If either Kylie or Dannii won’t commit to a full series, and if six judges is too many, we’d suggest introducing a judge called MINOGUE, who could be Kylie one week, Dannii the next, as diaries permit etc. They could even switch Minogues during ad breaks on the live shows. No reference would be made to the fact that the Minogue had changed.

cgpg5

Skid wrote: »

I like popjustice's ideas about an expanded judging panel next year - Louis+Nicole+Simon+Kylie+Dannii+Sharon

http://www.popjustice.com/briefing/why-kylie-should-join-the-x-factor-panel-and-what-should-also-happen-when-she-does-that/104521/

:P

All joking aside, I think Simon is already lining up Cheryl to replace Tulisa. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen.

Nicole has surprised me actually, she's far more suited to this

Missymoohaa

cgpg5 wrote: »

:P

All joking aside, I think Simon is already lining up Cheryl to replace Tulisa. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen.

Nicole has surprised me actually, she's far more suited to this

Yes have to agree CP, Tulisa is very annoying, though if you remember when Nicole filled in for Cheryl last year she was excellent, it was just in the USA she sort of fell apart. She's great fun. Yes I'd love to see her and Cheryl paired, more of an even match I'd say. Gazza has to go, even though I love him, his heart is just not in it. Now who would you replace him with hmmmmmmmm don't think Simon will be able to commit but you never know.

ibarelycare

cgpg5 wrote: »

:P

All joking aside, I think Simon is already lining up Cheryl to replace Tulisa. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen.

Nicole has surprised me actually, she's far more suited to this

I'd be very surprised if Cheryl has anything to do with X Factor again. I doubt she'd swallow her pride and come back after how she was treated by Simon.

Although it might depend on the success of the Girls Aloud comeback

Busi_Girl08

ibarelycare wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if Cheryl has anything to do with X Factor again. I doubt she'd swallow her pride and come back after how she was treated by Simon.

Although it might depend on the success of the Girls Aloud comeback

Wasn't she Gary's right-hand person in the judges' houses?

ibarelycare

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

Wasn't she Gary's right-hand person in the judges' houses?

Uhhhh...maybe...

cgpg5

Aye a nice pay package will do her no harm either :pac:

Tulisa's on her last legs. She's not half as popular as last series and people are just getting fed up of her. She's also a rubbish singer, who's solo career is already likely to go down the drain in no time at all, so that doesn't really help her credibility as a judge on a talent show

JP Liz V1

cgpg5 wrote: »

Aye a nice pay package will do her no harm either :pac:

Tulisa's on her last legs. She's not half as popular as last series and people are just getting fed up of her. She's also a rubbish singer, who's solo career is already likely to go down the drain in no time at all, so that doesn't really help her credibility as a judge on a talent show

Tulisa is a better singer than Cheryl

The one judge that defo needs to go is Gary Borelow and the cards he reads from, get a judge with personality who can hold there own and banter themselves without use pre written cards :rolleyes:

I think Simon should defo keep Nicole and Lulu Walsh for next year