Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

Hagz

Sounds like a seriously talented bunch of players. Long may this continue!

Stanza2

But as I said, he played in this game (coming on as a sub) and I don't remember him having such an impact as young Cleary who did play really well on Sunday. Maybe the fact that he was playing in the forwards then is part of the reason.

I am not aware of his injury status this year or last and wish him nothing but the best, he is obviously talked of as a terrific talent by people who know what they are saying and he has the size to make a huge impact, I hope that he does. He is probably the most talked about underage player in Ireland.

Tox56

Judging from what people have been saying about this age group, Dardis sounds like he is the best of the bunch, seems to impress in every game he plays.

I think the fad for big centres, his surname, and Ireland's need for a 12 have conspired to make Brewer the "most talked about" underage player.

Hagz

Tox56 wrote: »

I think the fad for big centres, his surname, and Ireland's need for a 12 have conspired to make Brewer the "most talked about" underage player.

I actually think his move to centre has killed a lot of the hype. Most of his hype surrounded him when he was playing in the back-row.

Quint2010

Be interesting to see if he gets handed an academy contract when he leaves school this year. As has been said-alot of other good centres around of a similar age.

Tox56

Hagz wrote: »

I actually think his move to centre has killed a lot of the hype. Most of his hype surrounded him when he was playing in the back-row.

I don't think it killed the hype, he is talked about a lot in relation to Leinster's future options at 12. Leinster have plenty of options in the backrow, you would expect a highly talented 12 to be a bigger story than a highly talented backrower, of which there are many in Leinster at the moment.

Someone like Brewer is going to be hyped up no matter where they play.

Hagz

Tox56 wrote: »

I don't think it killed the hype, he is talked about a lot in relation to Leinster's future options at 12. Leinster have plenty of options in the backrow, you would expect a highly talented 12 to be a bigger story than a highly talented backrower, of which there are many in Leinster at the moment.

Someone like Brewer is going to be hyped up no matter where they play.

The point is, the hype train got rolling while he was playing in the back-row, and if anything it's slowed down since he's moved to the centre.

Stanza2

I don't see it slowing down, no matter where he plays. I hope that he lives up to it. It will only get bigger when the Leinster Schools Cup starts and in all likelihood Terenure win the cup

Gordon Gecko

Quint2010 wrote: »

Be interesting to see if he gets handed an academy contract when he leaves school this year. As has been said-alot of other good centres around of a similar age.

That's true but even then would love to see how he'd turn out playing a season of AIL.

JustinDee

Tox56 wrote: »

Someone like Brewer is going to be hyped up no matter where they play.

Not really, to be fair.
The most-talked about player I hear of is actually Dardis. Having seen him play, I can see where the promise is.

irishbucsfan

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

That's true but even then would love to see how he'd turn out playing a season of AIL.

Surely he'd end up playing a season of AIL even if he was in the academy? Unless he was particularly excellent and went straight into the Leinster team.

Tox56

JustinDee wrote: »

Not really, to be fair.
The most-talked about player I hear of is actually Dardis. Having seen him play, I can see where the promise is.

Dardis might be the most talked about, and he does sound like a real talent, but Brewer is inevitably going to be one of the biggest names in the cup this year.

Quint2010

Tox56 wrote: »

Dardis might be the most talked about, and he does sound like a real talent, but Brewer is inevitably going to be one of the biggest names in the cup this year.

Not if Terenure get knocked out in the first round he won't be! There will be alot of players talked about in The Cup this year-particularly Ross Byrne, James Ryan, Nick Timoney and Nick McCarthy

Tox56

Quint2010 wrote: »

Not if Terenure get knocked out in the first round he won't be! There will be alot of players talked about in The Cup this year-particularly Ross Byrne, James Ryan, Nick Timoney and Nick McCarthy

That is true, but they are favourites aren't they?

Quint2010

Tox56 wrote: »

That is true, but they are favourites aren't they?

According to Tony Ward they are but the bookies odds have yet to be released. 'Michaels have a better squad in my opinion.

Gordon Gecko

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Surely he'd end up playing a season of AIL even if he was in the academy? Unless he was particularly excellent and went straight into the Leinster team.

Well his AIL would be more limited than if not in the academy if you get me. With so much rugby to play with Leinster (B&I cup and A games etc.) I've found that academy players haven't really been playing as much AIL as I'd like to see, either through resting or injury.

Either way I really hope the myriad of talented players this year who don't go pro, keep up the rugby at 21s and then AIL.

ormond lad

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

Well his AIL would be more limited than if not in the academy if you get me. With so much rugby to play with Leinster (B&I cup and A games etc.) I've found that academy players haven't really been playing as much AIL as I'd like to see, either through resting or injury.

Either way I really hope the myriad of talented players this year who don't go pro, keep up the rugby at 21s and then AIL.

He Would still play plenty of AIL in first year of academy. Not all first yr academy players play B&I cup.
Your 2nd paragraph is the real key. All too often talented players give up the sport entirely once they leave school and dont go join a club to play AIL at u21 or senior level.

Match report here is from the connacht senior schools final

Stanza2

Well done Marist. School going from strength to strength since Winning a couple of years ago

ormond lad

Any results
yesterday
CBC Cork 12 Belvedere 12
Portadown College v Ulster Youths u17s
Castletroy v St Munchins
today
Ulster Youths v Grosvenor Grammar

upcoming fixtures
tomorrow
Glenstal v St Gerards
High School v Blackrock
Pres Bray v CUS
Saturday
Castleknock v St Marys
St Michaels u17 v Leinster u17 youths(sept 2013 youths squad)
Methody Belfast v Blackrock
Wesley v CUS
Belvedere v Castletroy
Campbell Belfast v Rockwell
St Michaels v PBC Cork
Sunday
St Munchins v Terenure

ormond lad

Any results?
Michaels beat PBC 38-8
Photo's of the game are below
http://aidantarbett.photoshelter.com/gallery/St-Michaels-SCT-V-PBC-SCT/G0000hEsUXRQTGHQ/C0000a.yEcy9brME
Castleknock beat Marys 22-5

ormond lad

Weekend results
Castleknock 22 St Marys 5
Methody Belfast 5 Blackrock 32 pics from the game
http://www.intouchrugby.com/magazine/gallery/?album=MethodistCollegeRFCIXVVAnOppositionSide
Campbell Belfast 19 Rockwell 10 pics from the game http://www.intouchrugby.com/magazine/gallery/?album=CampbellCollegeRugbyIXVVAnOppositionSide
St Michaels 38 PBC Cork 8
St Munchins 10 Terenure 16

Any other results?

ormond lad

Vinnie Murray starts thursday. Any Tips on who will qualify from this
C.U.S. v St Andrews College at Wanderers FC, 2pm
High School v De La Salle Palmerston at Terenure College, 2PM
St. Gerards v Templeogue at Seapoint RFC, 2PM
CBS Wexford v Skerries C.C at Greystones RFC, 2PM
Mount Temple v St Pats Navan at Ashbourne RFC, 2PM

breffnimartin1

Pres beat CUS 25 - 10 at Pres last friday - video here: www.youtube.com/user/breffnimartin

Thre 25 minute halfs with pres understrength (eg missing captain) three tries, tow conversions and two penos from pres vs a converted try and peno...

breffnimartin1

ormond lad wrote: »

Vinnie Murray starts thursday. Any Tips on who will qualify from this
C.U.S. v St Andrews College at Wanderers FC, 2pm
High School v De La Salle Palmerston at Terenure College, 2PM
St. Gerards v Templeogue at Seapoint RFC, 2PM
CBS Wexford v Skerries C.C at Greystones RFC, 2PM
Mount Temple v St Pats Navan at Ashbourne RFC, 2PM

In my opinion Andrews will beat CUS despite size of CUS pack, Gerards should beat Templeogue - no idea for the others.

ormond lad

List of games Setanta are shwoing is now available. the First round pick is Terenure v Belvo, with the 4 QFs, 2 Semis + Final also being shown

Paumcg1973

Who is the favourite for senior cup in munster this year ??

ormond lad

Paumcg1973 wrote: »

Who is the favourite for senior cup in munster this year ??

PBC, Crescent, Munchins going by the interpro squads back in september and games played so far will be the strongest. Rockwell should be strong considering the number of interpros they have at both 18s and 19s but havent done well in their games so far this year

Paumcg1973

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PBC, Crescent, Munchins going by the interpro squads back in september and games played so far will be the strongest. Rockwell should be strong considering the number of interpros they have at both 18s and 19s but havent done well in their games so far this year[/Quote]
I think the game between Rockwell and crescent will prob go a long way to determine one of the finalists it should be the game of the opening round!!!!

ormond lad

Paumcg1973 wrote: »

ormond lad wrote: »

PBC, Crescent, Munchins going by the interpro squads back in september and games played so far will be the strongest. Rockwell should be strong considering the number of interpros they have at both 18s and 19s but havent done well in their games so far this year

I think the game between Rockwell and crescent will prob go a long way to determine one of the finalists it should be the game of the opening round!!!!

That game should be game of opening round.
Midleton won the Mungret Cup today, beating Bandon 3-0 and now play CBC in round 1 of Senior Cup.

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

That game should be game of opening round.
Midleton won the Mungret Cup today, beating Bandon 3-0 and now play CBC in round 1 of Senior Cup.

CBC would want to be winning that one by a big score if they're going to be cup contenders this year!

ormond lad

thetruth_time wrote: »

CBC would want to be winning that one by a big score if they're going to be cup contenders this year!

You would expect Christians to when that well.
But Midleton wont be too bad. Theyd a few good players on the munster schools A side this year who were a very good side

ormond lad

Gerards beating Templeogue 17-3 in Vinnie Murray from twitter

breffnimartin1

ormond lad wrote: »

Gerards beating Templeogue 17-3 in Vinnie Murray from twitter

Like I said...

Wesley beat an understrength Pres 9 - 8 in wesley yesterday, pores trying new set up...

I'd say Wesley will easily beat Naas.

breffnimartin1

ormond lad wrote: »

Gerards beating Templeogue 17-3 in Vinnie Murray from twitter

Like I said...

Wesley beat an understrength experimental Pres in Welsey yesterday 9 - 8. (http://www.youtube.com/user/breffnimartin)

wesley should easily beat Naas in vinnie murray imo...

ormond lad

Vinnie Murray results from http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10461.php
CUS 0 v 11 St. Andrew’s College,
The High School 12 v 13 De La Salle College Churchtown,
St. Gerard’s School 48 v 3 Templeogue College,
CBS Wexford 21 v 25 Skerries CC,
Mount Temple 27 v 20 St. Patrick’s Classical Navan

ormond lad

weekend fixtures. im trying to get into Limerick for a game tomorrow. if i do which do ye think would be beter the munchins michaels, the crescent belvedere or the castletroy gerards?
tonights game
Bruff u19 v Glenstal
tomorrows games
Terenure v Methody Belfast
Wallace HS v St Marys
Castletroy v St Gerards
CBC Cork v Blackrock
Campbell v Clongowes
St Munchins v St Michaels
Rockwell v Castleknock
Crescent Comp v Belvedere

Quint2010

ormond lad wrote: »

weekend fixtures. im trying to get into Limerick for a game tomorrow. if i do which do ye think would be beter the munchins michaels, the crescent belvedere or the castletroy gerards?
tonights game
Bruff u19 v Glenstal
tomorrows games
Terenure v Methody Belfast
Wallace HS v St Marys
Castletroy v St Gerards
CBC Cork v Blackrock
Campbell v Clongowes
St Munchins v St Michaels
Rockwell v Castleknock
Crescent Comp v Belvedere

Be very interesting to see how 'Michaels get on against 'Munchins considering Terenure's narrow win against them last weekend.

frjj

ormond lad wrote: »

You would expect Christians to when that well.
But Midleton wont be too bad. Theyd a few good players on the munster schools A side this year who were a very good side

midleton aren't half as good as they were last year. were lucky to beat abbey cbs in semi final.

ormond lad

Belvedere beat Crescent by 2 points. think it was 16-14 at full time.
Belvedere were very dominant. not sure they were missing any players but crescent were missing several including greg o shea. Belvedere's defence was super in a very scrappy game, crescent went through 10+ phases at times but couldnt make anything of belvedere's defence. Crescents maul was good and they made good metres every time they used it
game wasnt helped by some of the refs decisions

Inspector Coptoor

Belvedere were missing one of their centres and started a 4th year A player at centre.
Sean Long.
Going to be an excellent player.

breffnimartin1

how did clongowes do against campbell?

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

Belvedere beat Crescent by 2 points. think it was 16-14 at full time.
Belvedere were very dominant. not sure they were missing any players but crescent were missing several including greg o shea. Belvedere's defence was super in a very scrappy game, crescent went through 10+ phases at times but couldnt make anything of belvedere's defence. Crescents maul was good and they made good metres every time they used it
game wasnt helped by some of the refs decisions

Blackrock 15 - CBC 8
Rockwell 17 - Castleknock 15.
Caught the first half of the 'rock - knock' match. Rockwell well on top, very dynamic side. Castleknock were huge and very physical but looked to struggle to live with Rockwell's tempo! A lot of changes being made by Rockwell just as I was heading away. This maybe let knock back into the game? And rock seemed to sub there stronger players like there number 8 Butler ( paddy's brother ) absolutely cracking player!! Number 7 for knock o'neill also a great player but plays more like an 8, carries a lot of ball.
Anyone at the game in cork? Sounds like a good one!

ormond lad

breffnimartin1 wrote: »

how did clongowes do against campbell?

Clongowes won 22-3
Ticket prices for cup games on link below
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10845.php

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

Clongowes won 22-3
Ticket prices for cup games on link below
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10845.php

Jesus, I better put in for the overdraft :-)

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

weekend fixtures. im trying to get into Limerick for a game tomorrow. if i do which do ye think would be beter the munchins michaels, the crescent belvedere or the castletroy gerards?
tonights game
Bruff u19 v Glenstal
tomorrows games
Terenure v Methody Belfast
Wallace HS v St Marys
Castletroy v St Gerards
CBC Cork v Blackrock
Campbell v Clongowes
St Munchins v St Michaels
Rockwell v Castleknock
Crescent Comp v Belvedere

Any other results from these games?

the baby bull elephant

thetruth_time wrote: »

Any other results from these games?

Wallace 10 Marys 26

breffnimartin1

ormond lad wrote: »

Clongowes won 22-3
Ticket prices for cup games on link below
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10845.php

wow gerards and andrews beat campbell early on....i wonder what clongowes team that was?

thetruth_time

breffnimartin1 wrote: »

wow gerards and andrews beat campbell early on....i wonder what clongowes team that was?

Gerard's and Andrews beat Campbell in September when Campbell would have had a lot of players involved with ulster. So not really a true reflection.

ormond lad

Big win in the Leinster Senior Development final for Wexford CBS against Ratoath College that was played today in Donnybrook
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10461.php
Tomorrows friendly fixtures
Pres Bray v Clongowes
Gonzaga v Sandford Park

Vinnie Murphy games set for thursday.
Naas CBS v Wesley College
Mount Temple v Newpark Comprehensive
St Gerards v Skerries C C
St Andrews College v De La Salle Churchtown

ormond lad

CBC Cork beat Midleton 48-3 in Munster Senior Cup 1st round