Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

rugbyfan2012

number 17 is David Molloy from Pres Bray, 4th year

schools rugby

Anyone have the line up with the schools involved ? Dont know all the schools represented from the pictures

opinionatedfan

What we have so far

1. Harry Redmond(Michaels)
2. Jack Hutchinson(Belvo)
3.
4. Jack Dwan(Blackrock)
5. Rob Lalor(Terenure)
6. Max Deegan(St. Michaels)
7. Willie Connors(Clongowes)
8. Greg Jones(Andrews)
9.
10. Tommy Whittle(Gerrards)
11. Nathan Delahunt(Newbridge)
12. Jake Howlett(Newbridge)
13. James Lappin(Clongowes)
14. Terry Kennedy(Marys)
15. Cillian Burke(Clongowes)
16. Hugo Kean(Balckrock)
17. David Molloy(Pres Bray)
18. Martin Mulhall(Kilkenny)
19.
20.
21.
22.
23. Jack Power(Blackrock)

One of the scrumhalf was Ben Mahon from CBC Monkstown

Hagz

Replacement TH is Martin Mulhall (Kilkenny), also, I'm fairly sure the hooker is not Damien Butler.

Gordon Gecko

Hagz wrote: »

Replacement TH is Martin Mulhall (Kilkenny), also, I'm fairly sure the hooker is not Damien Butler.

My brah tells me it's Jack Hutchinson from Belvo

opinionatedfan

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

My brah tells me it's Jack Hutchinson from Belvo

He was the sub hooker for Belvo against Nure, so i guess it makes sense.

Hagz

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

My brah tells me it's Jack Hutchinson from Belvo

Yeh, that's right.

ormond lad

Munster schools and 19s squads will be announced in next week or two.
Munster schools play Crescent Comp SCT tomorrow in the Comp

opinionatedfan

I don't know how good a player Robbie Collins is, but Leinster should certainly have a long look at him to see if there is a potential player in that 6'9 frame

Quint2010

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Thanks,would be nice if he shot up another few inches before he stops growing.

Same goes for James Ryan, he is about 6'5 aswell.

James Ryan is taller. At least 6' 6". He'll be back in the team in September.

stellenbosch

lurtz wrote: »

Jack Dwan is such a unit. This has the makings of a good team,always great to have new faces involved,especially lads like Butler who impressed hugely in the cup

He is and is a great player but from what i have heard he IS NOT U18 and will be playing in an U19 final trial next Sat somewhere in Dublin. Dont know what he was doing there yesterday TBH. Leinster guys must have been casting an eye over him. He was injured for most of the season and did not play any Rep rugby yet although clearly has the talent to do so.

Creeby

opinionatedfan wrote: »

What we have so far

1. Harry Redmond(Michaels)
2. Jack Hutchinson(Belvo)
3.
4. Jack Dwan(Blackrock)
5. Rob Lalor(Terenure)
6. Max Deegan(St. Michaels)
7. Willie Connors(Clongowes)
8. Greg Jones(Andrews)
9.
10. Tommy Whittle(Gerrards)
11. Nathan Delahunt(Newbridge)
12. Jake Howlett(Newbridge)
13. James Lappin(Clongowes)
14. Terry Kennedy(Marys)
15. Cillian Burke(Clongowes)
16. Hugo Kean(Balckrock)
17. David Molloy(Pres Bray)
18. Martin Mulhall(Kilkenny)
19.
20.
21.
22.
23. Jack Power(Blackrock)

One of the scrumhalf was Ben Mahon from CBC Monkstown

19. was Tom Treacy (Newbridge) and Jimmy O'Brien, the sub OH was also in there somewhere. The numbers on the backs seem to be a bit all over the place

the baby bull elephant

One of the scrumhalfs was Mark Fogarty from Marys.

ormond lad

Munster Schools are playing a school from Wales today. 56 players in extended squad and half are in the squad playing today with the other 28 playing the Munster Youths Wednesday week
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/11774.php

ormond lad

Irish 19s team for tomorrows game against France has been named. 6 changes to team that started the game against England
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/28890.php

15 - David Johnston (UL Bohemians/Munster)
14 - Ross Adair (Queen's University/Ulster)
13 - Rory O'Loughlin (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
12 - Peter Robb (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
11 - Cian Kelleher (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
10 - Rory Parata (Rockwell College/Connacht)
9 - Caolin Blade (Monivea/Connacht)
1 - Jacob Walshe (CC Roscrea/Connacht)
2 - Shane Delahunt (Kilkenny College/Leinster)
3 - Rory Burke (CBC Cork/Munster)
4 - Sean O'Brien (CC Roscrea/Connacht) (capt)
5 - Ross Molony (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
6 - Ben Alexander (Queen's University/Ulster)
7 - Jack O'Neill (Castleknock College/Leinster)
8 - Jack O'Donoghue (UL Bohemians/Munster)

Replacements:

16 - Max Abbott (PBC Cork/Munster)
17 - Ross Kane (Methodist College/Ulster)
18 - Saba Meunargia (Marist College/Connacht)
19 - Darragh Moloney (CBC Cork/Munster)
20 - Joe Bercis (Bedford Blues/Exile)
21 - Ryan Foley (CBC Cork/Munster)
22 - Conor McKeon (Gonzaga College/Leinster)
23 - Ian Fitzpatrick (King's Hospital/Leinster)

FellasFellas

ormond lad wrote: »

Irish 19s team for tomorrows game against France has been named. 6 changes to team that started the game against England
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/28890.php

15 - David Johnston (UL Bohemians/Munster)
14 - Ross Adair (Queen's University/Ulster)
13 - Rory O'Loughlin (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
12 - Peter Robb (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
11 - Cian Kelleher (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
10 - Rory Parata (Rockwell College/Connacht)
9 - Caolin Blade (Monivea/Connacht)
1 - Jacob Walshe (CC Roscrea/Connacht)
2 - Shane Delahunt (Kilkenny College/Leinster)
3 - Rory Burke (CBC Cork/Munster)
4 - Sean O'Brien (CC Roscrea/Connacht) (capt)
5 - Ross Molony (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
6 - Ben Alexander (Queen's University/Ulster)
7 - Jack O'Neill (Castleknock College/Leinster)
8 - Jack O'Donoghue (UL Bohemians/Munster)

Replacements:

16 - Max Abbott (PBC Cork/Munster)
17 - Ross Kane (Methodist College/Ulster)
18 - Saba Meunargia (Marist College/Connacht)
19 - Darragh Moloney (CBC Cork/Munster)
20 - Joe Bercis (Bedford Blues/Exile)
21 - Ryan Foley (CBC Cork/Munster)
22 - Conor McKeon (Gonzaga College/Leinster)
23 - Ian Fitzpatrick (King's Hospital/Leinster)

Good to see squad rotation. Hope Delahunt has a good game at 2, very gifted player and can play across the front row. Parata is good, not better than McKeon but still good to see him getting a run.

Leinster5

FellasFellas wrote: »

Good to see squad rotation. Hope Delahunt has a good game at 2, very gifted player and can play across the front row. Parata is good, not better than McKeon but still good to see him getting a run.

Don't agree with you on Delahunt at hooker. Just isn't of the hooker mould and also his throwing wasn't that impressive. I think that Irish team have a fairly weak front row and I'm shocked they didn't scout more players from this years Senior Cup, especially with so many talented props and hookers on show. Dropping McKeon makes little sense as well. Very tidy out-half in my opinion, was just lacking game time.

ormond lad

Leinster5 wrote: »

Don't agree with you on Delahunt at hooker. Just isn't of the hooker mould and also his throwing wasn't that impressive. I think that Irish team have a fairly weak front row and I'm shocked they didn't scout more players from this years Senior Cup, especially with so many talented props and hookers on show. Dropping McKeon makes little sense as well. Very tidy out-half in my opinion, was just lacking game time.

Disagree Dealhunt is fine at hooker. Throwing has been fine from what ive seen of him playing 2
Parata is a good player and will be fine at 10. They've only 2 games so it gives Parata a chance to start after subbing behind McKeon on Wednesday.
No need to "scout" more from the senior cup. Squad is primarily based on the interpro series and unless you preform exceptionally with your club in top youths competitions/school in the schools cup you will not make the squad

lurtz

Leinster5 wrote: »

Don't agree with you on Delahunt at hooker. Just isn't of the hooker mould and also his throwing wasn't that impressive. I think that Irish team have a fairly weak front row and I'm shocked they didn't scout more players from this years Senior Cup, especially with so many talented props and hookers on show. Dropping McKeon makes little sense as well. Very tidy out-half in my opinion, was just lacking game time.

Jesus he only switched there a few months back give him some time,he works very hard on his throwing with john fogarty,hes not going to be throwing darts like mealamu immediately you know. Mckeon was rotated not dropped,having a look at all options available is a great idea when you have the depth to do so

Hagz

No update? Can't find anything online...

ormond lad

Irish 19s lost 20-14 to France.

the baby bull elephant

Amazing that there won't be a Leinster white team this year.

ormond lad

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Amazing that there won't be a Leinster white team this year.

Lasted 2 seasons longer than Munster and Ulster did with 2 19s sides. Shame means 26-30 lads will miss out on representative rugby next season.
Pity as when all the provinces but Connacht fielded 2 19s sides it worked out well as there was 8 under 19 interpro sides with the exiles and Connacht fielding 1 side apiece.

specttator

Is this widely known? i hadn't heard this until i read this post.

the baby bull elephant

specttator wrote: »

Is this widely known? i hadn't heard this until i read this post.

I've had it from guys doing trials. They've said it's only for one team.

stellenbosch

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

I've had it from guys doing trials. They've said it's only for one team.

That is correct and is what I have also heard

Hagz

Still no report on the France game...

opinionatedfan

Hagz wrote: »

Still no report on the France game...

they don't seem to like to report on a loss.

FellasFellas

opinionatedfan wrote: »

they don't seem to like to report on a loss.

Vinny Hammond told me that the game was brutal. Neither team played well, dreadfully stop start. Said Parata was alright. Delahunt was good afaik.

ormond lad

Interesting results from the 4 games the English Independent Schools played over the past few days
Independent schools 59 Leinster Youths 17
Independent schools 13 Leinster Schools 11
Independent schools 52 Connacht 18s 7
Independent schools 20 Ulster Schools 13

lurtz

very successful werent they!

FrannoFan

lurtz wrote: »

very successful werent they!

what was there side made from?"independent schools" does that mean their schools teams minus academy players etc?
they have such a massive pool of playing talent to chose from.

Gordon Gecko

FrannoFan wrote: »

what was there side made from?"independent schools" does that mean their schools teams minus academy players etc?
they have such a massive pool of playing talent to chose from.

Independent schools are private schools.

ormond lad

FrannoFan wrote: »

what was there side made from?"independent schools" does that mean their schools teams minus academy players etc?
they have such a massive pool of playing talent to chose from.

Its players who attend "independent schools" which are private schools like Eton, Harrow etc
Not schools players minus academy players

BigHeel

ormond lad wrote: »

Interesting results from the 4 games the English Independent Schools played over the past few days
Independent schools 59 Leinster Youths 17
Independent schools 13 Leinster Schools 11
Independent schools 52 Connacht 18s 7
Independent schools 20 Ulster Schools 13

Interesting results yes but you must remember that the Lambs were U18 this season where as the Irish teams were next years U18s

backgreen

with all the talent they never seem to do much with it...

ormond lad

backgreen wrote: »

with all the talent they never seem to do much with it...

????

lurtz

backgreen wrote: »

with all the talent they never seem to do much with it...

england you mean?

opinionatedfan

BigHeel wrote: »

Interesting results yes but you must remember that the Lambs were U18 this season where as the Irish teams were next years U18s

Didn't realise that, Leinster u18 were missing their best player aswell in James Ryan.

stellenbosch

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Didn't realise that, Leinster u18 were missing their best player aswell in James Ryan.

...and Oisin O'Meara from STM who is out injured and who will defo be in this team..

matTNT

Have you guys heard of a guy called James Maxwell, tighthead prop with a promising future I reckon. I hope he makes sub academy for Munster. (Rockwell player this season)

ormond lad

matTNT wrote: »

Have you guys heard of a guy called James Maxwell, tighthead prop with a promising future I reckon. I hope he makes sub academy for Munster. (Rockwell player this season)

Good player. will be involved with Munster 20s next season. He may make sub academy. what club will he be playing with next season?

matTNT

ormond lad wrote: »

Good player. will be involved with Munster 20s next season. He may make sub academy. what club will he be playing with next season?

No idea yet. Offers are coming in for him though it depends what Uni he gets into I suppose, he should have been involved with Munster and Ireland 19s from what I can see this season. No idea why he wasn't.

ormond lad

matTNT wrote: »

No idea yet. Offers are coming in for him though it depends what Uni he gets into I suppose, he should have been involved with Munster and Ireland 19s from what I can see this season. No idea why he wasn't.

well he had been in the initial extended Munster 19s squad last season and just couldn't make the side. see here
Not so sure he should have but he has a very good chance of playing 20s in September.

matTNT

ormond lad wrote: »

well he had been in the initial extended Munster 19s squad last season and just couldn't make the side. see here
Not so sure he should have but he has a very good chance of playing 20s in September.

He's better than other Munster tighthead's in that squad. The Irish 19s lad isn't the best either.

ormond lad

Leinster 19s trial game in Merrion Road tomorrow.
Munster Schools play Munster Youths in Wilton Cork next wednesday

stellenbosch

ormond lad wrote: »

Leinster 19s trial game in Merrion Road tomorrow.
Munster Schools play Munster Youths in Wilton Cork next wednesday

I heard it was Belvo but could have been changed..none of the Leinster players who played with the Irish schools will be playing i heard...

Quint2010

stellenbosch wrote: »

I heard it was Belvo but could have been changed..none of the Leinster players who played with the Irish schools will be playing i heard...

Whats the point in having the trial so?

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

Whats the point in having the trial so?

To look at more players who were not in the system. Bigger base to pick the squad.
Those who played irish schools this year will prob dominate 19s squad but this trial game is to give more of those who didn't make the irish schools squad a chance to impress the 19s coaches

the baby bull elephant

Think Hugo Diepman could be an unknown to get into the squad.