Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

fox_1973 wrote: »

Leinster u19 18 - Connacht 15

Unfortuanetly, I never made it to the game .....but from talking to guys at it, it was a very close affair, Connacht leading for most of the game and missing a penalty in the dying minutes to equalise, Leinster scored two tries Stephan O' Neill with one of them and not sure yet who the other scorer was (Ormond Lad, Im trying to find out how Sam Sterling played)

Good win for Leinster. Interpro game in few weeks will be very good. If you can find anything on how S Sterling did it'd be great

BigHeel wrote: »

The youths won it well. It became very scrappy towards the end as it was well won. Think the final score was 30-15.

Good win for youths against a side a year older. Is the leinster 19s white side up online anywhere? as the 19s white and u18 schools teams were not named on the leinster website yesterday with the other leinster sides

Great win for them, I know the whites are finding it hard to get a few games before the pros, would love to see the team sheet cos there's a few big names there

Vanilla_Ice

How old are the people posting in this thread? Imo its really creepy if you're more than five years out of school and yet you keep a watchful eye on the training and progress of 17 and 18 y/o school boys

Hagz

Vanilla_Ice wrote: »

How old are the people posting in this thread? Imo its really creepy if you're more than five years out of school and yet you keep a watchful eye on the training and progress of 17 and 18 y/o school boys

Phew, just made it!

As for all you other dust bags, you should be ashamed!

Vanilla_Ice

Hagz wrote: »

Phew, just made it!

As for all you other dust bags, you should be ashamed!

By no means suggesting one shouldnt show support for one's alma mater when it comes to cup time, but the obsession most posters seem to have with these tournaments is odd, especially if these posters are long out of the schools system.

.ak

People are bound to have an interest in future hopefuls of the sport.

And if you ask certain people a schools game with everything to play for can be far more entertaining than an international match.

You'd also have to consider the amount of posters here that would have connections to clubs, schools, coaching, following form and whatnot.

Frankly what I would have an issue with is anyone trying to tar all the posters here as 'creepy' without knowing their involvement with the game.

Tox56

If you think this is creepy, you would hate college sports in the US

ormond lad

fox_1973 wrote: »

Leinster u19 18 - Connacht 15

Unfortuanetly, I never made it to the game .....but from talking to guys at it, it was a very close affair, Connacht leading for most of the game and missing a penalty in the dying minutes to equalise, Leinster scored two tries Stephan O' Neill with one of them and not sure yet who the other scorer was (Ormond Lad, Im trying to find out how Sam Sterling played)

Match report is up on leinster rugby now
www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10222

Quint2010

Are Leinster schools playing today?

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

Are Leinster schools playing today?

they were i think.
Michael Corcoran(@lemachine) tweeted this afternoon
Watching the #LeinsterU18 play in Donnybrook, without bias or cliche few prospects at 6,12,13 & 15. What's new.

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

Munster u18 schools play London Irish Amatuer u18s sunday in Sunbury
Munster U18 Schools Squad: (Forwards) Liam O'Connor, Sean McNulty, Luke O'Halloran, Mike O'Donnell, Liam McMahon, Denis O'Connell, Frank Bradshaw Ryan, Dylan Lane, Stephen McCarthy, Morgan Carey, David St. Ledger, Ben Kilkenny, Jack Boland, Cormac Blake. (Backs) Ben Riley, Ed Barry, Gearoid Lyons, Conor Flanagan, Steve McMahon, Edward O'Keefe, Thomas Quinlan, Robbie Deegan, JJ O'Neill, Greg O'Shea, Aidan Moynihan, Stephen Fitzgerald
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10710

Munster won 40-31

Vanilla_Ice

.ak wrote: »

Frankly what I would have an issue with is anyone trying to tar all the posters here as 'creepy' without knowing their involvement with the game.

I only bring it up because im in the leinster underage set up myself and ive seen my name pop up a few times.

.ak

Vanilla_Ice wrote: »

I only bring it up because im in the leinster underage set up myself and ive seen my name pop up a few times.

That's fine. In fact, myself, the other mods, the c-mods and the admin have already discussed the issue of discussing players in the underage setup.

Let me be on the record for saying that any and all discussion of underage players is currently heavily moderated - and not just on this forum - for obvious reasons.

Any unfair comments - in either a negative or positive - regarding underage players will be deleted from any threads. We haven't made much noise on this but you can be assured that is the case.

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profitius

Vanilla_Ice wrote: »

How old are the people posting in this thread? Imo its really creepy if you're more than five years out of school and yet you keep a watchful eye on the training and progress of 17 and 18 y/o school boys

Are coaches "creepy" too? How about school teachers? Parents?`

justsomebloke

Ok back on topic please.

ormond lad

ulster u19s played northamptons academy yesterday with northampton winning 54-5 http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/rugby/match/6365.php

the northampton side was fairly close to the side that leinsters 19s beat 30-27 almost 2 weeks ago

profitius

ormond lad wrote: »

ulster u19s played northamptons academy yesterday with northampton winning 54-5 http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/rugby/match/6365.php

the northampton side was fairly close to the side that leinsters 19s beat 30-27 almost 2 weeks ago

Is it fair to say the English sides would have a physical advantage in terms of being in their academies from a fairly early age?

ormond lad

profitius wrote: »

Is it fair to say the English sides would have a physical advantage in terms of being in their academies from a fairly early age?

In many cases yes but the difference isnt as big as it had been a couple of years ago

Leinster have all their interpro fixtures up online now
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10239.php

ormond lad

Munster 19s play Connacht in st senans rfc tomorrow at 6.30pm
Munster XV: David Johnston (Rockwell College), Cillian Ansbro (Youghal), Dan Goggin (St.Munchins College), Ned Hodson (Midleton), Ronan McKenna (Ard Scoil Ris), Shane Airey (St. Munchins College) (Vice Captain), Ryan Foley (Christian Brothers College), Charlie Slowey (Christian Brothers College), Ben Burns (Castletroy College), Rory Burke (Christian Brothers College), Patrick Kearns (Ard Scoil Ris), Darragh Moloney (Christian Brothers College), Diarmuid Dee (Christian Brothers College), Sonny Dwyer (Rockwell College) (Captain), Lee Nicholas (St. Munchins College). Replacements: Aaron Atkinson (Garryowen), Greg Barry (Crescent College Comprehensive), Liam Cronin (Castletroy College), Jack Dinneen (Crescent College Comprehensive), Conor Glynn (Ard Scoil Ris), Seamus Keating (Dungarvan), JJ McDonnell (Castletroy College), Cormac O’Donnell (St. Munchins College), Killian O’Keeffe (Crosshaven), Oisin O’Meara (Kilfeacle), Tom Ryan (Glenstal Abbey School), Aidan Slattery (Presentation Brothers College), Stephen Dalton (Exiles).

Connacht: (Forwards) Joe Bercis, Paul O’Donnell, Scott Flanagan, Saba Meunargia, Diarmuid O’Dowd-Hill, Shane Boyle, Sam McCormack, Eddie Connell, Jacob Walsh, Ross Mooney, Dan McArdle, Cormac Keane, Daragh Foley, Eoin Morrissey, Paul Hackett, James O’Hehir.
(Backs) Robbie Mullen, Reuben Pepperhobbs, Eoghan O’Reilly, Andrew McAleer, Matthew Mellotte, Ben Carty, Caolan Blade, Dylan McGagh, Ian Costigan, Dylan Carpentar, Rory Paratta, Aidan Butler, Colm Egan.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10749.php
surprised there isnt more youths players starting for munster
there is a couple of players from munster now with connacht; dylan mcgagh, rory parata

match report from some of connachts u18 warm up game v exiles is below
http://domestic.connachtrugby.ie/201208292279/exile-u18-22-connacht-u18-17

ormond lad

mrpdap wrote: »

Interesting piece on the back page of d'Echo re changes to Munster Senior Cup from 13/14 season.
Players will have to have been enrolled for at least one school year before they are eligible to play in The Cup.
May prevent schools enticing players in but unfair to a player who changes school of his own accord.

schools in uproar about it according to piece in examiner today http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/munster-schools-in-revolt-205989.html
really dont feel for the schools at all. they actually whinge in the article that it resticts kids from playing which is quite hypocritical when they already do that by making such big panels and stopping kids on the fringes of tthse panels play for their clubs

ormond lad

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10242.php
leinster 19s whites beat DLSP 21s yesterday 34-5
of the names of scorers only recognise 1, jack feeney who converted a couple of the trys. he's a 10 from roscrea rfc. havent seen him play much but from what i remember he has a very good boot of the ball and excellant deadball kicker

profitius

The schools and Munster clash.

Munster schools in revolt
By Simon Lewis
Friday, August 31, 2012
Munster Rugby could be set for a legal battle over plans to introduce a one-year qualifying period before newly enrolled students can play in the Munster Schools Senior Cup.
Following a new motion brought in by the Munster Branch Age Grade committee this month, players transferring from one school to another will, from the 2013-14 school year, be unable to compete for their new school in the Munster Senior Schools Cup for a year after enrolling.

The threat of legal action against the motion comes following a summer of wrangling between schools, rugby clubs and the Munster Branch itself over player eligibility in the province’s most prestigious underage competition.

........ http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/munster-schools-in-revolt-205989.html

ormond lad

profitius wrote: »

The schools and Munster clash.

this is really to stop the likes of rockwell who have been taking several players from east munster and munster youths squads for the past few years.
for example rockwell had several players in their 22 for the senior cup final last march who only joined the school the previous september or later in the school year after being noticed playing for east munster u17 development squad or the munster youths
Cillian Kiely, Steve McMahon, Dylan McGagh all started on the rockwell senior cup team in 2012 after joining the school the previous september and there was another few who subbed in the final or played in earlier rounds of the cup who had only joined the school the prev september.
will be interesting to see how this plays out

I agree with this rule to an extent. the schools cant be allowed pick 40+ players and not release some to play clubs rugby while at the same time going to the clubs and taking some of the better players.

profitius

ormond lad wrote: »

this is really to stop the likes of rockwell who have been taking several players from east munster and munster youths squads for the past few years.
for example rockwell had several players in their 22 for the senior cup final last march who only joined the school the previous september or later in the school year after being noticed playing for east munster u17 development squad or the munster youths
Cillian Kiely, Steve McMahon, Dylan McGagh all started on the rockwell senior cup team in 2012 after joining the school the previous september and there was another few who subbed in the final or played in earlier rounds of the cup who had only joined the school the prev september.
will be interesting to see how this plays out

I agree with this rule to an extent. the schools cant be allowed pick 40+ players and not release some to play clubs rugby while at the same time going to the clubs and taking some of the better players.

Indeed. Things are weighed too heavily towards the schools at the moment.

On the positive side, they help scout some of the best underage players.

ormond lad

profitius wrote: »

Indeed. Things are weighed too heavily towards the schools at the moment.

On the positive side, they help scout some of the best underage players.

The coaching for many kids is as good in clubs in many ways. the biggest thing the schools have is that their games are publicised more, there is v few games in competition and at every game the whole munster development staff, and some academy staff are there watching. the only youths rugby games that get the same attention are the regional development games and those squads dont contain all the best youths rugby players

ormond lad

Anyone going to the interpros this week? How do people see them going?

friendlies between the schools have started
Blackrocks senior cup team played Blackrocks club u21 side yesterday.

rugbyman2015

ormond lad wrote: »

Anyone going to the interpros this week? How do people see them going?

friendlies between the schools have started
Blackrocks senior cup team played Blackrocks club u21 side yesterday.

Any idea how Rock got on in that game?

ormond lad

rugbyman2015 wrote: »

Any idea how Rock got on in that game?

sorry no idea. havent seen a result to the game

Quint2010

LEINSTER SCHOOLS (UNDER-18): 15: Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
14: Cormac Brennan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
13: Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
12: Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
11: James McCormack (Castleknock College)
10: Ross Byrne (St. Michael's College)
9: Nick McCarthy (St. Michael's College) CAPTAIN
1: Oisin Heffernan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
2: Graham Reynolds (The Kings Hospital)
3: Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
4: David O'Connor (Blackrock College)
5: Rory Moloney (Cistercian College Roscrea) LEADER
6: Josh Murphy (St. Michael's College)
7: Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
8: Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
17: Eric O'Sullivan (Templeogue College)
18: Hugh O'Donnell (Newbridge College)
19: James Ryan (St. Michael's College)
20: Alex Penny (St. Michael's College)
21: Tim Schmidt (Terenure College)
22: Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
23: Andy Marks (Gonzaga College SJ)

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

LEINSTER SCHOOLS (UNDER-18): 15: Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
14: Cormac Brennan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
13: Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
12: Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
11: James McCormack (Castleknock College)
10: Ross Byrne (St. Michael's College)
9: Nick McCarthy (St. Michael's College) CAPTAIN
1: Oisin Heffernan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
2: Graham Reynolds (The Kings Hospital)
3: Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
4: David O'Connor (Blackrock College)
5: Rory Moloney (Cistercian College Roscrea) LEADER
6: Josh Murphy (St. Michael's College)
7: Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
8: Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
17: Eric O'Sullivan (Templeogue College)
18: Hugh O'Donnell (Newbridge College)
19: James Ryan (St. Michael's College)
20: Alex Penny (St. Michael's College)
21: Tim Schmidt (Terenure College)
22: Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
23: Andy Marks (Gonzaga College SJ)

Interesting to see how they get on. will def try and go to their game in thomond wednesday week
the outside centre fergal clearly is a v good player. was an irish youth last march/april
will be interesting to see that centre partnership
apart from those 2 mainly want to see how no 7, 15 and 21 get on

Quint2010

ormond lad wrote: »

Interesting to see how they get on. will def try and go to their game in thomond wednesday week
the outside centre fergal clearly is a v good player. was an irish youth last march/april
will be interesting to see that centre partnership
apart from those 2 mainly want to see how no 7, 15 and 21 get on

Didn't know you were a 'Nure man Ormond!

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

Didn't know you were a 'Nure man Ormond!

ha ha. thanks for pointing that out . apart from clongowes irish youths player at 13 theyre the names that really stand out to me
connachts u18 side's been named for wednesdays game v munster in cork
http://domestic.connachtrugby.ie/201209032281/

ormond lad

Ulsters u18 schools team to play leinster tomorrow has been named. from here
15. Jack Owens (Campbell College)
14. Rudolph Benade (Methodist College)
13. John McClure (RBAI)
12. Rory Bell (RBAI)
11. Rory Campbell (RBAI)
10. Conor Shiels (Coleraine AI)
9. Josh Fullerton (Campbell College)
1. Michael Lagan (Methodist College)
2. Max Montgomery (Bangor GS)
3. Aaron Gilkinson (Wallace HS)
4. Lewis Benson (Belfast HS)
5. Thomas Donnan (Down HS)
6. Daniel Dass (BRA)
7. Andrew McGrath (RBAI)
8. Daryl Morton (Captain, RS Armagh)
Replacements:
16. Andrew Shaw (Bangor GS)
17. Rory Squires (Limavady GS)
18. Conor McIlmurray (Campbell College)
19. Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
20. Calvin Kernohan (Ballymena Academy)
21. Peter Kidd (Coleraine AI)
22. Jack Milligan (RS Dungannon)
23. Connor McKee (Methodist College)
Traveling Reserve:
James Gallagher (Methodist College)

ormond lad

Teams for tomorrows 18s schools interpro in cork http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10764
Munster: Ben Riley (Rockwell College); Cormac Blake (Crescent Comprehensive), Jack Boland (Glenstal Abbey), Ben Kilkenny (St. Munchin’s), David St Ledger (Presentation Brothers College); Morgan Carey (Presentation Brothers College), Stephen McCarthy (Presentation Brothers College); Liam O’Connor (Christian Brothers College), Sean McNulty (Rockwell College), Luke O’Halloran (St. Munchin’s College); Mike O’Donnell (Crescent Comprehensive), Liam McMahon (Crescent Comprehensive); Denis O’Connell (Rockwell College), Frank Bradshaw Ryan (Ard Scoil Ris), Dylan Lane (Presentation Brothers College).
Replacements: Ed Barry (Crescent Comprehensive), Gearoid Lyons (Crescent Comprehensive), Conor Flanagan (Presentation Brothers College), Steve McMahon (Rockwell College), Edward O’Keeffe (St. Munchin’s College), Thomas Quinlan (Christian Brothers College), Robbie Deegan (Ard Scoil Ris), J.J. O’Neill (Crescent Comprehensive), Greg O’Shea (Crescent Comprehensive), Aidan Moynihan (Rockwell College), Stephen Fitzgerald Ard Scoil Ris)

Connacht: Cathal Evans (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway); Finn Stoneman (Coláiste Éinde, Galway), Conor Lowndes (Coláiste Iognáid, Galway), Dwayne Corcoran (Rice College, Westport), Paddy Glavey (Glenstal Abbey); Sean Tobin (Rice College, Westport), Jason Mitchell (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway); Conor Kyne (Coláiste Chroí Mhuire. Spiddal), Pat O'Toole (Sancta Maria College, Louisburgh), Craig Hansbury (Calasanctius College, Oranmore); Aaron Broderick (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway), Peter Claffey (Portumna Community School); Evan Galvin (Marist College, Athlone), Kevin Hastings (Scoil Muire agus Padraig, Swinford), Jack Codyre (Garbally College, Ballinasloe). Replacements: Ciaran Gavin (Cistercian College Roscrea), Colin Joyce (St Joseph's Patrician College, Galway), Cathal Laheen (Holy Rosary College, Mountbellew), Rory Murphy (Ballinrobe Community School), Mark Kelly (Cistercian College Roscrea), Colin Keane (Presentation College, Headford), Sean Doyle (Moate Community School), Harry Hughes (Marist College, Athlone), Sean Dempsey (Marist College, Athlone).

james flannery

surely ross bailey-kearney has not been excluded from this squad?

ormond lad

Leinster u18 schools beating Ulster u18 schools 33-5 at halftime.
Munster u18 schools beating connacht u18s 13-6 at halftime

ormond lad

Munster beat Connacht 23-15 in u18 schools. havent seen result from leinster game yet

Hagz

PICS
http://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/1209042/

ormond lad

I had heard Ulster were not great at u18 schools level this year so this scoreline could easily be true
ive seen a tweet or two that said the final score in todays leinster ulster interpro was an 85-6 win for leinster:eek:

Tox56

Hopefully that's a sign of a good batch of Leinster players

ormond lad

Tox56 wrote: »

Hopefully that's a sign of a good batch of Leinster players

result was act 68-5
Match report up now
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10253.php

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

result was act 68-5
Match report up now
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10253.php

Was at the game today and it was a fine display by Leinster, some lovely moves with the usual suspects all having a good game, but in saying that Ulster really were not up to the standard they should of been, a bit sloppy at times, and giving away far too much ball but all in all looking forward to seeing the U18's again

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

Munster beat Connacht 23-15 in u18 schools. havent seen result from leinster game yet

Match report from this game http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10774

Quint2010

Holy God-68-5? Noel McNamara-isn't he the 'Michaels coach behind their recent success? Must be destined for greater things at this stage? There seems to be quite an even spread of representation in terms of schools on the '18's and '19's Leinster teams this year. Augers well for a very competitive cup!

ormond lad

Quint2010 wrote: »

Holy God-68-5? Noel McNamara-isn't he the 'Michaels coach behind their recent success? Must be destined for greater things at this stage? There seems to be quite an even spread of representation in terms of schools on the '18's and '19's Leinster teams this year. Augers well for a very competitive cup!

Good even spread of players between the schools in 18s squad. there's also a few roscrea players in connacht squads
some of the schools friendly fixtures are up online now. terenure play michaels before the end of this month. both michaels/'nure have some of their fixtures for SC up online

ormond lad

Ulsters 19s team to play Munsters 19s on saturday at 4pm in ravenhill
http://www.intouchrugby.com/ulster u19 squad for munster
15 Lorcan McGillian Malone RFC
14 Neil Burns Foyle and Londonderry College
13 Jordan Grattan Wallace High School
12 Rob Haldane Campbell College
11 Andrew Butler Queen’s University RFC
10 Justin Rea Queen’s University RFC
9 Jack Fleming Ballymena RFC
1 Ross Kane Methodist College
2 Peter Cromie Banbridge RFC
3 Mark Gilkinson Lisburn RFC
4 Luke Connolly Instonian’s RFC
5 Scott Barr Brighton University
6 David Marshall Malone RFC
7 Josh Atkinson RBAI
8 Paddy Anderson RBAI
Replacements will be selected from:-
Adam Kerr Queen’s University RFC
Paddy Reid Ballyclare High School
Michael Hoey Royal School, Armagh
Scott Finlay Sullivan Upper School
Russell Blair Ballymena RFC
Shane McBurney Ballymena RFC
Aaron Kennedy Banbridge Academy
Alistair Wright Royal School, Armagh
Harry Howard Campbell College

ormond lad

Leinster 19s play Old Belvedere's 21s in belvedere at 6pm tonight in Anglesea Road

fox_1973

ormond lad wrote: »

Leinster 19s play Old Belvedere's 21s in belvedere at 6pm tonight in Anglesea Road

Leinster 19s 24 - Old Belvedere 0

Quint2010

fox_1973 wrote: »

Leinster 19s 24 - Old Belvedere 0

Any idea of team or scorers?

fox_1973

Quint2010 wrote: »

Any idea of team or scorers?

Same starting as Northhampton as far as i know, wasn't at the game so ill post scorers when I know

rugbyman2015

Leinster Youths beat Castleknock 22-5 at Coolmine this evening. Didn't take note of scorers, average game