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ormond lad

thetruth_time wrote: »

With a sir name like parratta I'm guessing he's not Irish? And I'm a little confused, munster youths to Connacht 19s but in school in munster!! How does that work?

played munster youths in september 2011. after those interpros and not getting a shot at irish youths he moved to rockwell but couldnt play senior cup last february/march as he moved too late in the school year and was too late to be registered to play in the cup. He didnt get looked at for munster 19s so Paratta and another munster player or two went to connacht to play interpro rugby this season.
Paratta's father is from new zealand and played to a decent level down there afaik.

Hagz wrote: »

As said, Timoney and Jager are the stand out names, but keep an eye on winger Dillon Coghlan if he plays (if you go). He's a 5th year winger.

thanks. will keep on eye out on them if i can get into the game

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

played munster youths in september 2011. after those interpros and not getting a shot at irish youths he moved to rockwell but couldnt play senior cup last february/march as he moved too late in the school year and was too late to be registered to play in the cup. He didnt get looked at for munster 19s so Paratta and another munster player or two went to connacht to play interpro rugby this season.
Paratta's father is from new zealand and played to a decent level down there afaik.

thanks. will keep on eye out on them if i can get into the game

Thanks for that ol,
Just did a bit of research, he was only on the bench for munster youths last year, maybe that's why mun 19s didn't pick him? Either way looks like lazy selection to me. And he must have come on a lot at Rockwell and Connacht if he's deemed international standard now!!

ormond lad

thetruth_time wrote: »

Thanks for that ol,
Just did a bit of research, he was only on the bench for munster youths last year, maybe that's why mun 19s didn't pick him? Either way looks like lazy selection to me. And he must have come on a lot at Rockwell and Connacht if he's deemed international standard now!!

He was more than good enough to start but from what i could see paratta's style of play didnt suit how Munster intended on playing that interpro season. the preferred 10 was a kick to corner, solid no risk player while paratta liked to try things off the cuff etc and wasnt started because of that.

thetruth_time

ormond lad wrote: »

He was more than good enough to start but from what i could see paratta's style of play didnt suit how Munster intended on playing that interpro season. the preferred 10 was a kick to corner, solid no risk player while paratta liked to try things off the cuff etc and wasnt started because of that.

If that's how he likes to play he'll be a perfect fit at Rockwell so if they adopt the same style of play I saw last year!!

ormond lad

Snr League Section A
Todays results
Pres Bray 28 Castleknock 55
St Gerards 55 High School 7
Wesley College 12 Cistercian-Roscrea 29

Castleknock are unbeaten at the top and have scored nearly 50 points a game so are going very well. their game against roscrea next week will decide 1st place IMO

Snr League Section B
todays results
C.B.C 22 Kilkenny College 15
C.U.S 10 St Andrews 26
Gonzaga 36 Kings Hospital 27

Gonzaga have finished 1st with CBC 2nd and Kilkenny 3rd and Kings Hosp 4th

How many sides qualify for the knockout stages?

countrychap

ormond lad wrote: »

Snr League Section A
Todays results
Pres Bray 28 Castleknock 55
St Gerards 55 High School 7
Wesley College 12 Cistercian-Roscrea 29

Castleknock are unbeaten at the top and have scored nearly 50 points a game so are going very well. their game against roscrea next week will decide 1st place IMO

Snr League Section B
todays results
C.B.C 22 Kilkenny College 15
C.U.S 10 St Andrews 26
Gonzaga 36 Kings Hospital 27

Gonzaga have finished 1st with CBC 2nd and Kilkenny 3rd and Kings Hosp 4th

How many sides qualify for the knockout stages?

top 4 qualify as far as I know

LeinsterNo7

Blackrock beat Crescent today as far as I know
I think they've only lost one game this year and that was away to Terenure. Rock play Michaels next Saturday

thetruth_time

LeinsterNo7 wrote: »

Blackrock beat Crescent today as far as I know
I think they've only lost one game this year and that was away to Terenure. Rock play Michaels next Saturday

Anyone know the score in the Blackrock Crescent game?

LeinsterNo7

Blackrock 21-13 with Crescent scoring an intercept try near the end

ormond lad

Weekend fixtures. senior level
CBC Cork v Terenure
St Marys v Ballymena
St Michaels v Blackrock
Rockwell v Clongowes

Looking at tomorrows final round of senior league games
3rd(Roscrea) v 1st(C'knock) in Section A should be a good tight game with Newbridge who are currently in 2nd hoping Roscrea can upset the big scoring leaders and as a result sneak 1st place ahead of the playoffs
Newbridge v Wesley
Newbridge need a big win against 5th placed Wesley coupled with a big roscrea win if they want to sneak 1st place for the playoffs
Gerards play Pres Bray in a battle for 4th place and the last knockout place

Section B was finished last week and Gonzaga finished 1st, Monkstown, Kilkenny 3rd and Kings Hospital 4th

funtime93

Would people agree that the Leinster senior cup is a way higher standard than the Munster one?Seems that way to me from the matches i've seen in both provinces.

ormond lad

funtime93 wrote: »

Would people agree that the Leinster senior cup is a way higher standard than the Munster one?Seems that way to me from the matches i've seen in both provinces.

Yes. Many reasons for LSSC being stronger from there being Bigger numbers in schools like 'rock, 'nure, clongowes helps with playing standards as kids have to fight harder to get place on senior cup/junior cup team. Like several schools that compete in the LSC have 5/6 at all levels from u13/14 to SC while in Munster the most any school fields at senior level is about 3 maybe maybe 4 in the 2 schools in cork.

ormond lad

In final round of games in section A of the senior league that was played today Roscrea beat Castleknock 30-3 and Gerards and Bray drew 10-10 and Newbridge beat Wesley 22-16
The standings look like this with the 2 games below yet to be played or results havent been uploaded to leinster website
castleknock p6 pts23
newbridge p6 pts 23
roscrea p5 pts 20
pres bray p6 pts 11
wesley p5 pts 9
no results
high school v roscrea

So depending on how these 2 games go the league quarter finals will be
gonzaga v pres bray/wesley
cbc monkstown v newbridge/roscrea
castleknock/newbridge/roscrea v kilkenny
1 of 'crea/'bridge/knock v kings hospital

countrychap

anyone have result of roscrea match today

ormond lad

countrychap wrote: »

anyone have result of roscrea match today

Look at my prev post. they won 30-3
anyone know the newbridge result?

richardh330

Roscrea ~30-3 Castleknock

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

In final round of games in section A of the senior league that was played today Roscrea beat Castleknock 30-3 and Gerards and Bray drew 10-10 and Newbridge beat Wesley 22-16
The standings look like this with the 2 games below yet to be played or results havent been uploaded to leinster website
castleknock p6 pts23
newbridge p6 pts 23
roscrea p5 pts 20
pres bray p6 pts 11
wesley p5 pts 9
no results
high school v roscrea

So depending on how these 2 games go the league quarter finals will be
gonzaga v pres bray
cbc monkstown v newbridge/roscrea
castleknock/newbridge/roscrea v kilkenny
1 of 'crea/'bridge/knock v kings hospital

assuming roscrea beat high school 1/4s are
gonzaga v pres bray
cbc monkstown v newbridge
castleknock v kilkenny
roscrea v kings hospital

Irish fixtures are up on the irish website. U18 schools side play the youths in Coolmine at the end of december and play the english schools and french 18s over easter.
The english game is in Coolmine rfc Saturday March 30th at 2pm and the game v France is in France on Saturday April 6th.
The 19s play England in Dublin on Wednesday April 3rd and France in France on Sunday April 7th.

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

Weekend fixtures. senior level
CBC Cork v Terenure
St Marys v Ballymena
St Michaels v Blackrock 11am
Rockwell v Clongowes

other fixtures scheduled for tomorrow
Terenure jnr host CBC Cork at midday
Kings Hospital snr v Royal School Armagh snr 11am
Belvedere snr v RBAI 11am
CUS jnr v High School 11am
St Marys snr v Ballymena Academy snr 10.30am

ormond lad wrote: »

Irish fixtures are up on the irish website. U18 schools side play the youths in Coolmine at the end of december and play the english schools and french 18s over easter.
The english game is in Coolmine rfc Saturday March 30th at 2pm and the game v France is in France on Saturday April 6th.
The 19s play England in Dublin on Wednesday April 3rd and France in France on Sunday April 7th.

The 19s and 18s games against england and france should be good.
Good to see the youths and u18 schools sides switching their fixtures from last season when the schools competed in the FIRA comp which the youths are back playing in
Shame the 2 home games against england are not being played in a double header like the youths and 19s games against france were last april

fox_1973

Just to clarify the cbc cork v terenure senior game is on Sunday and not Saturday as stated. Is anyone going to watch it? Unfortunately I can't head down to watch it

charliemant

Any junior cup results leinster and munster ??

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

Any junior cup results leinster and munster ??

blackrocks juniors are in england tomorrow play sedbergh. 'rock have beaten Kilkenny, PBC Cork and Marys, scoring 50+ points against PBC and Kilkenny and beat Marys by a try

Garrido

Castleknock beat Kilkenny 40+ to 7. Gonzaga must have won also because they are playing against them afaik next Wed neutral venue.

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

blackrocks juniors are in england tomorrow play sedbergh. 'rock have beaten Kilkenny, PBC Cork and Marys, scoring 50+ points against PBC and Kilkenny and beat Marys by a try

was the rock pbc game not in senior checked website of rock they didnt play pbc that was seniors who scored 50+

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

was the rock pbc game not in senior checked website of rock they didnt play pbc that was seniors who scored 50+

fairly sure it had been junior
Any results from today apart from blackrocks win against Michaels?

ormond lad

Marys beat Ballymena 13-9 today

Anybody know how many have been picked for the irish 18s schools and irish 19 squad?
Leinster totally dominating the 18s squad as you should expect with nearly all their squad being looked at for the irish squad. from what i know their is 20+ leinster players in the irish squad

the baby bull elephant

ormond lad wrote: »

blackrocks juniors are in england tomorrow play sedbergh. 'rock have beaten Kilkenny, PBC Cork and Marys, scoring 50+ points against PBC and Kilkenny and beat Marys by a try

I can say for certain that Mary's Js beat Rock.

charliemant

Any junior cup results?

ormond lad

3 Senior League quarters are being played this wednesday
Monkstown v Newbridge, Roscrea v Kings Hospital and Gonzaga v Pres Bray.
The Castleknock v Kilkenny game is not being played this week afaik

RugbyMan10

ormond lad wrote: »

3 Senior League quarters are being played this wednesday
Monkstown v Newbridge, Roscrea v Kings Hospital and Gonzaga v Pres Bray.
The Castleknock v Kilkenny game is not being played this week afaik

why is that game not being played?

ormond lad

RugbyMan10 wrote: »

why is that game not being played?

no idea. other 3 games are on leinster ref site but roscrea game is not listed

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

no idea. other 3 games are on leinster ref site but roscrea game is not listed

Roscrea game is listed now and is being played wednesday like the other games.

the majority of the Irish 18s schools squad and irish 19s squad are below. there is 29 of the irish schools squad below. dont think there will be much more involved than that
Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Josh Murphy, Alex Penny, Adam Leavy, James Ryan(all St Michaels)
Fergal Cleary(Clongowes)
Cormac Brennan, Rory Moloney, Oisin Heffernan(Cistercian College Roscrea)
Andy Roche, Rob Lalor, Patrick Thornton, Tim Schmidt, Harrison Brewer, Billy Dardis(all Terenure)
Nicolas Timoney, Oliver Jager(both Blackrock)
Darryl Morton(Royal School Armagh)
Jack Owens, Josh Fullerton (both Campbell College)

Greg O Shea, Cormac Blake, Gearoid Lyons, Liam McMahon (all Crescent Comp)
Steve McMahon(Rockwell)
Luke O Halloran(St Munchins)
Liam O’Connor(CBC Cork)
Paul Kiernan(PBC Cork)

Irish 19s squad
James Falconer, Joe Bercis, Frankie Taggart (all Exiles)
Ross Molony, Cian Kelleher (St Michaels)
Rory O’Loughlin (UCD)
Jacob Walsh (Cistercian Roscrea/Ballinasloe)
Seba Meunargia (Buccaneers)
Caolin Blade (Monivea)
Rory Parata (Rockwell)
Dan Goggin, Cormac O Donnell (St Munchins)
Max Abbott (PBC Cork)
Ryan Foley, Rory Burke, Darragh Moloney (CBC Cork)
Adrian Enright (Garryowen)
David Johnston, Jack O’Donoghue (UL Bohs)
Charlie Slowey (UCC)
John Madigan (Dolphin)

Hagz

Jack O'Neill (Castleknock), Peter Dooley (Bruff), Conor McKeon (Gonzaga) ?
Shane Delahunt ?

ormond lad

Hagz wrote: »

Jack O'Neill (Castleknock), Peter Dooley (Birr), Conor McKeon (Gonzaga) ?

Theyre only names ive heard and there is quite a few missing esp from 19s squad. I would imagine all 3 you named will be involved.

specttator

tks for info. are these panels posted somewhere or have you picked it up on the grapevine.

ormond lad

specttator wrote: »

tks for info. are these panels posted somewhere or have you picked it up on the grapevine.

Just heard names from talking to friends, seen names online. Fairly sure full squad lists for 18s(youths and schools) and 19s will not be released until mid december like previous years

yougottagoboy

Hagz wrote: »

Jack O'Neill (Castleknock), Peter Dooley (Bruff), Conor McKeon (Gonzaga) ?
Shane Delahunt ?

peadae timmins is in there too

ormond lad

1 of the opening rounds of the Munster junior cup was played today and St Clements from Limerick beat Midleton College 13-0.

While in Leinster it was knockout stage in the league at both senior and junior level.
In the senior league quarters Gonzaga beat Pres Bray 35-0, Castleknock beat Kilkenny 22-16, Newbridge beat Monkstown 16-15 and Roscrea beat Kings Hospital 23-9
In the junior semi finals Monkstown beat Newbridge 20-18 and Gonzaga beat Castleknock 7-5

Fixtures coming up
Senior
tomorrow
Rockwell v Clongowes
saturday
Munchins v Gerards
Crescent v Marist Athlone
CBC Cork v Cork Con u20s
Kilkenny v RS Armagh
Junior
saturday
Crescent Comp v Marist Athlone
CBC Cork v St Michaels
PBC Cork v Castletroy
Belvedere v Blackrock

ormond lad

Any result from the Rockwell Clongowes game played today?

ormond lad

todays results
RBAI Belfast 6 Terenure 15
Blackrock 18 Belvedere 14

Marist were beating Crescent Comp 7-5 early in 2nd half but dont know final score
Any other results?

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

Any result from the Rockwell Clongowes game played today?

Clongowes 5 rockwell 3
Rockwell had 7 u17's playing

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

Any result from the Rockwell Clongowes game played today?

Clongowes 5 rockwell 3
Rockwell had 7 u17's playing

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

Clongowes 5 rockwell 3
Rockwell had 7 u17's playing

7 bowen shield players. thats a lot. was willie coffey one of the 17s to play?

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

7 bowen shield players. thats a lot. was willie coffey one of the 17s to play?

Sorry 4 started three cameon. He came on the wing

charliemant

Junior results??

ormond lad

charliemant wrote: »

Sorry 4 started three cameon. He came on the wing

He did well in the Bowen Shield. Will he be close to senior cup side in feb/march?

charliemant

ormond lad wrote: »

He did well in the Bowen Shield. Will he be close to senior cup side in feb/march?

Will b close but i would say sub but not too far off

ormond lad

Main qualifying comps for the Munster schools cups are due to be played this week
The Mungret Cup is the senior cup qualifier and the 1/2 final draw is
O’Brien cup winner v Midleton College
Newtown School v Bandon Grammer to be played wednesday

The Mungret Shield is the junior cup qualifier and the 1/2 final draw is
St Clements v King Cup winner
Newtown School v Bandon Grammer to be played next wednesday

ormond lad

Ulster weekend review
http://www.intouchrugby.com/magazine/2012/12/02/danske-bank-ulster-schools-round-up-saturday-1st-december-2012-by-barney-mcgonigle-includes-cup-1st-rounf-report-ballyclare-scalp-blackrock-news-from-massive-local-games/
Couple of games involving Leinster schools including a Blackrock side and Wesley College.
Upcoming fixtures
Wed Dec 5th
Columbas v Wesley
Blackrock v Rockwell
Crescent Comp v Roscrea
Glenstal v St Munchins
Sat Dec 8th
CBC Monkstown v Terenure
St Marys v Coleraine
Ard Scoil Ris v Bruff
Rockwell v Belvedere
Sun Dec 9th
PBC Cork v Clongowes

Hagz

That link leads to a 404 Ormond. Can you try again please?

ormond lad

Hagz wrote: »

That link leads to a 404 Ormond. Can you try again please?

Link fixed