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have lyrics need chords

  • 03-05-2012 10:49am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭


    Is there any sort of science in choosing the chords for a song . Im a nearly intermediate guitar player, and I have been trying with a capo and open chords.
    I have to use the basic knowledge of have to drag a tune out of a song . What I do is try all the open chords in a capo position then move it down the neck until I have an opening chord. Its not the ideal method if there is any other tricks for a basic player to make a song Im all ears.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭dyer


    Is there any sort of science in choosing the chords for a song

    It's called music theory :)

    if you can find the key your song is in that would help. if you have your first chord, then you have a range of chords you can use that are in key with that chord etc. you could try plucking a melody and using the root notes of that to form your chords. you really should learn some music theory though, it will help a alot, as will learning a few scales etc once you understand the concept of chord construction.

    i use this for quick reference : http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    I have a basic knowledge of scales , how do I find what key im singing in , Im a limited singer . Its probably in the key of strangled dolphins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    I sang do ray me fa so la etc etc into a tuner and it starts and ends in Bb.
    Does this mean I sing in Bb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭dyer


    lol.. well your vocal range will influence what key the song is in, because you can always transpose a song to another key to fit your range. perhaps you should try for some vocal lessons?
    I sang do ray me fa so la etc etc into a tuner and it starts and ends in Bb.
    Does this mean I sing in Bb

    it's possible if that's the lowest/highest note you can sustain.. but with some vocal training and warmup exercises you should be able to extend that range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Itd be good if I could sing in a tuner and have it staying on the same note the word started on , Id probably have to reinvent the scale system to put these notes on the same scale I fear haha.
    The cloptrop scale of vocal neglet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    Practice. Trying starting with something simple like G to C to D to C and back to G in a basic strum and time. While yoou do that, try to hum along to it, with no words. Now you have a melody. Now try to fit words to the melody. For example, if your melody has six notes per 'bar', then you need around six syllables in your line of verse. And there you go, you have a section of a song. Now, a decent trick to pull is to play the 'relative minor' (look it up) of the major scale you are playing in, which in this case is Em. Now the next section is in the key of Em. Try maybe Em, Am, Em, D. Now you can go back to G and start again.

    It's really that simple. Even the most complex symphony is built on these type of principles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Meehanmeehan


    Yes, you can learn the diatonic chords of a scale.
    They're all built of the major scale. I'd suggest properly reading into this but the for now the chords built of off the C major scale are:
    I C major
    II D minor
    III E minor
    IV F major
    V G major
    VI A minor
    VII B diminished
    VII C major

    Conversely, the chords of A minor (C major's relative minor) are:
    I A minor
    II B diminished
    III C major
    IV D minor
    V E minor
    VI F major
    VII G major
    VIII I minor

    BUUUUTT before learning all of that
    Ditch the capo and learn bar chords, they require more finger strength but they are much more useful than open chords.

    Another thing is once you learn the diatonic chords (also known as harmonizing the scale), you have to realise that this is not a set of rules for writing songs, it is a guide for chords that work well together.
    A lot of great progressions can come out of chords that fit no scale.
    Let your ears guide what the song needs, not the scale.


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