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conradmurph wrote: »Anyone wanna give an insight into first year Med UCC?
I can give it a bit of a go, just finished up first year!
There's around 160 in the year, but a good portion of that is made up of International Students (mainly Malaysian but also Singaporean, Canadian etc.) so there's a pretty good mix and I'd say everyone gets on pretty well! From an academic point of view you do 6 modules over the year -
FM1001 - Runs from the start of term until somewhere in November and has a 30%/70% CA/End of Year spread. 15 Credits. Made up of Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry components. The Anatomy is of the Upper and Lower Limbs, and I thought it was probably the toughest anatomy of the year loooads of muscles, origins, insertions, innervations etc. to learn but the lecturer is class and at least it makes everything else seem easier as you move on! Physiology was basic principles about cells and transport, as well as some neurophysiology and the physiology of the 3 muscle types. Biochemistry was a bit of a pain when we were actually doing it as a lot of it is new, lots of structures etc. and you weren't too sure what sort of detail was needed, but because it underpins everything else you do over the year in Biochem most people felt it was actually grand when revising for the summer exams!
FM1002 - Ran from November to February. 50/50 CA/End of Year Assessment. 15 credits. Same structure as before. In anatomy did everything to do with the cardiovascular and respiratory systems, I thought it was much more interesting that the FM1 stuff but opinions varied! Physiology was the biggest part of the module, it was a lot meatier than the last module, but it was also a good bit more interesting, so that made up for it! Biochem was looking at Kreb's Cycle, some metabolic stuff and looking at Hemoglobin, Antibodies...I can't really remember what else there was
FM1003 - February to the end of March. Also 50/50 as well. 10 Credits, but despite this because of the shorter timeframe to get everything done I felt it was on par with the 15 credit modules in terms of difficulty/workload. Covered the digestive and endocrine systems mostly. Happened to be the module I did best in overall but equally a lot of people thought it was the hardest...the Biochem and Physiology were full-on, but interesting!
CP1002 - Ran all year. 3 MCQs each worth 25% and a End of Year exam worth 25% too, no OSCE (Objective Structured Clinical Examination) this year, but there was last year, so who knows for next year! 10 Credits. I think everyone liked this module, it was the most doctor-y of them all, there were tutorials every second or third week on a specific thing - Anemia, Amdominal Pain, Respiratory Exam etc. etc. and it was taught from the point of view of what you as a a future doctor needed to know - symptoms, underlying pathophysiology and causes, treatment etc. Also wasn't hard to do well, and very very possible to have passed before the Summer Exam!
BH1002 - Year-round. 50% Essay due in April, 50% End of Year Exam, 10 Learning-Logs which were Pass/Fail. 5 Credits. Person, Culture, Society, it had one lecture a week every Monday after lunch and 4 tutorials with a working GP spread out throughout the year. Looked at things like psychology of illness, evidence based medcine, biopsychosocial model (Buzzword you'll come to love :P), Communication Skills - it was all of the stuff that isn't really science-y but you need to be caring, compassionate, empathetic etc. as well as the Evidence Based Stuff! Seen largely as the soft module for the year, let's just say it didn't really stress anyone out too much! :cool:
Elective - You also pick a 5 credit optional module from a list, available on the UCC Calendar. You can do a language, epidemiology, a research project/literature review, science in society....there were tons of options!
Mostly taught through lectures, we also had anatomy practicals every week (often twice a week) where you looked at what you had learned in lectures in the dissection-room. We didn't do any dissections ourselves this year, there were prosections available and a demonstrater would give you a really good tutorial on the day's topic, as well as doing computer learning, histology and practicing Spot Exams in the labs - I think most people liked the labs, and no one (that I know of) fainted, so don't be worried about it :P We also had a good few physiology labs and biochem tutrials spread throughout the year, as well as those CP and BH tutorials I mentioned!
Most teaching carried out in Brookfield/Western Gateway Building both of which are really modern and well-equipped for everything you needed, facilities (especially anatomy/physiology labs) were excellent! There's plenty to get involved in here too - so many societies (including MedSoc, SurgSoc, Surgeon Noonan and MSF from a Med point of view!), clubs etc. and the social aspect has been amazing too!
I think I've given a lengthy enough plug for the college now
...suffice to say I think if you do choose to come here you won't be disappointed, everything is really well organised and everyone's pretty nice. Also, given the results weren't too long ago, the failure rate was really low from what I've seen - so, encouraging!
Good luck with your decision, but you should really just come to Cork, its great! If anyone has anything else to ask about the course or college, feel free to PM me!0 -
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95Alexandra wrote: »I'd really appreciate it if someone could please give me their option if I could get ucc with 746? I'm going crazy with worry! Any help would be much appreciated:)
I think you will be on with that, it was 738 last year I think so I think it will be around that this year
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Saracarroll wrote: »I think you will be on with that, it was 738 last year I think so I think it will be around that this year
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Yeah but if you were to take into account the points last year, the points rise was much smaller than previously which suggested that the points were beginning to stabilise. That said, there seems to be a bigger rise in HPAT points this year than last year (I think, from what I can recall). But then there's the drop in applicants. To conclude, it's very difficult to ascertain really and trying to do so seems a bit futile. Fingers crossed the jump isn't too high though, I'm very happy with my score but it by no means guarantees a place.
I would imagine the points won't stabilise for a while yet, and definitely not this year. Like you said, hpat points have gone up. Although having said that I think the leaving cert exams themselves were slightly harder this year than last year (others may disagree on that lol). Good luck anyway!!0 -
I can give it a bit of a go, just finished up first year!
There's around 160 in the year, but a good portion of that is made up of International Students (mainly Malaysian but also Singaporean, Canadian etc.) so there's a pretty good mix and I'd say everyone gets on pretty well! From an academic point of view you do 6 modules over the year -
FM1001 - Runs from the start of term until somewhere in November and has a 30%/70% CA/End of Year spread. 15 Credits. Made up of Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry components. The Anatomy is of the Upper and Lower Limbs, and I thought it was probably the toughest anatomy of the year loooads of muscles, origins, insertions, innervations etc. to learn but the lecturer is class and at least it makes everything else seem easier as you move on! Physiology was basic principles about cells and transport, as well as some neurophysiology and the physiology of the 3 muscle types. Biochemistry was a bit of a pain when we were actually doing it as a lot of it is new, lots of structures etc. and you weren't too sure what sort of detail was needed, but because it underpins everything else you do over the year in Biochem most people felt it was actually grand when revising for the summer exams!
FM1002 - Ran from November to February. 50/50 CA/End of Year Assessment. 15 credits. Same structure as before. In anatomy did everything to do with the cardiovascular and respiratory systems, I thought it was much more interesting that the FM1 stuff but opinions varied! Physiology was the biggest part of the module, it was a lot meatier than the last module, but it was also a good bit more interesting, so that made up for it! Biochem was looking at Kreb's Cycle, some metabolic stuff and looking at Hemoglobin, Antibodies...I can't really remember what else there was
FM1003 - February to the end of March. Also 50/50 as well. 10 Credits, but despite this because of the shorter timeframe to get everything done I felt it was on par with the 15 credit modules in terms of difficulty/workload. Covered the digestive and endocrine systems mostly. Happened to be the module I did best in overall but equally a lot of people thought it was the hardest...the Biochem and Physiology were full-on, but interesting!
CP1002 - Ran all year. 3 MCQs each worth 25% and a End of Year exam worth 25% too, no OSCE (Objective Structured Clinical Examination) this year, but there was last year, so who knows for next year! 10 Credits. I think everyone liked this module, it was the most doctor-y of them all, there were tutorials every second or third week on a specific thing - Anemia, Amdominal Pain, Respiratory Exam etc. etc. and it was taught from the point of view of what you as a a future doctor needed to know - symptoms, underlying pathophysiology and causes, treatment etc. Also wasn't hard to do well, and very very possible to have passed before the Summer Exam!
BH1002 - Year-round. 50% Essay due in April, 50% End of Year Exam, 10 Learning-Logs which were Pass/Fail. 5 Credits. Person, Culture, Society, it had one lecture a week every Monday after lunch and 4 tutorials with a working GP spread out throughout the year. Looked at things like psychology of illness, evidence based medcine, biopsychosocial model (Buzzword you'll come to love :P), Communication Skills - it was all of the stuff that isn't really science-y but you need to be caring, compassionate, empathetic etc. as well as the Evidence Based Stuff! Seen largely as the soft module for the year, let's just say it didn't really stress anyone out too much! :cool:
Elective - You also pick a 5 credit optional module from a list, available on the UCC Calendar. You can do a language, epidemiology, a research project/literature review, science in society....there were tons of options!
Mostly taught through lectures, we also had anatomy practicals every week (often twice a week) where you looked at what you had learned in lectures in the dissection-room. We didn't do any dissections ourselves this year, there were prosections available and a demonstrater would give you a really good tutorial on the day's topic, as well as doing computer learning, histology and practicing Spot Exams in the labs - I think most people liked the labs, and no one (that I know of) fainted, so don't be worried about it :P We also had a good few physiology labs and biochem tutrials spread throughout the year, as well as those CP and BH tutorials I mentioned!
Most teaching carried out in Brookfield/Western Gateway Building both of which are really modern and well-equipped for everything you needed, facilities (especially anatomy/physiology labs) were excellent! There's plenty to get involved in here too - so many societies (including MedSoc, SurgSoc, Surgeon Noonan and MSF from a Med point of view!), clubs etc. and the social aspect has been amazing too!
I think I've given a lengthy enough plug for the college now...suffice to say I think if you do choose to come here you won't be disappointed, everything is really well organised and everyone's pretty nice. Also, given the results weren't too long ago, the failure rate was really low from what I've seen - so, encouraging!
Good luck with your decision, but you should really just come to Cork, its great! If anyone has anything else to ask about the course or college, feel free to PM me!
I can't compete with this reply, but just to say that I second it! I love it!0 -
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95Alexandra wrote: »I was just wondering if anyone could give me an idea of how much books are for 1st year med? Thanks:)
Most are around €60 - €70 each. All the books are available in the library. However, I would recommend you get your own anatomy atlas' I prefer Netters and Rohen. Then after that its up to you 0 -
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95Alexandra wrote: »I was just wondering if anyone could give me an idea of how much books are for 1st year med? Thanks:)Most are around €60 - €70 each. All the books are available in the library. However, I would recommend you get your own anatomy atlas' I prefer Netters and Rohen. Then after that its up to you
Just want to mention that you can often get these books cheaper online on Amazon or the likes or second hand in the college book store and it doesn't really matter if you don't have the latest edition. Also in UCC there is a night at the start of the year where the older years sell on their books to first years, which is well worth checking out 0
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