Hellboy 3/reboot

Erik Shin

With Ed Skrein quitting, Daniel Dae Kim has been selected as Ben Daimio

Slydice

Ladies and Gentlemen...
https://twitter.com/artofmmignola/status/908063506590830597

also:
https://twitter.com/DavidKHarbour/status/908070476475494400

JP Liz V1

Was director Neil Marshall also involved in the script?

pixelburp

Might be just the lighting, but the resemblance is very like Ron Perlman; not sure there's much you can do with the appearance of Hellboy mind you, without deviating so much you'd p*ss off everyone.

Remaining very cautious about this & holding judgement until at least a trailer, and maybe beyond that: I didn't like how one of the first things announced was the R-rating, as if the producers couldn't want to gore up the film.

Bacchus

pixelburp wrote: »

Might be just the lighting, but the resemblance is very like Ron Perlman; not sure there's much you can do with the appearance of Hellboy mind you, without deviating so much you'd p*ss off everyone.

Remaining very cautious about this & holding judgement until at least a trailer, and maybe beyond that: I didn't like how one of the first things announced was the R-rating, as if the producers couldn't want to gore up the film.

As you say, it's kinda hard to deviate from the Ron Perlman look. I think he looks great though (can't remember actors name... the cop from Stranger Things) and had no idea he beefed up so much for this. I saw one comment on the look though highlighting the attention to detail with the lips. It's something so small but they nailed the look from the comics.

Regarding the R rating... I dunno, I think it set expectations a bit for this. There's serious fatigue for PG-13 rated "adult" movies (Total Recall, Terminator: Genisys, Robocop, etc.) that ends up with a movie pulling it's punches and attempting to catch the teen and "adult" markets. Sure this could be a case of the producers cynically jumping on the bandwagon of recent R rated success (Deadpool, Logan) but it's a very small bandwagon and the movie will have to work hard to capture the audience that Deadpool and Logan did to make up for the loss of the PG-13 crowd. So... for me, I think it was a positive statement from the get go that they felt they had a strong story/movie/team on their hands to make it a success as an R rated movie.

Mickeroo

It's just marketing spin, a lot of people automatically (wrongly) assume a film will be better because it's R-rated and the studios know this. Logan and Deadpool have also showed R rated films can sell too.

Hellboy 1 & 2 weren't remotely hindered by their age rating imo.

Bacchus

Mickeroo wrote: »

Hellboy 1 & 2 weren't remotely hindered by their age rating imo.

Partly down to the landscape of the superheros in cinema 10-13 years ago. Partly also down to the (still to this day) unique visual style of those movies (thanks to del Toro). The superhero genre is flooded at the moment though, particularly with watered down teen action movies, and an R rated Neil Marshall take on Hellboy could be what's needed to help it stand out from the MCU/DCEU crowd.

Call it marketing spin if you want but they still need to deliver that end product and I'll buy it... unless it's sh*t

conorhal

Mickeroo wrote: »

It's just marketing spin, a lot of people automatically (wrongly) assume a film will be better because it's R-rated and the studios know this. Logan and Deadpool have also showed R rated films can sell too.

Hellboy 1 & 2 weren't remotely hindered by their age rating imo.

The first two were hindered in their abilty to faithfully translate the comic by their rating though. Having read the comics, an R ratating might have allowed Del Toro to make the films a lot more like Pan's Labyrinth, which would have been a closer translation, then making it a cooky X-Men.

Stone Deaf 4evr

I dunno, if you look back at hellboy 1 and 2, they still stand up remarkably well on their own merits, as opposed to something like xmen which has aged like milk.

Agent Coulson

The film has been delayed till mid 2019 now from it's January release date.

brianregan09

The opening to Hellboy was and is still amazing , there great films

Looking forward to this version though

Mr Crispy

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The film has been delayed till mid 2019 now from it's January release date.

No official reasons being cited either. So could be anything from problems with the film as is, to them thinking it just might do better in the new slot (although mid-year would mean they think they have a hit on their hands). Fingers crossed.

Agent Coulson

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

No official reasons being cited either. So could be anything from problems with the film as is, to them thinking it just might do better in the new slot (although mid-year would mean they think they have a hit on their hands). Fingers crossed.

It will be going up against Shazam so maybe they are thinking no one will want to see another DC film.


I'd pick Hellboy myself over Shazam.

Kiith

Looks pretty damn cool.

pixelburp

Still kinda looks like Ron Perlman (or should that be Perlman looks like Hellboy? )

pixelburp

A new imagine popped up from this; with an April release, I suspect we're not far off from a trailer;

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/hellboy-reboot-violent-bloody-says-director-neil-marshall-exclusive-image/

A small interview with director Neil Marshall confirms it's going to be a gory, violent reboot. With Marshall at the helm and having watched this previous films, I believe him.

Mr Crispy

I'd have liked to see more from Del Toro and Perlman, but still reasonably hopeful for this. He's had some misfires, but when he gets it right Marshall's movies can be gory fun.

pixelburp

Sure enough, with the promotions ramping up, there's a trailer due Thursday.

ThePott

https://streamable.com/6c6tq

Psst... early trailer

I enjoy the look of this, wondering how R-rated it's going to be, definitely a real buddy cop comedy vibe to it.

Just recently got some of the Hellboy omnibuses so looking forward to this now.

Glad the trailer didn't use any obvious music choices like Red Right Hand :pac:

Tipsy McSwagger

Looks absolutely terrible.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuV92mmp1cU

Grayditch

Looks a bit a bit better.

Corholio

Oof that trailer was extremely messy. Very little hooked me from that anyway. It seems a very 'british' type comedy, which has opposite ends of spectrum of course. It didn't come across great from that snapshot.

brevity

Seemed fun but a bit all over the place at the same time.

Oafley Jones

Quite liked the Hellboy design in stills, but Harbour really seems to be struggling with the facial prosthetics there. It seems far too cumbersome and heavy for him to emote in.

pixelburp

I didn't realise this was set in England, I was thrown off initially by the very British location and cast - though Daniel DaeKim's English accent is bloody brutal. Alkost Dick VanDyke level there.

Overall looks like the "working stiff" resignation is there, some of the comedy made me laugh. Cautiously optimistic on this one, will wait n see though

JP Liz V1

Is that Big Mo Harris Slater from Eastenders?

Slydice

Had to have a listen now..

p to the e

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is that Big Mo Harris Slater from Eastenders?

Gary Oldman's sister.

JP Liz V1

p to the e wrote: »

Gary Oldman's sister.

Yes Laila Morse

Effects

Trailer looks pretty terrible tbh. And I never thought I'd say this but they need a bit of CGI on his face.

gandalf

It looks dreadful. From the trailer it looks like they have made a complete utter mess of it.

CatInABox

Hmmmmm......

I am unimpressed. There's parts of that trailer that look like something out of an episode of Buffy the vampire slayer.

Hopefully they turn it around, somehow.

johnny_ultimate

I’m always reticent to judge on a trailer, but was taken aback at how cheap this looks. Marshall has been working in TV primarily for a while now, and dare I suggest it shows - just has a strange, jarringly low-budget look to it, at least in the YouTube encoding.

The first two Hellboy films are hardly masterpieces, but del Toro made them look rich and colourful and even probably a bit more expensive than they actually were. Even allowing this is a lower budget take on the material... it looks retrograde and like something you’d get on TV.

expectationlost

maybe its on purpose but the arms looks terrible, that wrist part is too long, it too much looks like he is holding a fake fist.

Mr E

This looks much better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRqi4EQiUfc

pixelburp

Comedy looks good, not sure I'm on board the OTT CGI gore though. Ditto the citywide destruction, bit sick of films trashing entire cities just 'cos they can.

Some of the monster design looks pretty spectacular though. And it's also weird seeing Milla Jovovich in a non Resident Evil film.

Venom

Everything in the second trailer looked good except for Hellboy

Slydice

Sold!

Oh so sold!

expectationlost

jokes didn't land

V9

Smoke on the water riff nicely used. I enjoyed the new trailer. Sold it for me more than the first.

android1

I've a feeling this will be bad.

alchemist33

Venom wrote: »

Everything in the second trailer looked good except for Hellboy

He seems so short

Sad Professor

Venom wrote: »

Everything in the second trailer looked good except for Hellboy

What's wrong with him?

Johnmb

Sad Professor wrote: »

What's wrong with him?

The arm looks weird to me. Maybe I'm remembering the original with rose-coloured glasses, but the arm didn't look as obviously fake as it seems to in these trailers...

Venom

Sad Professor wrote: »

What's wrong with him?

The actor's voice seems wrong for the part along with terrible comic timing, leaves this version of the character just feeling off somehow.

Mr E

First reviews are out. Looks like the concerns were well founded...

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/hellboy-2019

Slydice

Yikes 11% on Rotten Tomatoes!
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hellboy_2019

pixelburp

They released a sizzle reel trailer of the gore last week, and it looked terrible; CGI splatter that just gave off this sense of a bad video game aimed at adolescents. Will likely stay clear. Was never expecting Neil Marshall to be able to match the style of DelToro, but sounds like he hasn't reigned in his trashy sensibilities..

ThePott

I'm gonna see this tomorrow, haven't seen a bad film in a while :pac: