Evolution of Pubs

Michael Weston

Its no secret Irish pubs are a dying breed at the moment with closures everyday. My question is this, assuming price was not the issue and live music is not the answer what do you think our local bars need to do to evolve and survive??

chin_grin

Well you've just addressed the main (if only) two reasons.

hondasam

Customers who are great drinkers would help.

batistuta9

if price wasn't the issue then there'd be no problem

Rhyme

Women, gallons of them.

Red Hand

Rhyme wrote: »

Women, gallons of them.

Pipe them in like beer, since they are measured in gallons?:pac:

Bandana boy

Plenty of pubs are thriving at the moment it is only those who's offering is no longer attractive that are struggling

chin_grin

Red Hand wrote: »

Pipe them in like beer, since they are measured in gallons?:pac:

When liquefied, yes.

DMG_49

Alcoholics Anonymous

admiralofthefleet

Michael Weston wrote: »

Its no secret Irish pubs are a dying breed at the moment with closures everyday. My question is this, assuming price was not the issue and live music is not the answer what do you think our local bars need to do to evolve and survive??

and costs/insurance/waste/water/overheads/heating/lighting isnt an issue too

ColeTrain

Bring back the happy hour. We f****** need it..

admiralofthefleet

DMG_49 wrote: »

Alcoholics Anonymous

i went there a while ago and they advised me to stay away from alcoholics. so i stopped going

Rhyme

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

and costs/insurance/waste/water/overheads/heating/lighting isnt an issue too

Not for the customer.

When I first saw this thread, I thought that it said "Evolution of pubes" dyslexia strikes again, :rolleyes:

Sky King

Sorting out the price of a pint would definitely help.

The drink driving thing fuked the country pubs right up though.

LH Pathe

most of the suburban pubs seem like phoney sets to me now. feels if I walked on the set of fair city, some crud makeovers altogether

anyways was fairly obvious at the time the smoking ban killed em and they never really recovered.

Sky King

Here's a list of things I hate in pubs which might help publicans reading the thread:

Televisions. Full stop. I don't go to a pub to watch TV. OK if it's a sports bar, show a bit of sport or whatever, but otherwise watch your poxy fair city at home.

Screamingly loud music (good or bad)

Bad music

**** quality beer. There's no excuse for it, other then your bad housekeeping.

Turtyturd

Greedy publicans killed them as much as anything else. In saying that legalizing drugs on the premises is the obvious solution.

batistuta9

Sky King wrote: »

**** quality beer. There's no excuse for it, other then your bad housekeeping.

beer that isn't popular in a pub is supposed to be worse than the regularly drunk beers - it isn't being used much, lying in the ceg for ages

ColeTrain

Sky King wrote: »

Televisions. Full stop. I don't go to a pub to watch TV. OK if it's a sports bar, show a bit of sport or whatever, but otherwise watch your poxy fair city at home.

Sport is fine but there's nothing more depressing than having a soap or something like that blaring when you're having a pint.

golden lane

it is the advent of television.......that deadened the art of conversation..

and the jone's......people feel the need to spend money elsewhere......

arse..biscuits

No TVs

Better selection of beers

Friendly staff

No loud music

Tits out Tuesdays

Michael Weston

To be fair I find a lot of publicans have reduced their prices and I accept they creamed the situation for years but even the cheaper prices dont seem to be getting custom back.

I think our whole mentality about how we socialise has changed and the pub is no longer central to all our social activities.

fabbydabby

We're still drinking heroic quantities of liquor though....

arse..biscuits wrote: »

No TVs

Better selection of beers

Friendly staff

No loud music

Tits out Tuesdays

Sodium Light Saturdays (discussion group)

Michael Weston

arse..biscuits wrote: »

No TVs

Better selection of beers

Friendly staff

No loud music

Tits out Tuesdays

Ha ha ha Tits out Tuesdays. End of thread problem solved with pure genius :D:D

eth0

arse..biscuits wrote: »

No TVs

Better selection of beers

Friendly staff

No loud music

Tits out Tuesdays

No fruit machines. Its more of a British thing but I fooking hate them things with their annoying light patterns flickering in the background

Rhyme

fabbydabby wrote: »

Sodium Light Saturdays (discussion group)

I read that as 'Sodomy Light Saturdays' and thought you mixed up the Irish pub scene with the Irish club scene.

Boy was my face red.


so to speak.

mackg

My main problem with most bars is the loudess of the music. Obviously I'm not talkig about clubs or even late bars after a certain time but why the fuck do normal bars that close at half twelve blast out the choons at ten o clock when you're on you're second pint trying to get in the swing of things?

The only reason I can think of is that if it's too loud to talk you drink faster and so you drink more and in turn they make more money. Anyone else give me a better reason?

admiralofthefleet

Rhyme wrote: »

Not for the customer.

if the massive costs incurred by a pub were reduced im sure the cost to the customer would too

Battered Mars Bar

Price is an issue, no need for rubbish music, women shouldn't be allowed in unless they act in an appropriate lady like manner befitting of the environment.

IrishAm

Pubs in Ireland try and be too many things. Sports bar/Disco bar at the weekends/ Fine dining restaurant/ Coffee shops during the day/ Local bar/

They need to focus on what they are good at and stop trying to break into each and every niche market.

Friendly bartender.
Decent selection of beers and to look after their lines.
Simple, reasonably priced food.
Clean toilets.
Sport on when necessary. Turn off Sky Sports News when nobody is watching it.