Irish men or foreign men

shopaholic01

Roadtrippin wrote: »

I can... What's so great about being obsessed with your looks when you have children to take care of? Or a stressful job?

I mean, I like dressing well when I have the money and making sure I put on a bit of make-up etc. but I find it annoying how vain people have become these days...
As in some of my students need to take a look in the mirror before they leave the house. What's with the fake-tan and black eyeliner???

I personally prefer taking care of my looks, especially the older I get since obviously you have to look professional etc. But at the same time I would not prioritize it over more important things in life. I would never spend the amount of money some of my friends do on make-up and clothes. It is borderline crazy what amount of money some people spend on these things nowadays... I prefer eating and saving up for a new laptop and car!

But you are making some effort - that was my point. I don't mean spending 2 hours getting ready in the morning. As for the students, most of us wore awful make-up and clothes when we were younger. We just thought it was fashion then!

shopaholic01

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Skinny jeans are cool, no matter what age you are :mad:

Keep telling yourself that, Micky .............

The Corinthian

DERPY HOOFS wrote: »

Irish men just want another mammy.
Foreign men is where the passion is ladys

Good grief. That one is right up there with the claim that Russian women are "stunning". First they take our jobs, then our wimin now our men!

Truth of it is that the grass is always greener in the next field. Evolution has probably hard-wired this into our skulls because the exotic leads to greater genetic diversity, but whatever the source this is all it is.

And I speak from first hand experience in this regard, having played the Italian card in Ireland to get women and the Irish card in Italy to do the same.

There are pros and cons in all. And on an individual level the variations are so great that generalizing about any nationality is a nonsense. Ultimately, you're all just trying to rationalize evolutionary instinct for the exotic, which as another poster suggested, is stupid.

HalloweenJack

DERPY HOOFS wrote: »

Irish men just want another mammy.

While I think this is a big generalisation, I do see it in some of my friends, it's pretty disturbing, tbh.

Daveysil15

shopaholic01 wrote: »

When Irish women do this it's assumed we love ourselves/are unapproachable/relics from the celtic tiger years!

'Tis hard to win ......:(

It's not the dressing up in nice clothes that makes Irish women unappoachable. That's more to do with attitude. Approaching Irish women can feel like an interrogation as most assume you're only after one thing. Generally when you approach a foreign girl you don't get that "Ohh my god, you wanna shag me" response, that you get from most Irish women. So by all means dress up in nice clothes but don't be afraid to have a conversation with a man if he approaches you.

Roadtrippin

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Skinny jeans are cool, no matter what age you are :mad:

You are trolling, right? Really?

I reckon very few men can pull them off IMHO. Maybe some teenagers, hipsters or rockstars. It makes most men my age (late twenties) look try-hard or fairly ridiculous.

Only know one guy that can wear them without me bursting out into laughter...

And I hear they're not that great for the ol' crown jewel content...

So ladies, if you want your partner to produce babies, SAY NO TO SKINNY JEANS! (Sorry, couldn't help pointing that out)

Micky Dolenz

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Keep telling yourself that, Micky .............

I'll have you know I'm not the only one saying it. My Ma thinks I look right dapper. :cool:

Micky Dolenz

Roadtrippin wrote: »

You are trolling, right? Really?

I can't troll, it would be like a Priest sinning.

I can be one of them hipposters.

shopaholic01

Daveysil15 wrote: »

It's not the dressing up in nice clothes that makes Irish women unappoachable. That's more to do with attitude. Approaching Irish women can feel like an interrogation as most assume you're only after one thing. Generally when you approach a foreign girl you don't get that "Ohh my god, you wanna shag me" response, that you get from most Irish women. So by all means dress up in nice clothes but don't be afraid to have a conversation with a man if he approaches you.

We are not all like that! If a really drunk guy starts slurring in your face then yes, but I will always talk to a coherent man.

Roadtrippin

shopaholic01 wrote: »

But you are making some effort - that was my point. I don't mean spending 2 hours getting ready in the morning. As for the students, most of us wore awful make-up and clothes when we were younger. We just thought it was fashion then!

Fair enough. Good point.

These are third-level students mostly though... Maybe someone should teach them a few things!

When I was in university, I wore hoodies and skatershoes or flats and only got properly done up for nights out... Think it's time to tell some of them that spending 2 hours on your hair before a lecture is a waste of time and only makes people like me giggle

shopaholic01

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I'll have you know I'm not the only one saying it. My Ma thinks I look right dapper. :cool:

It has to be said, Micky: Pics or GTFO

Martyn1989

I have come across none of the factors mentioned in the OP and Im fairly sure 99% of the lads I know do not want a girl in a lads body.

Roadtrippin

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I can't troll, it would be like a Priest sinning.

I can be one of them hipposters.

A priest sinning??? That never happens, does it? Oh wait...

Yes, if you like and it gives you a spring in your step, than by all means be a hipp(O)ster :P

I bet you, you are either a rockstar or in your teens to early twenties though... Or from D4 (just kidding)

Battered Mars Bar

decembersun77 wrote: »

rough, tough nut women
having babies
48 hours a week
strength of horse
woman in a man's body
GAA families
interested in GAA
primary teaching or nursing

Wow OP! It's amazing, it's like you've taken everything I would hate in a woman and morphed it into one, thanks.

But actually it does sound a lot like what most GAA small village syndrome irish men would want, so well done on that astute observation.

Old Tom

shopaholic01 wrote: »

BTW there is nothing worse than someone in their 30's trying to be trendy - it just looks desperate.

Unless you are Colin Farrell, Brad Pitt, Johnny Knoxville, etc. I understand :cool:


Yep, everyone in their 30's should start saving for a coffin :rolleyes:

The King of Moo

Every Irish man's dream, apparently.

shopaholic01

Old Tom wrote: »

Unless you are Colin Farrell, Brad Pitt, Johnny Knoxville, etc. I understand :cool:


Yep, everyone in their 30's should start saving for a coffin :rolleyes:

Judging by your name you're well on the way so :rolleyes:

Siuin

The King of Moo wrote: »

Every Irish man's dream, apparently.

I thought rugby chicks were where it's at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLU2guAWc9Y

Motorist

Old Tom wrote: »

Yep, everyone in their 30's should start saving for a coffin

I think the State pays for your coffin if you cant afford one yourself. It's just cheap wood but it does the job. I suppose it's not in the public interest to have dead bodies lying around the place.

Old Tom

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Judging by your name you're well on the way so :rolleyes:

I have the money but can't decide on the model...

shopaholic01

Old Tom wrote: »

I have the money but can't decide on the model...

It's worse than buying a car :rolleyes::D

The King of Moo

Siuin wrote: »

I thought rugby chicks were where it's at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLU2guAWc9Y

I think some men might settle for that, even if they do insist on playing a garrison game .

Old Tom

shopaholic01 wrote: »

It's worse than buying a car :rolleyes::D

Isn't it? :pac:

Now, excuse me, but I'm gonna jump into my converse and pop out get a pizza :cool:

Battered Mars Bar

Old Tom wrote: »

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Judging by your name you're well on the way so :rolleyes:

I have the money but can't decide on the model...

Nothing too trendy now

Old Tom

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Nothing too trendy now

Would this do?

Defiler Of The Coffin

decembersun77 wrote: »

Which are better personality and looks wise, Irish men or foreign men Or it doesn't matter because men are men?

This is completely subjective. An Irish girl in Ireland might be sick of the carry on of some of the guys here, drinkin, schmokin, fightin, whatever have ya. This could well lead to them finding the cultured and refined tastes (:pac:) of foreign men more appealing. On the other hand as Siuin mentioned some girls might find the different style of humour and the directness off-putting. Indeed, some may find the ability to kick a pig's bladder around a field and skullin 10 pints afterwards during the parish social very attractive traits. It's all about what you are into. Familiarity can breed contempt.

Then you have the girls in foreign lands. Take Australia. Girls there go mad for the musical accents and kind mannerisms of the the Irish lads. Compared to the butch, macho, abrasive Aussie guys it's no wonder the Irish there are very popular. With all the Irish bars over there it's easy to find them as well! So it's all about what's fresh and interesting.

decembersun77 wrote: »

From what I have seen, a lot if not most Irish men are attracted to rough, tough nut women who can do everything like climbing mount everest one day and having babies the next day like it's nothing while working 48 hours a week and holding everything together and has the strenght of horse and still look okay. It seems that Irish men basically want a woman in a man's body. Also seem to be very interested in women who come from GAA families or are very interested in GAA and they are attracted to women who are in a stable, steady professions like primary teaching or nursing etc. or women who are wealthy and have some social status.

You've got a negative reaction from people in this thread because you've deviated from the first question you asked and generalised Irish men into a narrow stereotype of what they look for in a partner. A rural stereotype too... tsk tsk. Are you from the country yourself? People's priorities change in life when they get older as well. You may well be attracted to a different 'type' in later years.

decembersun77 wrote: »

What is wrong with the cool, down to earth, girl next door type? I know not all Irish men have the same interest in women but many of them do have the same type.

Absolutely nothing!

decembersun77 wrote: »

What is your experiences of Irish men? I know there are many that are very nice. A good few of my friends who are lovely, intelligent women were single for a long time and some are still and I don't understand why. One of them is going out with a foreign guy, he is not high maintance like many Irish men are, well from my experiences. Does it matter if what nationality men are anyways because men are men? or is there a difference

Other foreign guys may well be 'high maintenance' as you put it. You sound quite young, nationality doesn't matter that much in the greater scheme of things as long as you have a connection with the person. I know a good few Polish guys who would be into their drinking and partying as much as any Irish guy.

CavanCrew

I prefer irish men to be honest, maybe its culture thing.

Less of a facade, more real, even their cringeworthy attempts at pulling are at least comical unlike some foreign men who nearly declare their love for you from the get go,

but you cant judge as a whole, Im just going on my experiences.

christmas2012

some foreigners(not all) tend to have more manners and are less insulting or ''jokey'' as irish guys can be..but maybe thats just what i have seen so far..

shopaholic01

christmas2012 wrote: »

some foreigners(not all) tend to have more manners and are less insulting or ''jokey'' as irish guys can be..but maybe thats just what i have seen so far..

I love that about Irish guys!

I_am_LOST

I LOVE Irish guys sense of humour. Can't beat it anywhere else in the world. And, although I'm Irish myself, I think we have the best accent in the world as well.

That said, in my experiences (and I'm not for one second thinking this is what the majority of Irish men and foreign men are like), Irish men tend to come across very needy and desperate for the ride when you meet them on a night out. The foreign men I've talked to don't seem to try so hard...they're just friendly and will have a great chat with ya, bit of flirting, whatever. They don't come across as if they want you back in bed as soon as possible.

That said, those are only my experiences abroad. Back in Ireland, a lot of foreign men I meet in bars/clubs are extremely sleazy.

Again just my experiences and not trying to generalise here.

Daveysil15

I_am_LOST wrote: »

I LOVE Irish guys sense of humour. Can't beat it anywhere else in the world. And, although I'm Irish myself, I think we have the best accent in the world as well.

That said, in my experiences (and I'm not for one second thinking this is what the majority of Irish men and foreign men are like), Irish men tend to come across very needy and desperate for the ride when you meet them on a night out. The foreign men I've talked to don't seem to try so hard...they're just friendly and will have a great chat with ya, bit of flirting, whatever. They don't come across as if they want you back in bed as soon as possible.

That said, those are only my experiences abroad. Back in Ireland, a lot of foreign men I meet in bars/clubs are extremely sleazy.

Again just my experiences and not trying to generalise here.

I tend to agree with you. I think Irish girls have a great sense of humour too once you get to know them. However they do have more of a barrier up and are not as open to been approached by strangers. Once you get past that barrier they can be great craic.

Ficheall

I_am_LOST wrote: »

Back in Ireland, a lot of foreign men I meet in bars/clubs are extremely sleazy.

They could just be trying to fit in to the Irish socialising scene without the required alcohol intake?

shopaholic01

Old Tom wrote: »

Would this do?

Perfect, Tom, just perfect

Eve_Dublin

When I lived in Ireland, I never noticed foreign guys out in the bars. Seemed it was the foreign women that socialised with us more. My foreign female friends were all female. You'd rarely meet a Polish guy in a bar in Dulin back in the day, for example even though there were thousands of them. I could never meet a foreign guy there even if I wanted to. Just an observation.

Micky Dolenz

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

When I lived in Ireland, I never noticed foreign guys out in the bars. Seemed it was the foreign women that socialised with us more. My foreign female friends were all female. You'd rarely meet a Polish guy in a bar in Dulin back in the day, for example even though there were thousands of them. I could never meet a foreign guy there even if I wanted to. Just an observation.

These days, them foreigners are everywhere,.

Petre

Motorist wrote: »

The GAA thing, mostly in rural areas, is like having wealth. If you're 3/10 on the looks scale, it will add a good 3 points to your status meaning you can bag a member of the opposite sex who is a six or a seven. If she has low self-esteem you might even bag at an 8/10.

Case in point - http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00204/gooch_204540t.jpg

An Irish woman who's an 8/10 with low self-esteem? Hahaha. 8/10 Irish woman literally think they are exempt from excretion, no exaggeration.

Petre

decembersun77 wrote: »

even if your a guy it can be hard to meet someone here.

Are you suggesting under normal circumstances it's usually harder in Ireland to meet a member of the opposite sex if you're a girl rather than a guy?? Please say you're joking.

jaffacakesyum

Petre wrote: »

An Irish woman who's an 8/10 with low self-esteem? Hahaha. 8/10 Irish woman literally think they are exempt from excretion, no exaggeration.

Honestly, what are you, 12?

No real man goes on about a woman being an 8/10 or a 4/10 or whatever, like you constantly do. There's no such thing. Beauty is subjective.

I've never heard a man talk like you. You're pathetic.

hondasam

decembersun77 wrote: »

It seems that Irish men basically want a woman in a man's body.

Do they really, are you sure all Irish men want this? Thought all men liked boobs.

Martyn1989

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

My foreign female friends were all female.

Did you double check?

Petre

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Honestly, what are you, 12?

No real man goes on about a woman being an 8/10 or a 4/10 or whatever, like you constantly do. There's no such thing. Beauty is subjective.

I've never heard a man talk like you. You're pathetic.

Beauty is objective. Attraction is subjective. Categorizing women into numbers to rate their levels of beauty is an efficient way of gauging their stuck-upedness. But apparently doing that is a thought crime and therefore now allowed. :rolleyes:

Petre

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Honestly, what are you, 12?

No real man goes on about a woman being an 8/10 or a 4/10 or whatever, like you constantly do. There's no such thing. Beauty is subjective.

I've never heard a man talk like you. You're pathetic.

And tell me, what is a "real man" to you? The shemales Irish women typically go for are certainly not "real men" on any level.

Petre

Daveysil15 wrote: »

generally foreign men stick to their own kind.

With good reason; Irish women are too high maintenance in their opinion. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Micky Dolenz

Petre wrote: »

With good reason; Irish women are too high maintenance in their opinion. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Mod

Don't post in this thread again.

Siuin

Any views from people who don't have a chip on their shoulder...?
Must say, rather hate these threads about foreign VS homegrown -- always descends into the bickering and generalisations we see here

Deus Ex Machina

Seems like some people are a bit judgemental. If you're talking to a 2 in a bar and you act like she should be doing cartwheels with joy for the fact that you'd spare a moment to talk to a lowly creature like her then you're most likely going to get a bit of an attitude back. People don't like being treated like that, whether they're a 2 or a 10.

Micky Dolenz

Siuin wrote: »

Any views from people who don't have a chip on their shoulder...?
Must say, rather hate these threads about foreign VS homegrown -- always descends into the bickering and generalisations we see here

If it's any consolation, every nation thinks the same way about their own.

hondasam

Siuin wrote: »

Any views from people who don't have a chip on their shoulder...?
Must say, rather hate these threads about foreign VS homegrown -- always descends into the bickering and generalisations we see here

Usually from people with too much time on their hands. Men are men foreign or homegrown.

kitty9

i have a big mickey girls. check me out :pac::pac:

Us IRISH men are better than foreigners

The King of Moo

If you think so little of the opposite sex that you refer to them simply as numbers which you've assigned based on their attractiveness, don't be too surprised if they don't seem that interested in you.