Pronunciations that drive you mad

Pherekydes

validusername1 wrote: »

BattleCorp wrote: »

In fairness, most people can't pronounce any other words in german either.

My point was just that it annoys me when people learn the proper pronunciation but still pronounce it the wrong way, not whether people should automatically know which way to pronounce German words

To be fair, no one knows how to pronounce German words automatically. Even Germans have to learn them.

languagenerd

validusername1 wrote: »

My point was just that it annoys me when people learn the proper pronunciation but still pronounce it the wrong way, not whether people should automatically know which way to pronounce German words

Loanwords are an awkward subject, because there's no rule in English for dealing with them. In French, for example, almost every borrowed word is prononced as if it were a French word (except Playstation for some reason!), and it's the same with a lot of things in Spanish.

So technically, you're entitled to pronounce loanwords as they would be pronounced in your native language. It would be wrong if they were speaking German and said "lih-dil", but not so much if they're speaking English, French, Spanish, Turkish, Swahili, etc!

(Having said that... I hate when people pronounce the J in "fajitas", but that's because it sounds vaguely dirty in English :pac: - reminds me of vajazzle :P)

validusername1

languagenerd wrote: »

Loanwords are an awkward subject, because there's no rule in English for dealing with them. In French, for example, almost every borrowed word is prononced as if it were a French word (except Playstation for some reason!), and it's the same with a lot of things in Spanish.

So technically, you're entitled to pronounce loanwords as they would be pronounced in your native language. It would be wrong if they were speaking German and said "lih-dil", but not so much if they're speaking English, French, Spanish, Turkish, Swahili, etc!

(Having said that... I hate when people pronounce the J in "fajitas", but that's because it sounds vaguely dirty in English :pac: - reminds me of vajazzle :P)

haha well jees your name fairly suits the topic at hand anyway lol but ok

Sea Filly

grindle wrote: »

OUCH!
I guess I've gotten used to saying 'got' in the incorrect situation (all of the situations: I've gotten lazy), and you're correct to point it out.

Excellent catch, Wibbs.
I'd doff my cap but I'm usin' it to knob me bird.

'Gotten' is wrong in ALL situations, in this neck of the woods anyway.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gotten

dark crystal

When people pronounce nuclear as nuke-u-ler insytead of new-clear.

grindle

Sea Filly wrote: »

'Gotten' is wrong in ALL situations, in this neck of the woods anyway.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gotten

Re-read your link.

The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard

British English might be the de facto standard, but I can see the use for 'gotten'.
Although, your post backs up my previous assertion, so SCREW YOU, WIBBS!

Bloody word-tyrant.

Sea Filly

grindle wrote: »

Re-read your link.


British English might be the de facto standard, but I can see the use for 'gotten'.
Although, your post backs up my previous assertion, so SCREW YOU, WIBBS!

Bloody word-tyrant.

You're right, of course, but I don't think 'gotten' could ever be considered more correct than 'got'.

Wibbs

Gotten seems to be present in some Hiberno English. I've noted older people of different backgrounds(in Dublin anyway) using it. I didn't lick it from a stone anyway and I would generally not use that many American English expressions/words. It would make sense if it was present in HE. It's an archaic usage and we have other examples of that in HE.

daveyboy_1ie

mtnh wrote: »

Yes, which is even more annoying.

The "Y" should not be pronounced as a vowel. Pronouncing it as a consonant would be the correct Korean pronunciation. I have no idea why they insist on HIGHundai.

I think to be even more pedantic the correct pronunciation is hyun-day and not dye, but that doesn't bother me as much!

Funny thing is I used to work for Hyundai and was once in a 3 day seminar in Seoul with representatives from all the oversea markets and at the end of the seminar one of the organisers of the event took to the pedastal and said he had heard MANY pronunciations of the word Hyundai over the event and would like to inform people that the correct pronunciation is actually hee-un-day and would like us to at least take this piece of wisdom away from the 3 days. He said it with a smile but it was oobvious it had p*ssed him off listening to the word being mispronounced in probably at least 20 different accents.

fricatus

On their ads in America, it's pronounced Hoon-day (sort of rhyming with "one day").

promethius42

Folk pronouncing scallops as scollops.

Ruralyoke

Someone mentioned LIDL - what about ALDI?

I pronounce it as AL (to rhyme with pal) DEE.

I've heard ALL DEE quite a lot.

It could well be correct but I hate it nonetheless and will also proudly continue to say AL DEE regardless.

mikemac1

Sc owen

Not scon

You sound like a toff

Getronicle

When medicine is pronounced "med-sin"

Crooked Jack

Scon

not sc owen

You sound like a toff

Sea Filly

Wibbs wrote: »

Gotten seems to be present in some Hiberno English. I've noted older people of different backgrounds(in Dublin anyway) using it. I didn't lick it from a stone anyway and I would generally not use that many American English expressions/words. It would make sense if it was present in HE. It's an archaic usage and we have other examples of that in HE.

Yeah, I don't think 'gotten' is wrong and pretty much all Irish people (me included) I know seem to use it, but it's not really "correct". But saying "I've got" sound strange to me. 'Gotten' is definitely less common in the UK.

LukeS_

Lorry. Say it as it's spelt! Not feckin' lurry!

Most words that are used around Foxrock/Blackrock/Dalkey areas too.

pickarooney

Getronicle wrote: »

When medicine is pronounced "med-sin"

That and 'plice'.

mikemac1

taaaaaaay

The mammys in the council housing across the road are fond of it
Jacintaaaaaaaaa, coooome innn for yar taaaaaaay


What's tea anyway?
Sounds very middle England to me but seems to be the done thing in parts of Dublin
Growing up we stayed out working and are not back until supper :cool:

elPadrino

plys wrote: »

Auld Dubliners replace 'by the time' with "AGEN"

ie instead of:

'By the time I got to the shops...'

they say..

'Agen I got to the shops...'

might be a little OT since, istead of being a mispronunciation, they've INVENTED A NEW F**KING WORD!!!! :eek:

(any Dubs care to try explain this to me..??!)

I'm a Dub and have never actually heard this expression used here. I do have family from Galway, and have often heard it used down there.

Gbear

A football related one:

Roberto Mar-t'nez

It's MARTEENEZ! You'd think the gob****es on sports news channels who spend their entire professional life saying people's names would make a point of getting them right.

Ruralyoke

pickarooney wrote: »

'plice'.

don't get it?

promethius42

Pissketti (spagyetti)
Ler (layer)
Yogurt (Yoghurt)

jimmymal

inG in english-english. bringgg, callingg, pronounced by the english is like they trip over it whereas we run straight through it and almost ignore it the way its supposed to be. CALLINg,

ah, i feel like im wafflin now.

Malari

Ruralyoke wrote: »

don't get it?

I think it refers to people who prounounce the word "police" as "plice" instead of "pole-iss" :cool:

Ruralyoke

D'oh - of course:o

i kept reading it as "plyce" and wondered

Ruralyoke

bluewolf wrote: »

i kept reading it as "plyce" and wondered

Me too.

And for some reason thought of Bowie (I'm a huge fan) saying the word "place" in one of his many wonderful tracks.

Then I realised I was more likely thinking of "fice" (for face)

I'm 99% sure I've seen this said already, but I just have to vent.

Folly. Follied.

One of my relations says folly instead of follow, follied instead of followed, and she manages to work it into conversation every time I talk to her. It drives me nuts.

girl2

My granny calls cappuccino - cappatino.

uch

Too lazy to read the rest of the posts but I'm from Dublin and I hate the word Yisser, as in "get yisser flags"

up for anything

My ex always used the word capture instead of caption no matter how many times I corrected him. In the end it made me spit silently.

I was just down at the petrol station and a woman asked me for directions to Clonmel. I explained the roundabouts and the ring road (long way round but easiest for a stranger) and she repeated them to me to make sure she had them right and kept saying right at the first ringabout and then about 6 ringabouts and left at the last ringabout. It made me laugh.

girl2

up for anything wrote: »

My ex always used the word capture instead of caption no matter how many times I corrected him. In the end it made me spit silently.

I was just down at the petrol station and a woman asked me for directions to Clonmel. I explained the roundabouts and the ring road (long way round but easiest for a stranger) and she repeated them to me to make sure she had them right and kept saying right at the first ringabout and then about 6 ringabouts and left at the last ringabout. It made me laugh.

That made me laugh too!

LH Pathe

My 'pal', seems to pronounces every E before R as a U on tenturhooks that fella

/no it's an emphasis thing. Like surve oh; yeah I'd like to serve him one

forfuxsake

Sea Filly wrote: »

Yeah, I don't think 'gotten' is wrong and pretty much all Irish people (me included) I know seem to use it, but it's not really "correct". But saying "I've got" sound strange to me. 'Gotten' is definitely less common in the UK.

gotten is US English and got UK.

I always use got now but I am pretty sure I used gotten before a stint as an English teacher.

Sea Filly

forfuxsake wrote: »

gotten is US English and got UK.

I always use got now but I am pretty sure I used gotten before a stint as an English teacher.

Yeah, it blew my mind a few years ago to discover than 'gotten' is technically wrong. It sounds so right! :pac::o

Sea Filly

girl2 wrote: »

My granny calls cappuccino - cappatino.

Ah, that's kinda cute.

Qualitymark

'Louth' and 'Meath' pronounced with a soft 'th', so 'Louth' rhymes with 'mouth'; I think this comes from English broadcasters - there's a Louth in England that is correctly pronounced like this, but Louth and Meath in Ireland should be, and always have been until now, pronounced with a hard 'th' as in the word 'the'.

Had to laugh at 'cappatino'. Joyce got a dig in at Gogarty when he had stately plump Buck Mulligan joyously saying 'Thalatta' in Ulysses (which was itself always pronounced 'You-LISS-aze' until the 1970s, when it morphed into 'YOU-liss-aze'); thalassa is Greek for 'sea' and was the joyous cry of the retreating Greeks when they spotted their home ocean after fleeing from Persian nasties; thalatta is a foamy coffee drink.

pickarooney

Technically, it's obsolete (in the UK).

Sea Filly

pickarooney wrote: »

Technically, it's obsolete (in the UK).

What is?

az2wp0sye65487

jimmymal wrote: »

inG in english-english. bringgg, callingg, pronounced by the english is like they trip over it whereas we run straight through it and almost ignore it the way its supposed to be. CALLINg,

ah, i feel like im wafflin now.

You mean 'wafflinG' ??

pickarooney

Sea Filly wrote: »

What is?

'gotten'

Giselle

A family friend pronounces umbrella as umber-ella, and arthritis as arter-itis. It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't constantly refer to one or the other.

Very irritating.

Qualitymark

Giselle wrote: »

A family friend pronounces umbrella as umber-ella, and arthritis as arter-itis. It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't constantly refer to one or the other.

Very irritating.

Sea Filly

pickarooney wrote: »

'gotten'

Oh right, it was two posts down and you didn't quote my post.

Ruralyoke

pickarooney wrote: »

Technically, it's obsolete (in the UK).

Huh?

Ill gotten gains?

I get, I got, I have gotten?

starlit

Potato, tomato and yoghurt.

The King of Moo

doovdela wrote: »

Potato, tomato and yoghurt.

Worst recipe ever.

Big Nasty

Jaysis, yizzer punctuality is despreh! :eek:

starlit

The King of Moo wrote: »

Worst recipe ever.

Lol ha ha ha its not a recipe! :pac:

Creme Fraiche or sour cream (same thing) be a better option than yoghurt if it a recipe with potato and tomato!
Unless it soup!