Cameras in Mc Donalds toilets Yes Or No.

jimmynokia

On a recent trip to Mc Donalds in Arklow This is whats to be found in the cubicles in the toilets.

Now personally i find this wrong and the thoughts of peoples kids etc going to use the toilet,and having cameras in the cubicles.

Anyhow over the past few days ive been doing some investigating and to my surprise Mc donalds have came up with the most inane excuses ever.
Albeit there does be some antics going on mainly in dublin is there justification for it to be there.

The store manager said it was pointing at the sink which it clearly is not,you can see the mechanism through the dome lense,these cameras also have the ability to pan,and turn up to 360 degrees.

Mc donalds corp have also replied and said its a sprinkler,which it clearly is not,and they also state its within guidlines and they cant tell from the photograph as to if its a sprinkler or a camera.

Whats your thoughts on this people?

Here is the data protection act regarding CCTV.
http://t.co/ohpzIxnC

This is on behalf of a friend of mine.

shopaholic01

Food is pretty **** too.

biko

That's not a cubicle, it looks to be overlooking the main part of the toilet?
Were there cameras in the cubicles themselves too?

Sindri

jimmynokia wrote: »

Anyhow over the past few days ive been doing some investigating

Are you the freak whose been standing in the jacks with a magnifying glass?

FatherLen

ha its kind of ironic that you are giving out about cameras in toilets and you clearly took a photo in the toilet.

but agree cameras in toilets are weird.

hondasam

I'm sure they are not recording or filming people going to the toilet, I'm sure it's actually illegal and they would be sued.

I would be more worried about adults using the toilet than kids tbh.

Ficheall

biko wrote: »

That's not a cubicle, it looks to be overlooking the main part of the toilet?
Were there cameras in the cubicles themselves too?

It's over a urinal though...

jack presley

Wasn't there a story a few years back (can't remember if it was a McDonald's or even in Ireland) where one of these cameras caught a bloke deliberately splashing water from the sink onto the floor then faking that he slipped so he could make a compo claim?

hondasam

jack presley wrote: »

Wasn't there a story a few years back (can't remember if it was a McDonald's or even in Ireland) where one of these cameras caught a bloke deliberately splashing water from the sink onto the floor then faking that he slipped so he could make a compo claim?

Supermacs Galway.

Tabnabs

OP, report it to the data commissioner:

Proportionality – what images will be captured?

The location of cameras is a key consideration. Use of CCTV to monitor areas where individuals would have a reasonable expectation of privacy would be difficult to justify. Toilets and rest rooms are an obvious example. To justify use in such an area, a data controller would have to demonstrate that a pattern of security breaches had occurred in the area prior to the installation of the system such as would warrant constant electronic surveillance. Where such use can be justified, the CCTV cameras should never be capable of capturing images from cubicles or urinal areas.

http://dataprotection.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=242

biko

Can't wait for their youtube channel
www.youtube.com/mcdonalds-toilets

mongdesade

Section 2(1)(c)(iii) of the Data Protection Act regarding what images will be captured by CCTV...

"Use of CCTV to monitor areas where individuals would have a reasonable expectation of privacy would be difficult to justify.
Toilets and rest rooms are an obvious example.
To justify use in such an area, a data controller would have to demonstrate that a pattern of security breaches had occurred in the area prior to the installation of the system such as would warrant constant electronic surveillance.
Where such use can be justified, the CCTV cameras should never be capable of capturing images from cubicles or urinal areas."

Recessionbust

jimmynokia wrote: »

On a recent trip to Mc Donalds in Arklow This is whats to be found in the cubicles in the toilets.

Now personally i find this disgusting and the thoughts of peoples kids etc going to use the toilet,and having cameras in the cubicles.

Anyhow over the past few days ive been doing some investigating and to my surprise Mc donalds have came up with the most inane excuses ever.

The store manager said it was pointing at the sink which it clearly is not,you can see the mechanism through the dome lense,these cameras also have the ability to pan,and turn up to 360 degrees.

Mc donalds corp have also replied and said its a sprinkler,which it clearly is not,and they also state its within guidlines and they cant tell from the photograph as to if its a sprinkler or a camera.

Whats your thoughts on this people?

Here is the data protection act regarding CCTV.
http://t.co/ohpzIxnC

Ok that is a camera, Its a fixed dome which is static, the casing is made to look like a pan and tilt camera and it also protects the camera from been tampered with etc.
I have 6 of these in my shop and have had them in various units over the years they do not move unless you get a ladder and take the case off them.
The coverage area of them is not great either but regardless it is not right that they have them and they should if nothing else have a sign stating that "CCTV operates in this area"

frozenfrozen

Title is a bit misleading but to be honest i don't think its bad, its to stop people doing weird/illegal things in there.

Shane St.

u obviously have a smally willy

Sleepy

I'm going to guess that in order to see the camera from the toilet, you'd have to be standing on it and the cameras view of the cubicle would be of the closed door.

Look on youtube for the video of the two scumbags throwing water on the floor in order to claim they slipped in it so they could sue Supermacs...

jimmynokia

Sindri wrote: »

Are you the freak whose been standing in the jacks with a magnifying glass?

WHAT A STUPID ANSWER No investigating as to the laws

jimmynokia

Shane St. wrote: »

u obviously have a smally willy

Its bigger than yours:D

paddydriver

This thread is takping the piss a little

Lionel Messy

Camera in the jacks? This could be my big break!

im invisible

Domo230 wrote: »

They're conducting a study on the penis size of the average McDonalds customer and will soon be realising data that shows McDonalds customers have bigger penises than those who go to Burger King.

something something Whopper...

Lionel Messy

hondasam wrote: »

Supermacs Galway.

The beacon of sophistication and fine dining, i'm sure.

Charles Dickens

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Title is a bit misleading but to be honest i don't think its bad, its to stop people doing weird/illegal things in there.

Be that as it may, it remains, nevertheless, an affront to personal dignity and an invasion of privacy of the highest order.

Cheezypuf

I'd be straight on to the data protection commissioner. A camera over a urinal is crazy.

Fighting Irish

small cock?

TheBody

The camera would need a wide angle lens to fit my HUGE cock into the frame!!:D

Nothingbetter2d

McPorno vouchers will soon handed out in Arklow McD's

Nothingbetter2d

TheBody wrote: »

The camera would need a wide angle lens to fit my HUGE cock into the frame!!:D

lol if McD's call a big mac a huge burger then your penis is quite small

Yamanoto

I'm guessing McD's are within their rights to place cameras in that location to protect themselves from nuisance litigation.

That is not a cubicle OP.

Dad who faked fall in Supermac's faces sentence

A MAN who brought a fraudulent circuit court claim for fake injuries is facing a sentence of 200 hours community service.
Ronan Quinlivan (23), a father-of-two from Inishannagh Park, Galway, pleaded guilty at Galway District Court yesterday to two charges of attempted false pretences. Inspector Tony O'Donnell told the court that the charges arose out of a circuit court civil claim taken by the accused against Supermac's Ireland.

The case was proceeding in the court and, just prior to the hearing, the legal team representing Quinlivan became aware of a video tape showing the accused in the toilets of Supermac's at Eyre Galway throwing water onto the floor and practising a fall.

That information caused his legal team to withdraw the case, without going to a full hearing.

The matter was subsequently referred to the Director of Public Prosecutions and was now before the court.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dad-who-faked-fall-in-supermacs-faces-sentence-182554.html

Where To

What's wrong with cameras in toilets anyway?

If you're not doing anything wrong what have you got to hide?

antodeco

I always remember my brother thought our local McDs had a 'McWipe'. It was actually those hand 'McWash' yoked, but he thought there was an automatic arse wiper thing.

kitty9

Where To wrote: »

What's wrong with cameras in toilets anyway?

If you're not doing anything wrong what have you got to hide?

my massive cock of course

UglyBolloxFace

jimmynokia wrote: »

WHAT A STUPID ANSWER No investigating as to the laws

Maybe you should spend less time investigating toilets, and more time on fixing your sarcasm detector.

ScumLord

sugarman wrote: »

Being where its placed makes it impossible for it to view the urinals, even if it does rotate 90degrees the pan is also fairly limited.

It looks like the one on our house, you'd be lucky to see someones face while standing at the urinal.

It's a dome camera so it rotates 360 in most directions. It's right above the urinal so it would have no problem seeing everything that happens at those urinals.

The Snipe

Someone got nabbed shagging in Micky D's

jimmynokia

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Maybe you should spend less time investigating toilets, and more time on fixing your sarcasm detector.

Maybe if the camera was not in your face the minute you walk in the bloody toilet.:p

crazygeryy

Op has to much time on his hands.just go in take a piss and piss off.

Lionel Messy

The Snipe wrote: »

Someone got nabbed shagging in Micky D's

Were they serving up some mayonaise?

Nhocht

In my opinion, the toilet is one of the few remaining bastions of privacy. What I do in a toilet is my business as long as I am not breaking any laws. There are plenty of establishments with public toilets and never have I seen another with a CCTV in it. Futhermore, this is backed up by the Data Protection Act.

Gummy Panda

So OP has little periwinkle?

mikeym

I suppose if theres pervs, junkies or weirdos using the toilets there should be cctv.

Martyn1989

As previously mentioned, just because theres a dome on it dosn't mean it swivels, even if it could the range of motion probably wouldn't get the urinals. CCTV in bathrooms is very common and they are always placed over the urinals looking torwards cubicle doors, sinks and the door in. McDonalds jacks are a haven for all sorts of dodgey carry on and I'd imagine they have plenty of justification for it. No-one wants to see your pee-pee.

jimmynokia

Gummy Panda wrote: »

So OP has little periwinkle?

No its a MC whopper try and keep on topic rather than the childish comments

Martyn1989

Nhocht wrote: »

In my opinion, the toilet is one of the few remaining bastions of privacy. What I do in a toilet is my business as long as I am not breaking any laws. There are plenty of establishments with public toilets and never have I seen another with a CCTV in it. Futhermore, this is backed up by the Data Protection Act.

What you do in your toilet is your business, you can't go into a McDonalds and do whatever you want in the bathroom. :eek:

My name is URL

Where To wrote: »

If you're not doing anything wrong what have you got to hide?

I really hate that argument.. and not just because it's bullshit

Nhocht

Martyn1989 wrote: »

What you do in your toilet is your business, you can't go into a McDonalds and do whatever you want in the bathroom. :eek:

Read the rest of the sentence. I also said "as long as I am not breaking any laws"

smythc

Hey everyone..

I am the originator of the post, I asked my buddy Jimbo to post on my behalf as i was tied up today with work, i took the photo, noone else was present in the bathroom at the time, it was purely for evidence.

All joking aside, I have 3 kids, 4 come August and to think they or anyone else kids may be on camera in a state of undress is totally unacceptable.

On page one someone posted the exact law on the cameras being used in toilets and it clearly states not in cubicles or urinal areas, it doesn't matter if the camera was not quite aimed, the law says if its capable its not allowed.

Someone also mentioned they have these types of camera in their shop and they are not 360 nor are they automated, this may be but the point is they are not allowed in this area.

This is about your privacy as much as kids, but mainly this is about kids.

Cheers

ScumLord

Martyn1989 wrote: »

As previously mentioned, just because theres a dome on it dosn't mean it swivels, even if it could the range of motion probably wouldn't get the urinals.

In the picture the camera is right over the urinal, I don't see how it could avoid seeing the urinal. McDonald's aren't fitting these cameras themselves, they hire in a security company and I would wager they'll put in the expensive swivel camera over the more obscure non swivelling camera housed in a swivelling case.

cocoshovel

To be honest Id be completely fine with that. I dont really care as long as its not actually in a cubicle.

Micky Dolenz

How refreshing to see someone is thinking of the children.

smythc

cocoshovel wrote: »

To be honest Id be completely fine with that. I dont really care as long as its not actually in a cubicle.

but clearly you are not a parent as if you are and this does not bother you then you are a bad parent...period