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Diageo rigged micro-brewers award.

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  • #52
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Give publicans the right to brew beer because there are too few at it .


  • #53
    grenache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Hate Diageo with a passion. They are nothing more than a money making racket. No one company should be legally allowed to own so many brands, most of which are $hite anyway. They recently introduced us to their new Smithwicks Pale Ale, describing it as a "craft beer" :pac::D I dont know which was worse - the taste of the beer or the fact they claimed it to be a craft beer!

    Brewdog on the other hand, are a breath of fresh air. More power to them and the craft brewing industry.


  • #54
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Sky King wrote: »
    Beer lines are allocated according to the publicans preference and installations are grant aided by the three main breweries on this basis. There's no 'limit' to the number of lines in a pub, and breweries don't 'battle for them'. The only limit is the physical space for the beer line python and of course the beer cooler capacity (though there's nothing stopping the publican adding a plug-in flash cooler at their bar if there's no space in the main line cooler).

    And as for other breweries 'damaging beer lines' that's just plain daft.

    That's fine for an original instillation but not down the road when you have a limited amount of lines and you want to remove Bud and Carlsberg to replace with craft beers. Obviously Diageo will provide you with incentives (free kegs) to hold on to same.


  • #55
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    Not drinking Diageo brands anymore. It sickens me to think that such a massive, profitable corporation could try to damage such a small competitor with such spite and ruthlessness. I've been drinking Guinness for 20 years. Not anymore. Besides, I know there are much better stouts out there now that they've f**ked Guinness up beyond recognition. Vive la revolution.


  • #56
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Besides, I know there are much better stouts out there now that they've f**ked Guinness up beyond recognition.

    It has become so bland. The Budweisers of stout.


  • #57
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Not drinking Diageo brands anymore. It sickens me to think that such a massive, profitable corporation could try to damage such a small competitor with such spite and ruthlessness. I've been drinking Guinness for 20 years. Not anymore. Besides, I know there are much better stouts out there now that they've f**ked Guinness up beyond recognition. Vive la revolution.

    what is your stout of choice now?


  • #58
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    eth0 wrote: »
    what is your stout of choice now?

    I like O'Hara's and Porterhouse plain. Got some really nice ones from Oddbins recently who's names escape me. Still many left to try. And try I will.


  • #59
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Best stout-O'Haras.

    Best porter-Dark Arts. Yum. :)


  • #60
    Jimmyhologram
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭Jimmyhologram


    Whatever you think about Luke Flanagan, he made a great point about alcohol sales and the local economy: his constituency (Roscommon/South Leitrim) spent almost 15 million on draught beer and stout in 2010. Imagine the impact if all of that money was to remain in the area, via local craft breweries?


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  • #61
    grindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    I like O'Hara's and Porterhouse plain. Got some really nice ones from Oddbins recently who's names escape me. Still many left to try. And try I will.
    Amazing.
    Amazing.
    Amazing.

    On-topic: Grrr, how dare Diageo do this, etc.


  • #62
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    skoomi wrote: »
    Scummy tactics:



    The story from BrewDog themselves:

    http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/diageo-v-brewdog


    EDIT: Fixed link.

    'fcukin hell!'


  • #63
    Blackjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,621 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    It's not completely unbelieveable that it could happen though. Let's face it, pubs are quietier and Diageo and Heineken are often refusing to travel to rural pubs to drop 1/2 kegs. Local breweries can pick up the slack. Also, most pubs have identical stock, can you imagine if every restaurant had the same menu? Pubs greatly need to diversify and provide alternatives to the pub next door.

    True, but the craft brewers are having issues regarding distribution too. There's also the brand loyalty, which in fairness is more a case of "the devil you know".

    If bars outside of the craft pubs could be bothered to market craft beers - by that i mean more than "what are you having" when a punter arrives at the bar - they may steal a march on the larger commercial brewers....


  • #64
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Jimmyhologram wrote: »
    Whatever you think about Luke Flanagan, he made a great point about alcohol sales and the local economy: his constituency (Roscommon/South Leitrim) spent almost 15 million on draught beer and stout in 2010. Imagine the impact if all of that money was to remain in the area, via local craft breweries?
    That's a great point, you should write it in an email and send it to Ming, he could try and push for some sort of reduced tax on local beers to make them more competitive. Ireland could drink it's way out of the recession.


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