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Song War 8: Holy Wars Vs Cemetery Gates

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  • 09-05-2012 8:54pm
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    Riddle101
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    I feel Pantera and Megadeth need to be covered in one of these threads. So I have decided to put them against each other. For the songs choices I went for Holy Wars by Megadeth and Cemetery Gates by Pentera, both of which are argubly the best songs from both bands so I think it will be interesting to see if I can get create some division in this thread.

    For my choice I went for Cemetery Gates. I'm not really a big fan of Megadeth anyway, and Cemetery Gates has that nice tune that I like, before it get's heavy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ww3XH4zEg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjHPNPcgn64

    Which song do you prefer? 40 votes

    Holy Wars
    0% 0 votes
    Cemetery Gates
    100% 40 votes


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    GLaDOS
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    Two top songs, however Cemetery gates gets the nod for me. Is more dynamic and has a lot more soul than Holy Wars, with Dimebag's Talent really shining through.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    nyarlothothep
    Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Cemetery Gates by a long shot. I don't even like Pantera that much but they had some good tunes and Megadeth are boring to me, completely based in technique. Incidentally did you know that Phil Anselmo is a huge Smiths fan? It seems ironic that one of the hardmen of metal likes The Smiths.

    "I adore them: the honesty and great songwriting, and everybody in the band is just a badass."

    And Cemetery Gates is the name of a Smiths song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMwu6OoGo4


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    lord lucan
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    Megadeth for me. Cemetery Gates is a rocker but Holy Wars edges it for a class tune and great message.


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    Kess73
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    Holy Wars for me. Great tune to work a heavy bag to.


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    D.Q
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    This ones for the cause! Holy Wars by a long sot for me. One of the best metal songs ever written, the intro riff is an absolute ballbuster, and the thrash/solo section towards the end is absolutely brilliant.


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    LH Pathe
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    Incidentally did you know that Phil Anselmo is a huge Smiths fan? It seems ironic that one of the hardmen of metal likes The Smiths.

    that's messed up. that's why phils messed up... always hated ansalmo's unhinged act as I saw it, he was a fairy metaller before that but stick morrisey in pantera n I would swoon. *sigh* .. the handful of hardcore fans I knew were similarly 'unhinged' knuckleheads so I go Holy Wars. Pantsera did never do it for me..


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    Malice
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    LH Pathe wrote:
    that's messed up.
    Yeah, a metal vocalist liking non-metal music is a disgrace.


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    #9
    deeks
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    Holy Wars all the way


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    Nailz
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    Strangely enough I was listening to "Cemetry Gates" by the Smiths when I opened up this thread, nice coincidence. Already knew Anselmo liked the Smiths. I agree with Malice's sarcasm in his comment, big deal; I would think less of him if he didn't listen to anything else but Metal, it's a silly plain minded view to have in all honesty. And on a side note there is nothing wrong with the Smiths, they're great band I reckon.

    Love both bands, but I love PanterA more. Savage band, nothing short of that; but I voted for Holy Wars... The Punishment Due because I just think it's better than Cemetery Gates, Holy Wars is class, and I think PanterA have dozens upon dozens of songs that I think are better, but that's not to say Cemetery Gates isn't a good track, just not as good.


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    Banjo
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    Holy Wars, no contest. Cemetery Gates is a grand tune but it takes real genius to marry serious socio-political commentary on the influence of church over state to the plot of the Punisher - delivered in the first person, no less - with a straight face.


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    DrumSteve
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    Gonna go with Holy Wars...

    Why?

    Cos it's Holy Wars! "This one is for the cause!"


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    Max Power1
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    lord lucan wrote: »
    Megadeth for me. Cemetery Gates is a rocker but Holy Wars edges it for a class tune and great message.
    This +1 for me

    Also, as much as I like Pantera, Dave Mustaine is god.


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    Catari Jaguar
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    Cemetary Gates hands down. Just a phenomenal vocal. Dynamic & tempo are perfect too. So stunning, goosebump beautiful. *sigh*


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    Catari Jaguar
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    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Dave Mustaine Phil Anselmo is god.

    FYP :p


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    Kersh
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    Cemetary Gates for me!

    :)


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    Riddle101
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    It's certainly a balanced thread this time around. Glad I went for this:D.


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    Tarkus
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    It's certainly a balanced thread this time around. Glad I went for this:D.

    ;)

    Love me some Pantera but Holy Wars is a winner of biblical proportions...


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    Max Power1
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    Catari Jaguar wrote: »
    FYP :p

    YWMP

    you wrecked my post :P


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    sham69
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    Very close on this one but I went for Holy Wars.
    Love the riff and the solos.
    I love Pantera but not mad on Cemetary gates as a song, I know most pantera fans class it as one of the best but I was never a huge fan of it.


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    buck65
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    Holy Wars, no contest. Great song , Cemetery Gates is a bit formulaic for me.


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    Just Like Heaven
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    Can't believe Pantera are losing.


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    Dan_Solo
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    fewtinsoffroth wrote: »
    Can't believe Pantera are losing.
    I can. I went for Pantera too, but Megadeth are 10 times as popular.
    I think half their tunes are, well, not very tune-ish myself.:D


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    Pyr0
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    The songs are a bit too different to have going against each other I think.


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    Acacia
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    Cemetary Gates!!! Awesome song- amazing vocals, melody, lyrics and riffage! The Smiths reference is cool too- them and Pantera are two of my favorite bands.


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    Somnus
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    Cemetary Gates all the way for me. I've never gotten into Megadeth. But I amn't a fan of thrash at all so I'm a little biased there.

    Love the great melodies in Cemetary Gates, the rocking chorus, solo, and just think it's a better song overall.

    It's a tight poll though!


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    Dan_Solo
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    Dr.Poca wrote: »
    Cemetary Gates all the way for me. I've never gotten into Megadeth. But I amn't a fan of thrash at all so I'm a little biased there.
    Oh no, metal subcategorisation time... can't Pantera be thrash too please?:D


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    SouperComputer
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    I voted Holy Wars.

    Cemetery Gates is a good song, Holy Wars is a great one. Cemetery Gates is a bit too predicable and cyclical. Fairly typical dynamics. Holy Wars is much of a riff rollercoaster (riffercoaster?) with a few different tempos and sections.

    JMHO.


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    TheStickyBandit
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    Pantera for me. Looks like its going down to the wire this time!


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    Dan_Solo
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    SouperComputer wrote: »
    Cemetery Gates is a bit too predicable and cyclical. Fairly typical dynamics. Holy Wars is much of a riff rollercoaster (riffercoaster?) with a few different tempos and sections.
    That's what turns me off Megadeth a lot, where I adore Peace Sells or Symphony of destruction. A lot of their songs drift off into jazz or prog or something awful, and no, I don't think they have that many killer riffs to pretend they can fit 10 into every tune.


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    Cill94
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    Holy Wars by a metal mile. Hairs stick up on the back of my neck every time I hear that opening riff. It's pretty much a perfect song for me.


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