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Hitler on Wikipedia

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  • #102
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    I heard auld Adolf and Eva invented The Golden Shower, everyone rejoice in the wet smell of Ammonia, yeh...


  • #103
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Whats not well known, probably because of the media's liberal bias, is that Hitler was the first single mother.


  • #104
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The commies built a block of flats over his bunker in Berlin. Dam reds! I want the bunker reopened, its of historical importance to curious history nerds such as myself.


  • #105
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Mainly because most people didn't A. It was a group thing and it was a personally disconnected (...........snip........) you build hell.

    Its been argued - rather well - that the reason notions of 'German exceptionalism' (Germans as a nation/race of militarists/anti-semites distinct from all others) is so popular is that it helps people and states evade questions they might ask of themselves with regard to their own potential for atrocity. Personally I think its time to exam such items in their world context, rather than let the rather 'wartime propaganda' narrative continue unchallenged.


  • #106
    tfitzgerald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    When his mother was pregnant with hitler his mother wanted to have an abortion but her Jewish doctor talked her out of it:(


  • #107
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    tfitzgerald wrote: »
    When his mother was pregnant with hitler his mother wanted to have an abortion but her Jewish doctor talked her out of it:(

    So we shouldn't be blaming Hitler for WW2 and the holocaust, it was the jews who were responsible for it. I knew it.


  • #108
    mbur
    Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭mbur


    Nodin wrote: »
    Its been argued - rather well - that the reason notions of 'German exceptionalism' (Germans as a nation/race of militarists/anti-semites distinct from all others) is so popular is that it helps people and states evade questions they might ask of themselves with regard to their own potential for atrocity. Personally I think its time to exam such items in their world context, rather than let the rather 'wartime propaganda' narrative continue unchallenged.
    Talking about potential:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3PtbHip6A


  • #109
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Nodin wrote: »
    Its been argued - rather well - that the reason notions of 'German exceptionalism' (Germans as a nation/race of militarists/anti-semites distinct from all others) is so popular is that it helps people and states evade questions they might ask of themselves with regard to their own potential for atrocity. Personally I think its time to exam such items in their world context, rather than let the rather 'wartime propaganda' narrative continue unchallenged.
    QF fcuking T N.

    Every one of us reading this might have been the petrified man, woman, or child whip herded to our own doom, every one of us might have been a member of SS Disinfection group 1 dropping in cyanide crystals to seal that doom, every one of us might have turned our gaze away. History has shown very very few of us would resist.

    Personally when I regard such a thing in my head, I'll admit the victims occupy quite a small portion of that regard. I share their horror and sympathy and fear, but more I share and really fear the part of me that could well have been one of those who in small way or gross perpetrated that horror. That to me is the bigger question and fear. IMHO it should be the question we all ask ourselves when faced with choices, when any choice is a potentially worrying one.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #110
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Nodin wrote: »
    Its been argued - rather well - that the reason notions of 'German exceptionalism' (Germans as a nation/race of militarists/anti-semites distinct from all others) is so popular is that it helps people and states evade questions they might ask of themselves with regard to their own potential for atrocity. Personally I think its time to exam such items in their world context, rather than let the rather 'wartime propaganda' narrative continue unchallenged.

    The notion of German exceptionalism though was a correct one. They had just spent the last few hundred years at the forefront of science, literature and philosophy. The notion of 'Germanic' exceptionalism was also popular due to the position Germany had or had had as a fledgling super power and was quite common among other nations at the time, particularly after the advent of romanticism.


  • #111
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sindri wrote: »
    The notion of German exceptionalism though was a correct one. They had just spent the last few hundred years at the forefront of science, literature and philosophy. The notion of 'Germanic' exceptionalism was also popular due to the position Germany had or had had as a fledgling super power and was quite common among other nations at the time, particularly after the advent of romanticism.


    ...I mean specifically the notion of Germans being an exceptionally violent and militaristic people as held by others post WWII upto today, rather than German views of their own identity. It's as if all of German history consisted of war, marching, Pickelhaube and a concentration camp.


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  • #112
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,556 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Personally when I regard such a thing in my head, I'll admit the victims occupy quite a small portion of that regard. I share their horror and sympathy and fear, but more I share and really fear the part of me that could well have been one of those who in small way or gross perpetrated that horror. That to me is the bigger question and fear. IMHO it should be the question we all ask ourselves when faced with choices, when any choice is a potentially worrying one.

    Wibbs, I think you might like this book. Assuming you haven't already read it.


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