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Do you go to Mass regularly?

  • 11-05-2012 11:51pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭supernova84


    I used to when I was a pup but now it's only once a year at Xmas. I find it all rather boring if I'm honest. Do you be going regularly?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    If by "to mass" you mean "drinking", then yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    No, it's for religious nutters and really, really, really old people (100+). People who go to mass now are just looking for favours. I long for the day that masses are all cancelled due to lack of interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    If a Catholic close friend/family member married or died, I'd go to their wedding/funeral. That's about the height of it. Was last at a funeral around three years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Regular means re occurring at fixed times. The only time I would ever enter a church is for a funeral, that's the only time you don't have a choice really. So yes I do go regularly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    No.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Funerals, weddings - that's it. Don't do the whole Easter/Xmas thing anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I have friends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Every day,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Sarky wrote: »
    If by "to mass" you mean "drinking", then yes.
    Well 'mass' generally means a gathering of people.....so as long as you're not drinking alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Dudess wrote: »
    Every day,

    Sarcasm detector just exploded... :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Whats with all these insipid threads lately? Eh, Im not complaining. Beats moaning and complaining I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭celtictiger32


    no i dont agree with cults


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    I bring my kids most weeks


    The way I see it, is If I have gone to the effort of having them christened and going to an r catholic school then why wouldn't I bring them to mass?

    It's a nice quiet hour once a week, time to reflect and be quiet in myself. Relaxing for me. I find it therapeutic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Every sunday morning at 11


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    Last time I went I dropped Jesus out f my mouth and on t the ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Quality wrote: »
    It's a nice quiet hour once a week, time to reflect and be quiet in myself. Relaxing for me. I find it therapeutic

    Apart from the whole stand up, sit down, now kneel, up again bull**** and the murmuring crowd that reminds me of death, yea it's quiet...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    It all depends on how often someone I know is getting married or has died.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭celtictiger32


    le la rat wrote: »
    Last time I went I dropped Jesus out f my mouth and on t the ground

    hes had worse days sure didnt the general nail him to a snooker table ...........maybe im getting my stories mixed up;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    Do you be going regularly?
    What for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Would never set foot in a church again...

    besides, I think if I did, everyone in there would turn and look at me like this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    Yes - I go regularly, and I don't regard myself in anyway holy or particularly good living.

    I have kids that I bring to Mass and I insist they go. If, when they reach the age of 16, they feel that it is not for them, then I'm happy for them to bow out.

    Masses are very well attended in Armagh (although have still suffered significant decline over the years), and I have to say I feel a sense of belonging by going, altough I would prefer not to go into the spiritual side of things here.

    Seeing the Catholic Church and Catholics individually suffer so grievously at the hands of loyalist paramilitaries over the troubles was another reason why I was determined to attend - people up here were killed for their faith and I never lost sight of that.

    The Catholic Church is under attack again, as evidenced by so many posts and threads on these boards, but an awful lot of that is very much self inflicted. However my attendance at Mass was never to worship any priest or bishop, and the wrongs of so many has not impacted on my faith.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    So you're just going to spite the prods? Awesome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Yes - I go regularly, and I don't regard myself in anyway holy or particularly good living.

    I have kids that I bring to Mass and I insist they go. If, when they reach the age of 16, they feel that it is not for them, then I'm happy for them to bow out.

    Masses are very well attended in Armagh (although have still suffered significant decline over the years), and I have to say I feel a sense of belonging by going, altough I would prefer not to go into the spiritual side of things here.

    Seeing the Catholic Church and Catholics individually suffer so grievously at the hands of loyalist paramilitaries over the troubles was another reason why I was determined to attend - people up here were killed for their faith and I never lost sight of that.

    The Catholic Church is under attack again, as evidenced by so many posts and threads on these boards, but an awful lot of that is very much self inflicted. However my attendance at Mass was never to worship any priest or bishop, and the wrongs of so many has not impacted on my faith.

    So are you holy or not? sounds like your a cultural catholic forcing it on your kids for the sake of sectarianism..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    Sarky wrote: »
    So you're just going to spite the prods? Awesome.

    What's it to you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Yes - I go regularly, and I don't regard myself in anyway holy or particularly good living.

    I have kids that I bring to Mass and I insist they go. If, when they reach the age of 16, they feel that it is not for them, then I'm happy for them to bow out.

    Masses are very well attended in Armagh (although have still suffered significant decline over the years), and I have to say I feel a sense of belonging by going, altough I would prefer not to go into the spiritual side of things here.

    Seeing the Catholic Church and Catholics individually suffer so grievously at the hands of loyalist paramilitaries over the troubles was another reason why I was determined to attend - people up here were killed for their faith and I never lost sight of that.

    The Catholic Church is under attack again, as evidenced by so many posts and threads on these boards, but an awful lot of that is very much self inflicted. However my attendance at Mass was never to worship any priest or bishop, and the wrongs of so many has not impacted on my faith.
    How do you mean self-inflicted? It tends to be because of not being a believer and/or objecting to wrongdoings by the organisation surely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    What's it to you?

    You're helping to keep ****ty sectarianism alive, so it means something to all Irish people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    What's it to you?

    Forcing kids to go because it's tradition/expected/the family way is just a tad silly. Doesn't happen so much in Ireland (ROI) tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    The benches are hard, the priests are middle aged out of touch men engaged in homiletics who try and tell you how to live your life while you parrot back inane mumblings about something that cannot possibly be substantiated and that rests on claims of phenomenon that break the laws of physics all so you can alleviate anxiety and fear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    Dudess wrote: »
    How do you mean self-inflicted? It tends to be because of not being a believer and/or objecting to wrongdoings by the organisation surely.

    The actions of many within the church have caused the attacks on the church. A lot of these attacks /criticisms are justified.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Dudess wrote: »
    How do you mean self-inflicted? It tends to be because of not being a believer and/or objecting to wrongdoings by the organisation surely.
    I think he meant the reason for the RCC coming under attack largely came about by the actions of certain members of the RCC hierarchy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Nah I can understand someone embracing their religious identity more, whatever it is, in Northern Ireland. Obviously I don't excuse hatred towards those of other faiths up there though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Links234 wrote: »
    Would never set foot in a church again...

    besides, I think if I did, everyone in there would turn and look at me like this

    you'd probably walk out in a huff then when you'd realise nobody gave a fiddlers! :rolleyes:

    i go to mass regularly, nobody cares who i am when i walk in either, we're there for mass, not to gawk awkwardly at each other!

    Quality wrote: »
    I bring my kids most weeks


    The way I see it, is If I have gone to the effort of having them christened and going to an r catholic school then why wouldn't I bring them to mass?

    It's a nice quiet hour once a week, time to reflect and be quiet in myself. Relaxing for me. I find it therapeutic


    this pretty much covers it for me too, i find it relaxing to take a bit of time out and reflect on things, plus the gospel and the readings usually give me a lot to think about and reflect upon.

    they have a sunday school then for the children in the church i go to aswel where students from the local teacher training college involve the kids in activities and teach them about catholicism in terms they'll understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Yup, I attend regularly enough.. different services, different times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    RichieC wrote: »
    You're helping to keep ****ty sectarianism alive, so it means something to all Irish people.

    A new one on me - by attending Mass, I'm accentuating sectarianism!! :rolleyes:

    Anything else you'd like me to change? - give up my Irish passport? Change the names of the kids? Change their schools? The sports I play?

    Any advice would be helpful Richie - happy to turn my back on who I am in the aid of eradicating sectarianism!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    bwahahahaaa!!!!!! oh I accidentally :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    A new one on me - by attending Mass, I'm accentuating sectarianism!! :rolleyes:

    Anything else you'd like me to change? - give up my Irish passport? Change the names of the kids? Change their schools? The sports I play?

    Any advice would be helpful Richie - happy to turn my back on who I am in the aid of eradicating sectarianism!!

    you said yourself ffs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Never. Especially not at Christmas.

    I've been in more mosques, synagogues and gurdwaras in the last ten years than I have churches.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    RichieC wrote: »
    you said yourself ffs...

    No I didn't - you obviously can't read!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    I have kids that I bring to Mass and I insist they go. If, when they reach the age of 16, they feel that it is not for them, then I'm happy for them to bow out.
    That actually pisses me off that you would force someone until the age of 16 to attend something simply because it fits in with your own personal ideals. When they're old enough to articulate that they don't wish to be there, they're old enough to not be forced to go. I don't see what you think you're achieving by forcing them- if anything it'll simply make them more bitter towards the Catholic Church.

    I say this as someone who attends services twice a week-- if my child ever said they would rather not go, I would not in a million years tell them otherwise. Faith is a wholly personal matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Confab wrote: »
    Forcing kids to go because it's tradition/expected/the family way is just a tad silly. Doesn't happen so much in Ireland (ROI) tbh.

    It doesn't happen much in Dublin, but it happens on quite a large scale -for various reasons - in most of the rest of the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    Siuin wrote: »
    Faith is a wholly personal matter.

    As is parenting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    As is parenting.
    Parenting is not a 'wholly personal matter' because it involves more than just one person making choices for themself. Believe it or not, that child is an individual in their own right too, and they have the right to establish themselves as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,348 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Often but not by choice other wise depends on the weekend and date may or may not go wouldn't bother me not going but go regularly but not every weekend but most weekends yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    As is parenting.

    Faith involves one person. Parenting involves more than one person. To say it is personal, is to completely ignore the personality of the child.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Siuin wrote: »
    Parenting is not a 'wholly personal matter' because it involves more than just one person making choices for themself. Believe it or not, that child is an individual in their own right too, and they have the right to establish themselves as such.

    Do you let your child eat whatever they want? Watch whatever they want? Yadda, yadda..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    prinz wrote: »
    Do you let your child eat whatever they want? Watch whatever they want? Yadda, yadda..
    The decision of what to eat is a health issue- deciding to force one's child to go to mass (the Catholic Church, none the less, given their great ole record with how they've treated kids) is completely counterproductive. If the parent has their own ideological reasons for being there, fine, but they should not force them on the child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Can you make that point clearer, please?

    It's pretty clear as it is. Parents are there to parent. Going to 16 may be a tad extreme but to say a child is there to "establish themselves as an individual" at the expense of good parenting is just codology.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Siuin wrote: »
    Faith is a wholly personal matter.

    As is parenting.

    well said sir! its something that's not said often enough around here! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Siuin wrote: »
    If the parent has their own ideological reasons for being there, fine, but they should not force them on the child

    As a matter of interest do you feel the same about feeding a child meat? Or feeding the child a vegetarian diet etc? Where do you draw the line between what is up to the parent.... and what is up to the child to decide for themselves? Is it ideological not to want your child to watch films rated 18's for example? Is a parent allowed to decide that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    prinz wrote: »
    It's pretty clear as it is. Parents are there to parent. Going to 16 may be a tad extreme but to say a child is there to "establish themselves as an individual" at the expense of good parenting is just codology.
    I really don't see how 'good parenting' involves forcing a child to sit through services when they simply do not want to be there. It's a pretty good way of making them resent the church and/or the parent, but you can't FORCE a child to believe in God or Catholic doctrine


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