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  • 12-05-2012 10:54am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭


    Have an exam in an hour, need to find this out.

    when the smoking ban first came in in ireland, was there general uproar? or did they all settle down after a couple of weeks and accept it?

    SPANX. :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    There was that riot on O'Connell street when it was announced, and the protest where people went into the Dáil and started smoking.

    They're the two things I remember most: make sure to mention those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    Have an exam in an hour, need to find this out.

    when the smoking ban first came in in ireland, was there general uproar? or did they all settle down after a couple of weeks and accept it?

    SPANX. :confused:

    There was about 23 health inspectors gutted and strung up from the rafters of pubs in Dublin as far as a I remember.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    People were raped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Think of it logicially; if someone took away your comfort zone what would you think? If someone was hell bent on taking away your livelihood how would you feel. I think you know the answer now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    HAR HAR HAR.

    :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover_53


    Also the famous serial killer who appeared around that time Jack the Passive Smoker

    He'd blow smoke into people faces while they slept on Nitelinks

    He was never caught. I don't think he was very successful though. Be sure to mention it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    HAR HAR HAR.

    :confused:

    Do you not know what you're laughing at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    The smoking ban showed everyone that the average pub dweller is one smelly bástard. That and people fart in pubs...a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    Have an exam in an hour, need to find this out.

    when the smoking ban first came in in ireland, was there general uproar? or did they all settle down after a couple of weeks and accept it?

    SPANX. :confused:

    What on gods earth is your exam about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover_53


    There was uproar as people realised the smell of smoke in the pubs had been masking the smell of fart for years.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Sindri wrote: »
    Do you not know what you're laughing at?


    No just confused as to why i named this thread " you wise people "


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    No just confused as to why i named this thread " you wise people "

    I'm confused as to why you're looking for information here instead of using Google.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    Everybody bought 20 packs and stood united in the pub puffing them like chimney's as the clock ticked around to 12 and the law came in to force. As soon as the clock chimed 12 everyone stubbed out their cigarette, hugged each other and quietly moved to the smoking area.

    Conformance, the Irish way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Doyler92 wrote: »
    What on gods earth is your exam about?

    the state and the individual from the area of health.

    power of the state blah blah blah blah
    how ireland are quite compliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    I'm confused as to why you're looking for information here instead of using Google.


    there is nothing on google on peoples opinions. Just HSE guidelines and I was 13 at the time, so i dont remember.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover_53


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    the state and the individual from the area of health.

    power of the state blah blah blah blah
    how ireland are quite compliant.

    Just write that, you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,977 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No, on the whole there was not. Few minor objections but mostly it was surprisingly quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    there is nothing on google on peoples opinions. Just HSE guidelines and I was 13 at the time, so i dont remember.

    13 is a bad age to have to leave the pub and go outside to smoke. Good chance your parents will see you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    looksee wrote: »
    No, on the whole there was not. Few minor objections but mostly it was surprisingly quiet.

    Thank God, a decent reply.
    That is what i thought as there is no literature on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    People made stupid arguments about how it was stupid.

    Others just didn't care and continued smoking in pubs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    It was introduced during the summer as well, so most people complied. The biggest outrage was from publicans. It contributed to the closure of a lot of pubs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    there is nothing on google on peoples opinions. Just HSE guidelines and I was 13 at the time, so i dont remember.

    Jesus, you young people really don't study like we used to.

    http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/General-News/Mixed-reaction-to-Ireland-s-smoking-ban

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3565899.stm

    http://www.imn.ie/view/32-clinical-news/3578-the-smoking-ban-seven-years-on

    That's after about thirty seconds of searching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    Have an exam in an hour, need to find this out.

    when the smoking ban first came in in ireland, was there general uproar? or did they all settle down after a couple of weeks and accept it?

    SPANX. :confused:

    It was worse than the Roy Keane/Saipan incident.

    People set fire to pubs all over the country, with the pub owners and their families sleeping inside. Sometime they woke the owners up, other times they didn't. It all depended on how good the quality of Guinness was in there. Poor and they died, great and they lived.

    Micheál Martin's house was burnt to the ground. When he found a new one that was burnt as well. That process continued for about 6 months until he moved to Afghanistan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew




    ooo helpful, thanks. Il bring in the fact they want to ban it in public parks now too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    It was worse than the Roy Keane/Saipan incident.

    People set fire to pubs all over the country, with the pub owners and their families sleeping inside. Sometime they woke the owners up, other times they didn't. It all depended on how good the quality of Guinness was in there. Poor and they died, great and they lived.

    Micheál Martin's house was burnt to the ground. When he found a new one that was burnt as well. That process continued for about 6 months until he moved to Afghanistan.

    If im ever writing fiction i will give you a call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    There was riots. Some protested on O'Connell street but they were fired upon by an army helicopter pilot.

    This pilot, Ben Ruchards, was later sentenced to life imprisonment but escaped. When he was re-captured, the networks paid large money for him to star in a violent tv show. I think it was called the running man.

    Long story short, some of the show's crew had to split during production


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    Some people pointed towards the free market, a beautiful, natural phenomenon which, if trusted, solves most of these problems, and said fuck dudes, why didn't we use that instead of bringing in draconian legislation?

    A good way of recognising a bad law is if it makes people act stupid when it's enacted. The smoking ban is a perfect example of this: huge areas in bars full of smokers, but because the area is covered by a tent and filled with patio heaters it's legal. Fucking nonsense, get rid of the ban and let pub owners choose if they want to have smoking in their premises. If they choose to ban it themselves and their business fails it's proof that popular opinion doesn't support these businesses, fuck clunky voting processes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,173 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Nothing happened much, apart from the odd publican telling everyone that he was going to die of starvation because no-one would bother their arse going into a pub if they couldn't smoke.

    Smokers headed off in their thousands to the designated smoking-zone in Outer Mongolia, and never came back.

    A few people on here posted that they were going to kill someone, and got banned.

    That was about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    Don't forget that smoking ban in the work place also extended to work vehicles


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    The country was split and there was so much bittterness that people have already forgotton about the civil war. Mick Collins who??

    In Galway the inspectors were thrown into the Corrib
    Drowning was too good for them imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Don't forget that smoking ban in the work place also extended to work vehicles

    Oh ya,... **** one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    There was a publican who refused to acknowledge the ban. He was fined several times for allowing smoking in his pub and finally threatened with prison before he complied. That was the most extreme protest I remember from the time OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    ......and the protest where people went into the Dáil and started smoking.

    Hilarious stuff. 'Down with that sort of thing' posters at the ready :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    There was uproar as people realised the smell of smoke in the pubs had been masking the smell of fart for years.

    Smell of fart took over. Who knew the much maligned smoke had secretly been working undercover as an air freshener.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Some people pointed towards the free market, a beautiful, natural phenomenon which, if trusted, solves most of these problems, and said fuck dudes, why didn't we use that instead of bringing in draconian legislation?

    A good way of recognising a bad law is if it makes people act stupid when it's enacted. The smoking ban is a perfect example of this: huge areas in bars full of smokers, but because the area is covered by a tent and filled with patio heaters it's legal. Fucking nonsense, get rid of the ban and let pub owners choose if they want to have smoking in their premises. If they choose to ban it themselves and their business fails it's proof that popular opinion doesn't support these businesses, fuck clunky voting processes.

    Free markets do not solve every problem and regulation is needed to protect one groups interests, often a weak group. In this case the weak group was employees, who were forced to endure the unhealthy atmosphere produced by customers and allowed by profit hungry employers.

    The protection of minority rights is something which is not catered for adequately in a perfect free market.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Yeah lads, the exam is over, Id say i got a first ! :rolleyes:

    referenced you all. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    Yeah lads, the exam is over, Id say i got a first ! :rolleyes:

    referenced you all. ;)

    Glad to help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    It was worse than the Roy Keane/Saipan incident.

    Not that the OP remembers that either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Not that the OP remembers that either.

    well I was an 11 year old girl at the time with little interest in Roy keane, more into tamagotchis YENO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    well I was an 11 year old girl at the time with little interest in Roy keane, more into tamagotchis YENO.

    Now you are older which side of the argument are you on?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew


    Now you are older which side of the argument are you on?

    Well the spat is irrelevant, but roy keane is still a grump.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    Free markets do not solve every problem and regulation is needed to protect one groups interests, often a weak group. In this case the weak group was employees, who were forced to endure the unhealthy atmosphere produced by customers and allowed by profit hungry employers.

    The protection of minority rights is something which is not catered for adequately in a perfect free market.

    Don't want to be around smoke? Don't work there bro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    CavanCrew wrote: »
    Well the spat is irrelevant, but roy keane is still a grump.

    He is a traitor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I remember there being a bit of annoyance all right - one guy on the Neil Prendeville Show in Cork said "C'mere Neil biy, myself and the wife are tinkin' of emigrating" merely in relation to the smoking ban. And he was serious. Muppet. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Don't want to be around smoke? Don't work there bro.

    In a perfect world yes there would be places that offered non smoking workplaces. The reality is that people have to accept whatever conditions their employer offers because people need money in order to live. People should not have to accept dangerous workplaces through economic necessity.

    Saying "don't work there bro" is too simplistic of an argument and shows that you don't really understand the problem or issue fully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Are they any wiser?:confused:


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