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**Chemistry...Before/After

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  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Mista


    Damn.. I was fairly sure I was right...

    Anyone else find Q5 tricky enough?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    Explain why the pressure of the vapour is the same as atmospheric pressure? Answers please?

    I said because the conical flask isn't pressurized, any excess vapour is allowed to escape through the pinhole.

    and I got 704.95 for Kc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Mista


    ei.sderob wrote: »
    Oh and the question on the rate of raction, what was the shape of the second graph for ye? Mine was less steep due to the lower concentration and it levelled off lower down due to the marble chips being excess like.

    Yeah, mine levelled off at around 20.5g... Did you put time on the bottom? I know you usually put the top line on the bottom, but it didn't feel right :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ivanh


    ei.sderob wrote: »
    Oh and the question on the rate of raction, what was the shape of the second graph for ye? Mine was less steep due to the lower concentration and it levelled off lower down due to the marble chips being excess like.
    Ya that's what I did, wasn't sure about it at first but now I feel confident!

    Thank you :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭Liveforrugby


    Mista wrote: »
    Yeah, mine levelled off at around 20.5g... Did you put time on the bottom? I know you usually put the top line on the bottom, but it didn't feel right :/

    It doesn't matter, you'll get an awkward graph, that's about it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


    It was .. meh


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    ei.sderob wrote: »
    Oh and the question on the rate of raction, what was the shape of the second graph for ye? Mine was less steep due to the lower concentration and it levelled off lower down due to the marble chips being excess like.

    Yup same as mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ei.sderob


    Yeah, I put time at the bottom due to the fact that it was kinda the variable which you were in control of. Not sure where mine leveled off, just a little bit below the other graph I think? Like an inch or so. Twas only an estimate really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


    Fair paper, can't complain. Messed up a few bits myself but that's no-one's fauly but my own. Not sure if I got my A2 but I think I got at least a B1. Might surprise myself :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    Look at it again, look at the arrows

    The arrows can go either way, look at page 258 of chemistry live and the indicator equation in question 10 - they're the exact same equation but the arrows are the other way around.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ei.sderob


    I was soooo close to not seeing the fact that the marble chips weren't in excess!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Geo10


    Q1 was lovely !:D
    Q3 was nice but with some weird parts
    Q4 was doable
    Q5 was nice enough
    Q7 was lovely!
    Q11 gorgeous Qs on Rutherford and niitrigen fixation!

    After these first 6 Qs I did I was very happy!!
    But then the next 2 were awful!

    Q6 was ok but calculation was a disaster!!
    Q10 was awful awful awful
    Part b was ok but I couldn't even do any of c

    Was raging i didn't study rates of rxns!!! I didn't do organic so I couldn't do 2 or 8 either


  • Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hayezer


    Pretty annoyed at the paper, things like that ethene calculation ruined me. Loada silly mistakes aswell, did test for phosphate instead of chloride in water, did green->pink->green instead of pink green pink for sodium tartrate thing. Forgot to divide by 2 in first experiment. GAH loads of small things and then stuff I just didn't know :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Mista


    ei.sderob wrote: »
    I was soooo close to not seeing the fact that the marble chips weren't in excess!

    I always look back to see if theres stuff like that mentioned :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ivanh


    Anyone get 1 test tube for Q2 (e) ?

    :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Maths questions answers I got:

    1. b) 2.65 g Na2CO3 used

    e) i) 2.5 moles/L , ii) 91.25 g/L

    2. e) 8 tubes of ethene

    3. d) Mr = 63

    4. a) i) 5 , ii) 9

    e) Cu + 2NO3 + 4H -> Cu + 2NO2 + 2H2O

    6. e) 224 kJ/mol

    9. 0.00238 g/s - 2M HCl
    1/2 that for 1 M HCl

    10. B) i) 13.7 , ii) 5.69


    11. B) Kc = 704.95


    Somebody tell me, was I right or wrong! I did two extra questions anyways, so I ahve a bit of wiggle room!


  • Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hayezer


    And was so annoyed that I didn't study heat of formation :(. I got all that question right then 0 for the heat of formation part....

    Anyone care to tell how you do the ethene test tube thing? Some people in my school got 8, and people saying here, so I presume thats right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Mista


    Geo10 wrote: »
    Q1 was lovely !:D
    Q3 was nice but with some weird parts
    Q4 was doable
    Q5 was nice enough
    Q7 was lovely!
    Q11 gorgeous Qs on Rutherford and niitrigen fixation!

    After these first 6 Qs I did I was very happy!!
    But then the next 2 were awful!

    Q6 was ok but calculation was a disaster!!
    Q10 was awful awful awful
    Part b was ok but I couldn't even do any of c

    Was raging i didn't study rates of rxns!!! I didn't do organic so I couldn't do 2 or 8 either

    Hmm,
    Q5 was tricky enough I thought..
    Q6 was brilliant I thought, and Q8.
    Q10 was good enough, (c) was a bit dodgy, took a bit of time but overall a good question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭Liveforrugby


    finality wrote: »
    The arrows can go either way, look at page 258 of chemistry live and the indicator equation in question 10 - they're the exact same equation but the arrows are the other way around.

    ... that's my point. In the question the forward reaction was actually

    I3 going to I + I2. Do you understand? You had to either reverse it or inverse your Kc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Pepperr


    I got 13.33 test tubes, rounded down to 13 full ones, didn't even realise that you had to divide by anything in the first experiment Q >.< There goes the A1..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 44 TMCGY


    WHy did you have to divide in the 1st q???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ei.sderob


    Pepperr wrote: »
    I got 13.33 test tubes, rounded down to 13 full ones, didn't even realise that you had to divide by anything in the first experiment Q >.< There goes the A1..

    Got that too. What division are ye talking about? For finding the mass od Na2Co3?


  • Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hayezer


    Pepperr wrote: »
    I got 13.33 test tubes, rounded down to 13 full ones, didn't even realise that you had to divide by anything in the first experiment Q >.< There goes the A1..

    Was never gonna get the test tubes, but not dividing by 2 is so annoying :( Done that kind of question so many times before, and then forget to do it when it matters :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    hollingr wrote: »
    Maths questions answers I got:

    1. b) 2.65 g Na2CO3 used

    e) i) 2.5 moles/L , ii) 91.25 g/L

    2. e) 8 tubes of ethene

    3. d) Mr = 63

    4. a) i) 5 , ii) 9

    e) Cu + 2NO3 + 4H -> Cu + 2NO2 + 2H2O

    6. e) 224 kJ/mol

    9. 0.00238 g/s - 2M HCl
    1/2 that for 1 M HCl

    10. B) i) 13.7 , ii) 5.69


    11. B) Kc = 704.95


    Somebody tell me, was I right or wrong! I did two extra questions anyways, so I ahve a bit of wiggle room!

    Almost exactly the same as mine. I got -224 for the heat though, and pretty sure I messed up the last part of q3. I think all the others are the same as mine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Mista


    Pepperr wrote: »
    I got 13.33 test tubes, rounded down to 13 full ones, didn't even realise that you had to divide by anything in the first experiment Q >.< There goes the A1..

    Ah ye mit get it yet :P

    Yea, there was 0.05 moles in 1000cm, so 0.025 moles in 500cm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭Liveforrugby


    hollingr wrote: »
    Maths questions answers I got:

    1. b) 2.65 g Na2CO3 used

    e) i) 2.5 moles/L , ii) 91.25 g/L

    2. e) 8 tubes of ethene

    3. d) Mr = 63

    4. a) i) 5 , ii) 9

    e) Cu + 2NO3 + 4H -> Cu + 2NO2 + 2H2O

    6. e) 224 kJ/mol

    9. 0.00238 g/s - 2M HCl
    1/2 that for 1 M HCl

    10. B) i) 13.7 , ii) 5.69


    11. B)Kc = 704.95


    Somebody tell me, was I right or wrong! I did two extra questions anyways, so I ahve a bit of wiggle room!

    I got 224 but don't forget the - !

    Did you inverse the kc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭K_1


    Lovely paper delighted with it.

    1,2,3,4, easy.
    Didn't do 5,7, not cos the looked hard but because I had to pick 2 not to do!
    6,8,10,11 very easy.
    9 - I made a balls of the graph, then fixed it, wasted a good bit of time on it though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 TMCGY


    Mista wrote: »
    Ah ye mit get it yet :P

    Yea, there was 0.05 moles in 1000cm, so 0.025 moles in 500cm.

    Yea but it asked in moles per litre??


  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Dicksboro_man


    ei.sderob wrote: »
    I was soooo close to not seeing the fact that the marble chips weren't in excess!
    have the paper in front of me here, "marble chips in excess", where does it say they're not?? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ei.sderob


    Got -2275 or something for 6. Was pretty sure I was right. Isn't a 3 digit number very small when it comes to the heat of formation for such a long alkane?


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