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Dublin Marathon 2012 - 'Improvers' thread

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    #212
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    RayCun wrote: »
    liamog wrote: »
    Going down to a club tonight, possibly going to join up depending on what the experience is like.

    Anybody have experience mixing clubs and training plans.

    Most training plans have at least one session a week at VO2 or tempo pace. Do one club session a week instead of that session. If there's only one V)2 or tempo session a week in your plan, only go to one club session

    Thanks RayCun, was down at Let Cheile tonight for an hour long session. Seemed a pretty good atmosphere and loads of people involved. Would you record mmend being part of a club


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    #213
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    liamog wrote: »
    Thanks RayCun, was down at Let Cheile tonight for an hour long session. Seemed a pretty good atmosphere and loads of people involved. Would you record mmend being part of a club

    I joined a club myself (Bros Pearse AC) a little over a year ago and I've been banging the drum for people to join clubs ever since :)
    It makes your faster runs much easier when you are part of a group, it's great for making sure you don't skip or drop out of sessions.


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    #214
    RedRunner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    RayCun wrote: »
    I joined a club myself (Bros Pearse AC) a little over a year ago and I've been banging the drum for people to join clubs ever since :)
    It makes your faster runs much easier when you are part of a group, it's great for making sure you don't skip or drop out of sessions.

    I've thought about joining a club myself but my biggest fear of joining a club is that they might just be too fast or much higher standard than me and I'll end up not enjoying it anymore. I suppose it depends on the club on how well they integrate newbies. I wonder also if at my age(41) it is a bit late for joining a club. My two sons are members of a club but the organisation of the juvenile section is dreadful so that doesn't fill me with confidence either. Jury is still out for me on this one...


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    #215
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Well I'm 40, so don't let that put you off...

    Best thing is to go down to the club, try a couple of training sessions, see if there are people around your standard and how well the sessions are organised.


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    #216
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    They're seemed to be a great mix of ability at last nights session, from people who had run a number of marathons to people starting out with the Fit4Life schemes.

    The club were very friendly and pretty much told us to try a few more training sessions before they would even ask for membership money. All in all I was very impressed.


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    #217
    Knightmove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭Knightmove


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1| 5 | 40 km | 40 km | Ran the 5 Mile Race in 38:44, happy with the time and 100% completion on training sessions
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|6|88km|88km|Tough start to the week, got easier once I ate more food :)
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|5|24.3m|24.3m|Feeling good and injury free..Long may it continue!
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|5|24m|24m|Glad to get the programme underway...all good!
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|5|37m|37m|1 week down. 17 to go :)
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|5 |34|34| so far so good
    Skidrow|HH inter1|4| 20m|20m |oops i missed one
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|5|33.23m |33.23m|going well so far...:D
    run44|HH inter1|4| 23.2m|23.2m |Missed one, but almost made up for it ;)
    D Chief|P&D -55|5| 58km| 58km|Tús maith, leath na hoibre.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1|5|30M| 30M|Finished Week 2 of Marathon Plan - small niggle in left calf.
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|7|10.4m|36.06m|Feeling good so far. Finding it hard to reduce speed though.
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|7|8mi|33mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|2|16m|16m| Terrible start. Injured after two runs( non running). Back on track week two though.

    Two runs were a 10m general aerobic at 8.30 m/mile pace and then a 6m recovery run at 9.00 m/mile pace


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    #218
    seanie_m
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭seanie_m


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1| 5 | 40 km | 40 km | Ran the 5 Mile Race in 38:44, happy with the time and 100% completion on training sessions
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|6|88km|88km|Tough start to the week, got easier once I ate more food :)
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|5|24.3m|24.3m|Feeling good and injury free..Long may it continue!
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|5|24m|24m|Glad to get the programme underway...all good!
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|5|37m|37m|1 week down. 17 to go :)
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|5 |34|34| so far so good
    Skidrow|HH inter1|4| 20m|20m |oops i missed one
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|5|33.23m |33.23m|going well so far...:D
    run44|HH inter1|4| 23.2m|23.2m |Missed one, but almost made up for it ;)
    D Chief|P&D -55|5| 58km| 58km|Tús maith, leath na hoibre.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1|5|30M| 30M|Finished Week 2 of Marathon Plan - small niggle in left calf.
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|7|10.4m|36.06m|Feeling good so far. Finding it hard to reduce speed though.
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|8|12mi|37mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|2|16m|16m| Terrible start. Injured after two runs( non running). Back on track week two though.


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    #219
    doledude86
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭doledude86


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1| 5 | 40 km | 40 km | Ran the 5 Mile Race in 38:44, happy with the time and 100% completion on training sessions
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|6|88km|88km|Tough start to the week, got easier once I ate more food :)
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|5|24.3m|24.3m|Feeling good and injury free..Long may it continue!
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|5|24m|24m|Glad to get the programme underway...all good!
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|5|37m|37m|1 week down. 17 to go :)
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|5 |34|34| so far so good
    Skidrow|HH inter1|4| 20m|20m |oops i missed one
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|5|33.23m |33.23m|going well so far...:D
    run44|HH inter1|4| 23.2m|23.2m |Missed one, but almost made up for it ;)
    D Chief|P&D -55|5| 58km| 58km|Tús maith, leath na hoibre.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1|5|30M| 30M|Finished Week 2 of Marathon Plan - small niggle in left calf.
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|7|10.4m|36.06m|Feeling good so far. Finding it hard to reduce speed though.
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|8|12mi|37mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|2|16m|16m| Terrible start. Injured after two runs( non running). Back on track week two though.
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|10|27m|53m| 36:35 in the Irish Runner, in week 3 now due to a week off for warm weather training in 2wks haha.


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    #220
    iliketorun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ✭iliketorun


    Hi, just wondering what others think/do in terms of running at their goal marathon pace. I'm aiming for 2 45 so will have to run about 3.9 mins/km.
    Its a big difference from last years 3 20, but I was so badly trained then. I ran up to 21 miles at a slightly faster pace than the actual marathon. I wouldn't dream of doing anything like that again, but I'm curious what would others perceive as a safe maximum distance to run at marathon goal pace. I can easily do 39 mins 10k, but is there a distance I could test at this time(16 weeks until marathon) to see if you would be capable of running the pace for entire race. Maybe 10mile/half marathon in race series, at target pace would be good idea??? If I do the half marathon in September though, I'd be afraid a full effort would damage the rest of the training before marathon.
    Thanks


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    #221
    seanie_m
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭seanie_m


    iliketorun wrote: »
    Hi, just wondering what others think/do in terms of running at their goal marathon pace. I'm aiming for 2 45 so will have to run about 3.9 mins/km.
    Its a big difference from last years 3 20, but I was so badly trained then. I ran up to 21 miles at a slightly faster pace than the actual marathon. I wouldn't dream of doing anything like that again, but I'm curious what would others perceive as a safe maximum distance to run at marathon goal pace. I can easily do 39 mins 10k, but is there a distance I could test at this time(16 weeks until marathon) to see if you would be capable of running the pace for entire race. Maybe 10mile/half marathon in race series, at target pace would be good idea??? If I do the half marathon in September though, I'd be afraid a full effort would damage the rest of the training before marathon.
    Thanks

    Why, what happened? I would have thought that was a good thing, thats what I had planned on doing but not anymore I guess! New to running so bear with me, apologies if its a stupid question..


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    #222
    RedRunner
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    Ran the Clontarf Half today instead of my LSR for this weekend and 5m pace run. The plan was to see if I could run it at PMP to see where I was in terms of my goal for 4hr marathon. Mixed results for me. Although I played golf yesterday which has left me with lower back pain before during and after race. So a few pain killers before the race and a dose of deep heat.

    Went with 2 hr pacers(who did a great job btw) and was going well till about 10 mile mark when the wheels fell off.Just didn't have it in the legs to keep going at the pace required. Not a big fan for running in the heat either, so that didn't help.I know excuses excuses...:) Threw a gel down but can't say I noticed any great effect,still not sure if those things are any use. Anyway finished in 2:03 which is goo insofar as my previous PB was 2:10 but wondering now if 4hr marathon is just too far a stretch for me as I was struggling in last mile or two today.

    Hopefully this is just down to me not having a lot of LSRs done at this stage in the training? Anybody got any words of wisdom for me on this?


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    #223
    sideline warrior
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭sideline warrior


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1| 5 | 40 km | 40 km | Ran the 5 Mile Race in 38:44, happy with the time and 100% completion on training sessions
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|6|88km|88km|Tough start to the week, got easier once I ate more food :)
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|5|24.3m|24.3m|Feeling good and injury free..Long may it continue!
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|5|24m|24m|Glad to get the programme underway...all good!
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|5|37m|37m|1 week down. 17 to go :)
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|5 |34|34| so far so good
    Skidrow|HH inter1|4| 20m|20m |oops i missed one
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|5|33.23m |33.23m|going well so far...:D
    run44|HH inter1|4| 23.2m|23.2m |Missed one, but almost made up for it ;)
    D Chief|P&D -55|5| 58km| 58km|Tús maith, leath na hoibre.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1|5|30M| 30M|Finished Week 2 of Marathon Plan - small niggle in left calf.
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|8|12mi|37mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|2|16m|16m| Terrible start. Injured after two runs( non running). Back on track week two though.
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|10|27m|53m| 36:35 in the Irish Runner, in week 3 now due to a week off for warm weather training in 2wks haha.


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    #224
    seanie_m
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭seanie_m


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1| 5 | 40 km | 40 km | Ran the 5 Mile Race in 38:44, happy with the time and 100% completion on training sessions
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|6|88km|88km|Tough start to the week, got easier once I ate more food :)
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|5|24.3m|24.3m|Feeling good and injury free..Long may it continue!
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|5|24m|24m|Glad to get the programme underway...all good!
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|5|37m|37m|1 week down. 17 to go :)
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|5 |34|34| so far so good
    Skidrow|HH inter1|4| 20m|20m |oops i missed one
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|5|33.23m |33.23m|going well so far...:D
    run44|HH inter1|4| 23.2m|23.2m |Missed one, but almost made up for it ;)
    D Chief|P&D -55|5| 58km| 58km|Tús maith, leath na hoibre.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1|5|30M| 30M|Finished Week 2 of Marathon Plan - small niggle in left calf.
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|2|16m|16m| Terrible start. Injured after two runs( non running). Back on track week two though.
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|10|27m|53m| 36:35 in the Irish Runner, in week 3 now due to a week off for warm weather training in 2wks haha.


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    #225
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|||24.3m|
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|||24m|
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|||34|
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|||53m|


    Table cleared for week 2 checkins


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    #226
    doledude86
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭doledude86


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|||24.3m|
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|||24m|
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|||34|
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #227
    RedRunner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|||24m|
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -55|||34|
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #228
    Lizzy C
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Lizzy C


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|||24m|
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #229
    Mike D
    Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭Mike D


    Lizzy C wrote: »
    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|9|16mi|41mi|Did the first 5k today with a friend around UCD, 19:15, needless to say the last 3k were tougher than usual... mount anville hill never again
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays

    Good week


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    #230
    Knightmove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭Knightmove


    Ran 44m this week. 5 runs. 15m long run at 8.30 m/mile pace. This was my first run over 12 miles since April...felt comfortable. Tempo run which included 4 miles at 15k pace (6.51) was more challenging. The four miles were done in 6.39, 6.46, 6.56 and 6.46. A tad erratic and not very controlled. The reality is I haven't got used to that pace of running yet. However, overall a good week.


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    #231
    seanie_m
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭seanie_m


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|||88km|
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #232
    Micilin Muc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1||| 40 km |
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|12|86km|174km|Easier than Week 1. Two hill races coming up in Week 3 :D
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #233
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Is the sessions completed not meant to be this weeks sessions, either that or you are all training like a boss?

    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1|5|36.5 km| 76.5 km |swapped one of the shorts for a weekly club session. Joining up with Le Chéile AC this week.
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|12|86km|174km|Easier than Week 1. Two hill races coming up in Week 3 :D
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55||| 58km|
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #234
    seanie_m
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭seanie_m


    liamog wrote: »
    Is the sessions completed not meant to be this weeks sessions, either that or you are all training like a boss?

    Well I can only speak for myself here... But I thought they were sessions per day? ;)


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    #235
    Clearlier
    Registered Users Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    RedRunner wrote: »
    Ran the Clontarf Half today instead of my LSR for this weekend and 5m pace run. The plan was to see if I could run it at PMP to see where I was in terms of my goal for 4hr marathon. Mixed results for me. Although I played golf yesterday which has left me with lower back pain before during and after race. So a few pain killers before the race and a dose of deep heat.

    Went with 2 hr pacers(who did a great job btw) and was going well till about 10 mile mark when the wheels fell off.Just didn't have it in the legs to keep going at the pace required. Not a big fan for running in the heat either, so that didn't help.I know excuses excuses...:) Threw a gel down but can't say I noticed any great effect,still not sure if those things are any use. Anyway finished in 2:03 which is goo insofar as my previous PB was 2:10 but wondering now if 4hr marathon is just too far a stretch for me as I was struggling in last mile or two today.

    Hopefully this is just down to me not having a lot of LSRs done at this stage in the training? Anybody got any words of wisdom for me on this?

    I wouldn't worry about it too much at this stage. You've only just started your training plan and it aims to have you peak for the marathon.

    It sounds like the reason you slowed down was due to lack of miles in your legs rather than a lack of glycogen (which is what a gel would help with). Your plan starts out at 24mpw and peaks at near double that. You'll be able to manage the half marathon in the plan much better because you'll be better trained.

    Your half marathon and your training runs closer to the date will give you a much better read on whether you're ready to hit 4hrs or not.


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    #236
    D Chief
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭D Chief


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1|5|36.5 km| 76.5 km |swapped one of the shorts for a weekly club session. Joining up with Le Chéile AC this week.
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|12|86km|174km|Easier than Week 1. Two hill races coming up in Week 3 :D
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55|5|67.5km| 125.5km|Week 2 went ok. Did ok on yesterday's 21k with 13k PMP, but 42k at that pace?? Early days yet though.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays


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    #237
    irfrm
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭irfrm


    D Chief wrote: »
    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1|5|36.5 km| 76.5 km |swapped one of the shorts for a weekly club session. Joining up with Le Chéile AC this week.
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|12|86km|174km|Easier than Week 1. Two hill races coming up in Week 3 :D
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|||37m|
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55|5|67.5km| 125.5km|Week 2 went ok. Did ok on yesterday's 21k with 13k PMP, but 42k at that pace?? Early days yet though.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays
    irfrm|run world| 1|5m|5m|week 1 runners world 3:15 program
    Started training program today, 16 weeks schedule, hope it goes as well as P&D 55 miles for Cork City marathon.


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    #238
    lipi
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭lipi


    I've just signed up for marathon no.3

    I did Dingle in 2010 in 4 hr 15 and Cork 2012 in 3 hr 57. My half PB is 1 hr 47.

    Would like to get under 3hr 45 but would take 3 hr 50.

    Any suggestions for a training plan? I followed Hal H novice 1 and 2. I'd no problem getting the runs in the first year but 4 runs a week this time was hard going at times as had a baby last summer. So I don't want a plan with loads of mileage as I just don't have the time. Am willing to put in quality runs though.....


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    #239
    Lizzy C
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Lizzy C


    lipi wrote: »
    I've just signed up for marathon no.3

    I did Dingle in 2010 in 4 hr 15 and Cork 2012 in 3 hr 57. My half PB is 1 hr 47.

    Would like to get under 3hr 45 but would take 3 hr 50.

    Any suggestions for a training plan? I followed Hal H novice 1 and 2. I'd no problem getting the runs in the first year but 4 runs a week this time was hard going at times as had a baby last summer. So I don't want a plan with loads of mileage as I just don't have the time. Am willing to put in quality runs though.....


    Sorry I can't be of any help because I'm doing P & D 33-55 per week which might be a bit too much mileage.
    I wonder though what you did to shave nearly 20 mins off your marathon time - I did 4:10 in my first marathon and am going for sub 4 in my second one, so any tips would be great! :D


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    #240
    beeduybe
    Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭beeduybe


    Name|Plan|Sessions Completed|Miles/KM This Week| Total Miles/KM | Comments
    liamog|HH Inter 1|5|36.5 km| 76.5 km |swapped one of the shorts for a weekly club session. Joining up with Le Chéile AC this week.
    Micilín Muc|P&D:55-70|12|86km|174km|Easier than Week 1. Two hill races coming up in Week 3 :D
    RedRunner|HH Inter 1|10|29.56m|53.86m|Replaced 5mPace +9m LSR with Clontarf Half(PB by 7 mins) + 5.1m Recovery Run. Some lwr back pain. Holidays next wk so hopefully can still get my runs in.
    Mike D|HH Inter 1|10|25.3m|49.3m|Hard to run 9m at slow pace. Enjoying the Swim/cross training though. Good week all round.
    beeduybe|P&D:33-55|4|35m|72m|Completed 14 mile run pretty comfortably
    Lizzy c|P&D -33-55|8|36.24m|70.28m|Struggled a bit with the Marathon Pace Run [13 miles with 8 at MP] - but managed 6 miles at about 8 s slower than marathon pace so I'm ok with that...roll on week 3 :)
    Skidrow|HH inter1|||20m |
    Younganne|Ecolis plan|||33.23m|
    run44|HH inter1|||23.2m |
    D Chief|P&D -55|5|67.5km| 125.5km|Week 2 went ok. Did ok on yesterday's 21k with 13k PMP, but 42k at that pace?? Early days yet though.
    PDCAT|HH Inter 1||| 30M|
    Sideline warrior|HH Inter 1|10|26.05m|51.7m|2nd week done. Very slow LSR 9.6m today at 8.51 pace - warm out
    seanie_m|HH Inter 1|10|26.5mi|51.5mi|
    knightmove|P&D -55|||16m|
    doledude86|HH Inter 2|15|26m|79m|step back this week, one more week till my holidays
    irfrm|run world|1|5m|5m|week 1 runners world 3:15 program


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    #241
    RedRunner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Clearlier wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry about it too much at this stage. You've only just started your training plan and it aims to have you peak for the marathon.

    It sounds like the reason you slowed down was due to lack of miles in your legs rather than a lack of glycogen (which is what a gel would help with). Your plan starts out at 24mpw and peaks at near double that. You'll be able to manage the half marathon in the plan much better because you'll be better trained.

    Your half marathon and your training runs closer to the date will give you a much better read on whether you're ready to hit 4hrs or not.

    I was hoping someone might say that ! :)

    Thanks Clearlier for the positivity. I'll keep at it and hopefully stamina will improve.


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