Dog bit my son, need advice.

SingItOut

DamagedTrax wrote: »

we have 2 in the local flats that roam together and will go for any dog that walks near them. i swear they form a pincer movement little shytes!

That's their owners fault for not socialising them properly and for letting them roam free! .. Being totally honest I'd be more scared of an agressive jack russel than a larger dog haha

DamagedTrax

SingItOut wrote: »

That's their owners fault for not socialising them properly and for letting them roam free! ..

totally! their owner isnt exactly salt of the earth

Annabananna

I live in a rural area and have done all my life i view dogs as work animals as i live on a farm so please forgive me if i offend someone with this reply.

Fact: The dog bite your son

Who is responsible:
Under the Control of Dogs Act 1986, as amended by the Control of Dogs (Amendment) Act 1992, local authorities are responsible for the control of dogs.
You are liable for injury or damage caused by your dog to people or livestock. ( In this case the dog owners is responsible this I would interpt as having to cover all medical bills I know it covers lost of livestock from experience)

You can be disqualified from keeping a dog if you have been convicted of cruelty to a dog under the Protection of Animals Acts 1911 and 1965.
( Boxing the dog in the face would qualify under this law so they should not have dogs)

The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 (S.I. No. 442 of 1998) impose additional rules in relation to the following breeds (and strains/cross-breeds) of dog:

If the dog is Japanese akita then he covered under this law:
The rules state that:

• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must be kept on a short strong lead by a person over 16 years who is capable of controlling them
• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must be muzzled whenever they are in a public place
• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must wear a collar bearing the name and address of their owner at all times.

So they are breaking this law too.

My advice:

Ring them and advice them that you want them to contact the dog warden and have the dog taken away put it like this your dog has biten my son he has now tasted blood so he is more likely to attack again it could be your child or someone elses.

If they say no then you say they have left you no option but to do it yourself you then ring guards and dog warden it is up to you whether to also ask for medical expenses i personally would. In my own experience people love there animals more then other people livestock i know it different to a child and i have two kids under three. As a farmer you have the right to shoot the dog on sight so if this dog breaks out to a farm and kills sheep that will happen and they be sued for all livestock killed hurt and frightened.

Finally god forbid if your child was in hospital right now fighting for his life would you have gone to the guards of course you would so go now and stop another child getting hurt.

clappyhappy

Ok, well I called into neighbours after collecting kids from school. Brought bitten son in with me. When they saw me they were oh how is he, we were very worried, hope he is ok. I said that I was very surprised that they hadn't called in to check up on him. They said they were going to call tonight!!!? I showed them the broken skin on his lip and the three bruises on his cheek from the dogs teeth, said that he was taken to Dr's to be checked out. They said they were sorry and that dog had never done this before. I said that he needs training and proper discipline and that he should have been muzzled and tied up for the party. Was then told that they tied the other dog as he had "gone" for someone once. Said that my kids wouldn't be going over while dogs were there, but their daughter was welcome to come to my home, also said that they need to take responsibility for the dog and that some other parent may not be so understanding. I then left saying that I hope they will do something about their dogs and gave them the number for our local dog warden to contact for help in getting dog trained with the right people. And thats the story, oh and I also said I spoke with the guards for advice but didn't give any names, it might spur them on. Thanks for all your comments, appreciate it ;-))

ISDW

Annabananna wrote: »

I live in a rural area and have done all my life i view dogs as work animals as i live on a farm so please forgive me if i offend someone with this reply.

Fact: The dog bite your son

Who is responsible:
Under the Control of Dogs Act 1986, as amended by the Control of Dogs (Amendment) Act 1992, local authorities are responsible for the control of dogs.
You are liable for injury or damage caused by your dog to people or livestock. ( In this case the dog owners is responsible this I would interpt as having to cover all medical bills I know it covers lost of livestock from experience)

You can be disqualified from keeping a dog if you have been convicted of cruelty to a dog under the Protection of Animals Acts 1911 and 1965.
( Boxing the dog in the face would qualify under this law so they should not have dogs)

The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 (S.I. No. 442 of 1998) impose additional rules in relation to the following breeds (and strains/cross-breeds) of dog:

If the dog is Japanese akita then he covered under this law:

The rules state that:

• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must be kept on a short strong lead by a person over 16 years who is capable of controlling them
• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must be muzzled whenever they are in a public place
• These dogs (or strains and crosses of them) must wear a collar bearing the name and address of their owner at all times.

So they are breaking this law too.

My advice:

Ring them and advice them that you want them to contact the dog warden and have the dog taken away put it like this your dog has biten my son he has now tasted blood so he is more likely to attack again it could be your child or someone elses.

If they say no then you say they have left you no option but to do it yourself you then ring guards and dog warden it is up to you whether to also ask for medical expenses i personally would. In my own experience people love there animals more then other people livestock i know it different to a child and i have two kids under three. As a farmer you have the right to shoot the dog on sight so if this dog breaks out to a farm and kills sheep that will happen and they be sued for all livestock killed hurt and frightened.

Finally god forbid if your child was in hospital right now fighting for his life would you have gone to the guards of course you would so go now and stop another child getting hurt.

Sorry no, they're not covered under the RB law as you state it, as this happened on private property. The dogs under that legislation have to be muzzled etc when in public place. Not the case in this instance.

As a farmer no you do not have the right to shoot a dog on sight, you only have the right if the dog is worrying livestock.

Dogs don't get 'a taste for blood'. If that was the case, how can you explain the first attack a dog ever makes, why would it do that if it has never had a taste for blood?

Bubblefett

clappyhappy wrote: »

Ok, well I called into neighbours after collecting kids from school. Brought bitten son in with me. When they saw me they were oh how is he, we were very worried, hope he is ok. I said that I was very surprised that they hadn't called in to check up on him. They said they were going to call tonight!!!? I showed them the broken skin on his lip and the three bruises on his cheek from the dogs teeth, said that he was taken to Dr's to be checked out. They said they were sorry and that dog had never done this before. I said that he needs training and proper discipline and that he should have been muzzled and tied up for the party. Was then told that they tied the other dog as he had "gone" for someone once. Said that my kids wouldn't be going over while dogs were there, but their daughter was welcome to come to my home, also said that they need to take responsibility for the dog and that some other parent may not be so understanding. I then left saying that I hope they will do something about their dogs and gave them the number for our local dog warden to contact for help in getting dog trained with the right people. And thats the story, oh and I also said I spoke with the guards for advice but didn't give any names, it might spur them on. Thanks for all your comments, appreciate it ;-))

Sounds like they really appriciated your understadning which is great. Hopefully they'll follow up on the training. Well done Op, you handled the situation perfectly and you should be very proud. You were reasonable and fair and I'm glad things worked out like they did.

clappyhappy

bubblefett wrote: »

Sounds like they really appriciated your understadning which is great. Hopefully they'll follow up on the training. Well done Op, you handled the situation perfectly and you should be very proud. You were reasonable and fair and I'm glad things worked out like they did.

Thanks very much,shame it happened in the first place, hope they do something about it now. Lets hope it doesn't happen again.

WolfgangWeisen

Fair play for taking a reasonable and mature approach to it clappyhappy, some people (including many in this thread) could learn a thing or two from it.

Hopefully that's that then. Keep an extra sharp eye on them though.

Hannibal Smith

When I was a kid my grandparents had a dog, he was a beautiful Wicklow collie, well trained, gorgeous dog. One day one of the neighbours kids was bouncing a ball in front of him, not teasing it in a mean way, but standing in front of the dog bouncing the ball up and down. The dog went for the ball and bit the kid on the hand. That was the last I ever saw of the dog, I later found out he had been put down. It was the parents of the child who were behind him being put down btw, not my grandparents.

I'd be sooo reluctant to have a dog put down unless I was absolutely sure, beyond any doubt that the dog deliberately attacked the child.

My grandparents had family dogs that had been pulled at, stood on and crawled all over by kids and never as much as growled at any of them, so a family dog shouldn't bite. But you would think, at the very least, the owner of the dog would be offering to pay you for any medical expenses.

oh, just read further...you sorted it..good for you

Lisha

HI ClappyHappy, I just wanted to say that I'm glad you have resolved the issue with your neighbours so peacefully. I really hope that your son makes a full recovery soon and that he won't have any fear around dogs in the future.
Best wishes to you and your family

Personally I think I've learnt a lesson in dealing with issues calmly from reading your thread.

monkeysnapper

glad you got it sorted, like has been said before, you did a good job in sorting things out that kept everyone happy and communicated your intentions well. hope this is the end of it now and your son doesnt have any fear of dogs:)

clappyhappy

Hannibal Smith wrote: »

When I was a kid my grandparents had a dog, he was a beautiful Wicklow collie, well trained, gorgeous dog. One day one of the neighbours kids was bouncing a ball in front of him, not teasing it in a mean way, but standing in front of the dog bouncing the ball up and down. The dog went for the ball and bit the kid on the hand. That was the last I ever saw of the dog, I later found out he had been put down. It was the parents of the child who were behind him being put down btw, not my grandparents.

I'd be sooo reluctant to have a dog put down unless I was absolutely sure, beyond any doubt that the dog deliberately attacked the child.

My grandparents had family dogs that had been pulled at, stood on and crawled all over by kids and never as much as growled at any of them, so a family dog shouldn't bite. But you would think, at the very least, the owner of the dog would be offering to pay you for any medical expenses.

oh, just read further...you sorted it..good for you

Thanks for your comments I appreciate them. It was never a money issue but maybe it is a cultural difference, they see things in a different way. I didn't mind paying for Dr once he was ok. Honestly it could have been so much worse, if the teeth had gone through his cheek where it is now bruised, I just hate to think of the damage that could have been done. But lets put it behind us and hope we all learned a lesson. My little man is fine ;-)))