Digital Rights Forum... Online Privacy.... a chance to throw sticky buns.

DeVore

So, since you all got such a giggle from the last one... they've invited the performing chimp (me!) back to shout and point and rave this time about Digital Privacy.

Also speaking, probably more coherently and with fewer gun metaphors, will be the Irish Data Commissioner himself (!) and Paul C Dwyer from Security GRC & Cyber Threat Advisor.

http://www.sciencegallery.com/events/2012/05/digital-rights-forum-online-privacy


Tickets are free but need to be applied for.
Friday at 5.45 to about 7.45... then pub. Well, for me, you can do whatever you feel like...

DrumSteve

I take it sherlock is giving this one a miss?

DeVore

DrumSteve wrote: »

I take it sherlock is giving this one a miss?

So it would seem. Enda has Vincent Browne, Sherlock has me

DrumSteve

DeVore wrote: »

So it would seem. Enda has Vincent Browne, Sherlock has me

You did bear a slight resembelence to Vino alright.

The last one was a great debate (by great, I mean most is not all of his arguments were demolished).

I just get the feeling this will make no difference to him, but at least it's being discussed.

DeVore

This one is on digital privacy and I'm actually very keen to hear from the Commissioner about things like the ESB register being used to chase down the household charge (which is, imho, scandalous abuse of private data).

Nothingbetter2d

best of luck Devore.... i hope your getting fake nails for this one to scratch out their eyes

remember if they can't see it happen it didnt happen

Dravokivich

Speaker: Could you please provide your stance on Privacy?
Debatee: If I did it'd go agianst my ideals on Privacy.

smash

This one should be very interesting actually. I hate some of the practices that facebook and google implement.

DeVore

Me too... Its one of the things I'm most proud of in Boards is that we never sold the email address list or any personal data. Its f*ckin' creepy what FB do imho, but people buy into it... *shrug*

Sleepy

Another one you might be interested in chasing up would be the data of citizens utilizing Dublin City Council's waste collection services which were sold/given to Greyhound.

smash

DeVore wrote: »

Me too... Its one of the things I'm most proud of in Boards is that we never sold the email address list or any personal data. Its f*ckin' creepy what FB do imho, but people buy into it... *shrug*

The data they collect through cookies and IP lookups sends shivers down my spine, even though it's not that much of a big deal. But I know I get recommended friend options for people I work with even though I never stated where I work. And also while one of the lads was setting up a work fb page, it automatically recommended him a list of friends, some based on his own friends list even though he was logged out from his own account.

micropig

Don't waste the sticky buns..nom, nom:D

Best of luck with it and play a blinder like the last time

KyussBishop

I'd be curious about ISP data retention in Ireland: Under what conditions can ISP's share retained data with authorities, and on what occasions has this happened in the past?

This is a very old article, but noteworthy:
http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/11/data-protection-commissioners-annual-report-dris-response/

A more recent article:
http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/in-a-state-of-surveillance-1301589.html

There appears to be an extremely low barrier to access for some very private information there.


I read up a lot on this general topic in the case of the US mainly, as the extent of surveillance is absolutely crazy over there (and is a template for what will happen in the UK and here), but don't know a lot about the state of things in Ireland; should be an interesting talk!

An example of the state of things in the US:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Where are my sticky buns, I'm hungry


good luck with it dev you did well at the last one

smash

KyussBishop wrote: »

I'd be curious about ISP data retention in Ireland: Under what conditions can ISP's share retained data with authorities, and on what occasions has this happened in the past?

by law, anyone business who hosts an open wifi spot must collect and retain the mac addresses off all devices that connect, for a min 12 months. That's just for mobile phones, for laptops and tablets it's longer.

This info is collected so it can be readily obtained by authorities.

DeVore

I dont have so much of a problem about having to hold records in case someone uses your systems to break the law (Boards keeps records of IPs etc). I have a problem with laws are passed allowing free interception of communications and data gathering with very little oversight... or when data is passed on for uses it was never collected for (EG: the ESB connection data being used to collect household charge taxes... thats blatant breach of the DPA but the DPC was run-over by the government effectively).

SolarNexus

DeVore wrote: »

Tickets are free but need to be applied for.
Friday at 5.45 to about 7.45... then pub. Well, for me, you can do whatever you feel like...

Just to clarify: doors open at 6:15 to start letting people in and we'll start at 6:30 (ish), we have to stop by around 7:50 as The Science Gallery has to close doors at 8:00pm

Sean

Duggy747

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzTMRjufvqk

Best of luck DeVore

Morag

Places booked, looking forward to it.

Stiffler2

DeVore wrote: »

Me too... Its one of the things I'm most proud of in Boards is that we never sold the email address list or any personal data. Its f*ckin' creepy what FB do imho, but people buy into it... *shrug*

Sure who needs to sell your email list when hackers can just hack into boards like before and get the info..

meh

DeVore

Anyone who's on the internet long enough gets attacked and as time extends the probability of being hacked approachs 1.

Getting in isnt a problem, getting away with it is the trick... so keep watching because that incident isnt over yet.

Besides, I don't see what that has to be with digital privacy? Do you?

Run_to_da_hills

I brought ACTA to the attention of Boards over 2 1/2 years ago when it was unheard of, it was taken lightly as you can see from posts.

There is a far more worrying bill on the horizon which will no doubt end up on this side of the Atlantic. (Possibly through a cyber blamed false flag ie CIA "underwear bomber" style.)

CISPA is basically a spying tool for the authorities to enable private companies help weed out and report those that speak their mind "terrorists" in society at the press of a button.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZ8-xO2pMM

SolarNexus

An update for those following the event:

The live stream will be available here: http://digitalrightsforum.com/live.html

and we'll have a TweetWall tracking the discussion on Twitter here: http://drf2012.zoomero.com/

Tickets are still available here: http://www.sciencegallery.com/events/2012/05/digital-rights-forum-online-privacy

eth0

smash wrote: »

by law, anyone business who hosts an open wifi spot must collect and retain the mac addresses off all devices that connect, for a min 12 months. That's just for mobile phones, for laptops and tablets it's longer.

This info is collected so it can be readily obtained by authorities.

Where is this law?

KyussBishop

Good luck today Looking forward to checking this out when uploaded afterwards (probably won't be around to see the livestream).

DeVore

I've decided that this is a bit of a dry topic and intend to give you all a few giggles around it. Expect 5-10 minutes of goofy nerdy stand up as best I can.

(no angry shouty bits this time....)

SolarNexus

DeVore wrote: »

I've decided that this is a bit of a dry topic and intend to give you all a few giggles around it. Expect 5-10 minutes of goofy nerdy stand up as best I can.

(no angry shouty bits this time....)

But the angry shouty bits were entertaining too!