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Why do [some] fellas hate cats??
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Disdain isn't something cats understand. They're not smart enough. And they couldn't play fetch if they wanted to. It actually does make them dumb. They're not some kind of noble freedom force. They're just dickish, selfish and not that bright. It doesn't mean you shouldn't like them! It's silly the characteristics that cat lovers give to cats is all.
The bottom line is they dont want to play fetch, they dont dig that ****. If you show me a cat that wants to play fetch only to fail I'll entertain the idea that he's not smart enough. They have the intelligence to run after something and carry it back. But its no craic compared to going out and killing mice or birds and keeping things real. Which incidentally they do sometimes play fetch with by leaving as a thank you for their grateful owners
...ok its going a bit afterhoursie in here
EDIT: Just read Greentopias post, I stand corrected some cats do like to play the game, and it seems they succeed at it
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The bottom line is they dont want to play fetch, they dont dig that ****. If you show me a cat that wants to play fetch only to fail I'll entertain the idea that he's not smart enough. They have the intelligence to run after something and carry it back. But its no craic compared to going out and killing mice or birds and keeping things real. Which incidentally they do sometimes play fetch with by leaving as a thank you for their grateful owners ...ok its going a bit afterhoursie in here
EDIT: Just read Greentopias post, I stand corrected some cats do like to play the game, and it seems they succeed at it
The cats that are smart enough to play fetch have characteristics closer to a dogs though. It's great that they can be so too but then people are lauding the dimmer nature of cats in general that they're independent and have disdain. These people wouldn't like the Maine Coon Cat so much
Otherwise it's a case of just saying cats are great because they look cute. :pac:Greentopia wrote: »Maine Coons are also very gentle giants and very loyal, affectionate and friendly for a cat. No meanness in them at all.
So there's a cat breed that's smart, loyal and friendly for those who say cats can be so!0 -
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Dogs, I think, are more affectionate. However, they **** everywhere, and they do nothing useful.
Better protection for a house than an alarm, alert owners to danger, good hunters too, 3 rather useful things!
Cats are grand but dogs rule, end of!
Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.
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It's great that they can be so too but then people are lauding the dimmer nature of cats in general that they're independent and have disdain. These people wouldn't like the Maine Coon Cat so much
Well the MC is still a cat so it would be more independent natured than any dog, just not so much as a regular breed of cat generally speaking.
They're lovable and playful but not lap cats for example. Not that you'd want a 20lb MC on your lap for long anyway 0 -
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Dogs are generally loyal, friendly, warm, energetic, happy.
Cats are usually the complete opposite and that's why I don't like them.
Except the ones who are not (the opposite that is), and some cat breeds ARE friendly warm energetic and happy as I illustrated in my previous posts
And has been spoken about already-loyalty is over-rated.0 -
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orchidsrpretty wrote: »My boyfriend wouldn't be particularly fond of cats, he loves dogs though. But it seems our 3 cats can sense that he doesn't like them that much and spend ALL of their time following him around and getting under his feet and the minute he sits down they are on top of him looking for cuddles and pets.
They do it to everyone who doesn't like cats that comes into the house, they must smell it off them or something. Pure evil and spiteful, but as I am a girl, I totally relate and just wish I was as good at it as they are:)
Most people who dislike cats tend to close their eyes when a cat approaches them, "longer than a blink" but!:D that is how cats greet each other, so they are drawn to the person who dislikes them.
If you glare at them, it's a threat.
I don't need an alarm clock since I got my cat, she wakes me at 8 every morning with a gentle paw on my eyelid, and when I don't react the other eyelid gets the pressure.
She finally gets fed up and gives me a tiny scratch on my nose, I'm used to it now and a dab of concealer hides the scratch.
She's nowhere near as bad as "Simon's Cat" tho.
You need to turn up the sound.
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Cats are cute and can be very funny but they are essentially parasites. They don't give a sh*t about the owner and have no loyalty.
Big animal lover here btw....
Have to laugh at all the "no loyalty" comments here about cats.Humans are narcissistic eejits who expect and crave attention, even when we dont think we do. Dogs fuel that narcissism in bucketloads, cats dont. They're both fantastic species,each with amazing qualities. Dont expect instant love from a cat....you earn it and when you get it, its feckin brilliant, even if its for a brief 5 minutes. You shouldnt expect instant love from anything or anyone.
Dogs wear their heart on their sleeves, are easy to read,brilliant company and so much fun. Cats are hard to read (unless you take the time to know them) elegant,mysterious,independant and beautifully complex animals. I live with both a cat and a dog and the way the 2 interact is fantastic.I love both species equally tbh.
I spent 20 mins chattin with a lad (who is tough as nails) last weekend who rescued a one-eyed cat from the DSPCA that the wife got no say in, just because as soon as he opened the cage he popped out, sat on his shoulder and refused to budge. No messin....20 mins he waffled about him (few pints involved).
Fellas certainly dont "hate cats" I only wish this country took cat welfare even half as seriously as dog welfare (we're not even great at that tbh). As a nation of supposed animal lovers, we really, reeeeeally need to do more. 0 -
I did say usually the opposite, I'm sure there are cats out there that aren't as lazy, cold and unfriendly as others.Greentopia wrote: »Except the ones who are not (the opposite that is), and some cat breeds ARE friendly warm energetic and happy as I illustrated in my previous posts
And has been spoken about already-loyalty is over-rated.
Who says loyalty is overrated? Loyalty is one of, if not the best traits an animal (or human) can possess.
Just saying, most cats are generally not as fun, friendly, loyal, etc as most dogs. Hence the reason why this thread isn't talking about why guys hate dogs.and there are nasty, stupid, crappy dogs as well, its not like an entire species of animal share the same traits with each individual one.0 -
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Big animal lover here btw....
Have to laugh at all the "no loyalty" comments here about cats.Humans are narcissistic eejits who expect and crave attention, even when we dont think we do. Dogs fuel that narcissism in bucketloads, cats dont. They're both fantastic species,each with amazing qualities. Dont expect instant love from a cat....you earn it and when you get it, its feckin brilliant, even if its for a brief 5 minutes. You shouldnt expect instant love from anything or anyone.
Dogs wear their heart on their sleeves, are easy to read,brilliant company and so much fun. Cats are hard to read (unless you take the time to know them) elegant,mysterious,independant and beautifully complex animals. I live with both a cat and a dog and the way the 2 interact is fantastic.I love both species equally tbh.
I spent 20 mins chattin with a lad (who is tough as nails) last weekend who rescued a one-eyed cat from the DSPCA that the wife got no say in, just because as soon as he opened the cage he popped out, sat on his shoulder and refused to budge. No messin....20 mins he waffled about him (few pints involved).
Fellas certainly dont "hate cats" I only wish this country took cat welfare even half as seriously as dog welfare (we're not even great at that tbh). As a nation of supposed animal lovers, we really, reeeeeally need to do more.
Very well said. Post of the thread for me. Agree with it all.0 -
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We had a cat for nineteen years. Anyone who came into the house 'not a cat person' would leave the place madly in love with her.
She was ridiculous. She'd run up curtains and drop off dead crows at the doorstep. She chased every dog in the neighbourhood and would go missing for days on end, only to be found nestling under the immersion tank in the hot press, happy as a pig in sh1t.
When she was 11 my mother accidentally ran over her and she lost an eye. When she got back from the vet's, she hid behind the sofa, shaking, for about two months.
Then she assumed her place above the heated water tank in the laundry room. She loved her heat. She also loved her cuddles and she'd sit on my lap in the sitting room in front of the fire place for hours on end. She 'wasn't allowed' anywhere in the house except the kitchen but I swear to God that cat would seek me out, in my room, in the sitting room, where ever, if I was having a sh1tty time after a b@stard boyfriend broke my heart or a good friend let me down.
She was a bag of bones before she died, riddled with tumours and her kidneys started to fail, she stopped grooming herself but she got more and more affectionate and would jump on me when I came home from college for the weekend. Eventually she got too old and tired and gave up the ghost and I swear to God our hearts broke collectively as a family. Even my Dad got teary eyed and I've seen that man cry about twice in my life.
Cats are beautiful, giving creatures, they just don't suffer fools. They won't take bullsh1t and their love and respect is earned, unlike dogs who just give it unquestioning. I swear to God my cat had more of a heart than a lot of humans I know.
It still breaks my heart when I go home and there's an empty space above the water tank where her basket used to be. 0 -
Big animal lover here btw....
Have to laugh at all the "no loyalty" comments here about cats.Humans are narcissistic eejits who expect and crave attention, even when we dont think we do. Dogs fuel that narcissism in bucketloads, cats dont. They're both fantastic species,each with amazing qualities. Dont expect instant love from a cat....you earn it and when you get it, its feckin brilliant, even if its for a brief 5 minutes. You shouldnt expect instant love from anything or anyone.
Dogs wear their heart on their sleeves, are easy to read,brilliant company and so much fun. Cats are hard to read (unless you take the time to know them) elegant,mysterious,independant and beautifully complex animals. I live with both a cat and a dog and the way the 2 interact is fantastic.I love both species equally tbh.
I spent 20 mins chattin with a lad (who is tough as nails) last weekend who rescued a one-eyed cat from the DSPCA that the wife got no say in, just because as soon as he opened the cage he popped out, sat on his shoulder and refused to budge. No messin....20 mins he waffled about him (few pints involved).
Fellas certainly dont "hate cats" I only wish this country took cat welfare even half as seriously as dog welfare (we're not even great at that tbh). As a nation of supposed animal lovers, we really, reeeeeally need to do more.
Fellas certainly do hate cats. It's wankers you're thinking of, wankers dont hate cats. Cats are little more than big rats. Disease ridden fleabags that slink around the place miawing and spraying like the filthy contagions that they are. Send them all to Mrs. Waters. I can honestly say, without exaggeration, if my girlfriend got a cat I would dump her.0 -
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Predation of birds by cats is and has been a serious problem worldwide. They have had a serious impact on birds and other small animals populations. Nothing against cats personally. As you say it's what they do, but their collateral damage is most certainly an issue, that has at times led to local extinctions. No other pet has this environmental impact. It should be down to owners of course. Bells on the cats collar and the like, though I've read these may not be so effective.It's what they do, just collateral.
Nobody complains when they kill mice or rats.
Cats and dogs vary so much in personality. You really can't say dogs are this and cats are that. IMHO 9 times outa 10 it's the owners projection onto the animal that says dogs are X and cats are Y. Indeed for me that owners projection tells me more about them than the dog or cat involved. They tend to ascribe traits they have or wished they had.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I have a cat and to a certain extent I can understand their bad reputation. My cat is extremely loving and loyal and affectionate, however he is shy, suspicious and terrified of most people other than my partner and myself. He also has a particular dislike for men but that could be because he is envious (we got him spayed) or because he lives in a household with two women! I really like cats but I can understand how they seem cold but I don't believe that they behave in the same way with their owners, cats show as much affection as they are shown, which makes sense. Most of my friends don't realise that he is affectionate or that he likes to curl up in bed with us most nights or he sits on my lap most evenings and purrs and rubs his little face against mine. He can be left alone for a couple of days, he doesn't **** in the house or need to be taken for a walk and he never smells because he grooms himself more than I do! I like dogs a lot but I'm quite happy with my cat. 0
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