have you ever met anyone who dropped out of the corporate world?

unclejunior

because they found the going too tough?

Biggins

unclejunior wrote: »

because they found the going too tough?

I have worked with others at directorship level that have dropped out in Ireland due to the absolute mess that is red-tape and regulation meeting which seems to be more so, smothering start-up SME's and other ventures.

They ended up going abroad to take their ideas/business elsewhere to find less overall hassle.

Duggy747

Let's run this idea up the flagpole and see who salutes it. It's time for some clear blue sky thinking!

Stiffler2

Bertie Ahearn who works in Africa these days.

The nigerians were so impressed with his scamming skills that they enlisted him to teach them his ways.

Also Brian Cowen.

Actually any corrupt politician should cover this one.

Also Sean Fitzpatrick had to drop out of the corporate as well because his maths was $hite
Sean Quinn's maths was also sh!ite

Birneybau

unclejunior wrote: »

because they found the going too tough?

Bobby Baccala

Sky King

Duggy747 wrote: »

Let's run this idea up the flagpole and see who salutes it. It's time for some clear blue sky thinking!

I agree. It's better to be effective than be efficient, and with our just-in-time holistic paradigms we can copper fasten a sea-change in operational and organisational efficitiveness.

Judging performance by our key performance indicators, and thinking outside the box, we can offer a future proof, best in class solution.

Sergeant

Biggins wrote: »

I have worked with others at directorship level that have dropped out in Ireland due to the absolute mess that is red-tape and regulation meeting which seems to be more so, smothering start-up SME's and other ventures.

They ended up going abroad to take their ideas/business elsewhere to find less overall hassle.

Any examples of countries that have less red-tape in starting a business? Not talking about getting finance. Ireland is an incredibly easy country in which to do business, and I'd be curious as to where they moved to find less regulation and an even easier corporate and employee tax system.

ToddyDoody

Sky King wrote: »

I agree. It's better to be effective than be efficient.

These days, I'd say its a hierarchy moreso than a choice, whereby you need to be efficient to be effective.

Gummy Panda

Sky King wrote: »

Duggy747 wrote: »

Let's run this idea up the flagpole and see who salutes it. It's time for some clear blue sky thinking!

I agree. It's better to be effective than be efficient, and with our just-in-time holistic paradigms we can copper fasten a sea-change in operational and organisational efficitiveness.

Judging performance by our key performance indicators, and thinking outside the box, we can offer a future proof, best in class solution.

Are you my boss?

Biggins

Sergeant wrote: »

Any examples of countries that have less red-tape in starting a business? Not talking about getting finance. Ireland is an incredibly easy country in which to do business, and I'd be curious as to where they moved to find less regulation and an even easier corporate and employee tax system.

Singapore, South Korea, Denmark to name a few (and they rank officially above Ireland).
Besides the actually ease at which they make start-ups easier, their attitude is completely greater in welcome and sustainability over longer periods of time in helpful assistance.

Immaculate Pasta

I know a few yes. A lot don't find it "too tough going" it's more that people are tired of the corporate bull**** you have to put up with as you progress up the ladder or being away from their family. The trick is once you know the business is to leave and start one of your own. You're your own boss then, can potentially make much more money and you work your own hours.

c_man

Sky King wrote: »

I agree. It's better to be effective than be efficient, and with our just-in-time holistic paradigms we can copper fasten a sea-change in operational and organisational efficitiveness.

Judging performance by our key performance indicators, and thinking outside the box, we can offer a future proof, best in class solution.

Can you give me a guesstimate of how much inter-op will be required for this endeavour? Doesn't need to be specific, just tshirt-size it.

Crooked Jack

c_man wrote: »

Can you give me a guesstimate of how much inter-op will be required for this endeavour? Doesn't need to be specific, just tshirt-size it.

HA! love it.

JerryHandbag

Sky King wrote: »

I agree. It's better to be effective than be efficient, and with our just-in-time holistic paradigms we can copper fasten a sea-change in operational and organisational efficitiveness.

Judging performance by our key performance indicators, and thinking outside the box, we can offer a future proof, best in class solution.

I'm gonna need Google Translate for this

Biggins

Sky King wrote: »

...Judging performance by our key performance indicators, and thinking outside the box, we can offer a future proof, best in class solution.

The problem is to maintain sustainability with performance indicators over time.
Add to that some sort of workable structure that works, containing validation points which helps corrects any down points which might effect upward progression.
Nothing is future proof but the above is certainly factorisation of a good progressive start.

Enkidu

c_man wrote: »

Can you give me a guesstimate of how much inter-op will be required for this endeavour? Doesn't need to be specific, just tshirt-size it.

Very little, we can use the synergy from exceeding customer expectations to leverage our branding. We can touch base with the guys down in the trenches on Friday to avoid getting caught on deck with this two pronged approach, but to ensure deliverables I suggest we think outside the box so that we don't boil the ocean while moving in meeting space.

I'll be out of pocket till next Tuesday, so give me an E.T.A. for your reply.

Sky King

OK. But please bear in min d that cutting edge co-opetition is the optimum solution going forward for this organisation 2.0.

Empowerment, communication and a team-oriented change management approach is really what's needed. Regarding a mission statement, I would say that the value added lean and agile paradigm is best to take the low hanging fruit.

Enkidu

As you know we are communicating across the board, creating active communication solutions has been a real game changer and a paradigm shift in internal socialising, we are literally sweating the assets here.

You need to have the (Company Name) DNA. In order to optomise the overall efficiency and effectiveness of our (Company Name) family member we must achieve total and complete interactive communicatability, going forward.

Dempsey

Is there a BKM or POA for all this?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Sometimes I feel like venturing out to the deserted Blasket Islands and becoming a fisherman.

Teyla Emmagan

This thread very 2001.

Crooked Jack

Logical Fallacy

unclejunior wrote: »

because they found the going too tough?

I dropped out of the corporate world because it was boring and I had made plenty of money by then.

It was much nicer working for myself than someone else.

thebigbiffo

yeah i've known some who have. knew a guy who gave up a very good job in the newspaper business in london to be a london black cabbie (which pays surprisingly well, and is much better regulated...see taxi thread).

sometimes i feel like packing it in myself. it's not the work - it's that you have to be an evil sociopath to make it to the top. and although i'm evil, i'm no sociopath.

helimachoptor

A guy i knew was a stockbroker, he was making a fortune anyway for 10+ years, he went into work one day and decided he had enough and got a job in a call centre

az2wp0sye65487

Saw this guy, Bola Lafe on UK's Dragon's Den recently.

He gave up his job to concentrate on his passion - which was to develop child care accessories.

None of the dragons invested in his company - which at the time only seemed to be pitching the baby nose-picking tweezers, and he informed them that he'd also invested £200K himself. They were shocked - and none convinced that he would ever see any of it again!

From the website:

"Until May 2011, Bola was a Managing Director at one of the world’s leading Global Banks, focusing on Cost & Expense Management. Bola’s career in the banking sector spanned 21 years, and he is also a qualified Chartered Surveyor."

Blondini

Just touching base with this thread, before I kick it into touch ... going forward.

Pushtrak

Duggy747 wrote: »

Let's run this idea up the flagpole and see who salutes it. It's time for some clear blue sky thinking!

12 Angry Men, or elsewhere?

Princess Peach

Plenty of my MBA profs. I go to college in a smallish city, few of them told us that they made their money in the big cities and came back here to settle down and raise a a family, prefer a quieter life.

Teaching is a much easier life and still good money. Most of them still do some consulting or research for firms though.

Capt'n Midnight

Enkidu wrote: »

a paradigm shift

I hate this one.


My dad retired , does that count ?

Born to Die

I have.

Not because it was too tough but because I could not put up with the bullsh!t anymore.

Plus I had got to the point that I had fulfilled my obligations to others.