ALARM

altor · 22-05-2012 10:16pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

are you saying its set up the way i want then.

Should be, any questions?

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 10:24pm

thats brill. i had tought that i would have to go into my codes and tick each zone i wanted activated under that code. its strange as we didnt have to use the 0 down arrow 4 5 7 8 directly but we still programmed them

altor · 22-05-2012 10:35pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

thats brill. i had tought that i would have to go into my codes and tick each zone i wanted activated under that code. its strange as we didnt have to use the 0 down arrow 4 5 7 8 directly but we still programmed them

They are quick sets, we did set up the 0 downarrow 8 in zone attributes for to have the two PIRs in the house off.
User attributes are hopefully set up but it is not a big job to add them if you need them.
When you test the system will will find out if anything is missing

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 10:38pm

when i test the system tomorrow , do you want me to put in codes as if i was leaving house and going to bed or will i just check zones

altor · 22-05-2012 10:42pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

when i test the system tomorrow , do you want me to put in codes as if i was leaving house and going to bed or will i just check zones

Yes, check everything.
All windows, doors and PIRs.
Full sets.
Part guard.
Panic on the keypad.
Inhibits.

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 10:47pm

what do you mean when you say check inhibits

altor · 22-05-2012 10:50pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

what do you mean when you say check inhibits

Leave the back door open and check that you can inhibit the zone when setting the system. It is explained on page 14 of the user manual. You never know when you will need it.

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 10:56pm

i just have couple questions, during walk test if there is more than 1 windiw in zone and i hit it and bell goes off for secons and stops, can i then hit next window to check it. is system still set.

2, to put in the main codes to activate alarm, i have to exit the set up . do i do this by clicking good bye

altor · 22-05-2012 11:01pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i just have couple questions, during walk test if there is more than 1 windiw in zone and i hit it and bell goes off for secons and stops, can i then hit next window to check it. is system still set.

That is correct, once the zone number has being selected on the keypad then you can test each sensor on that zone once the bell stops ringing indicating that the sensor is connected to the zone and is working.

johnnyb6 wrote: »

2, to put in the main codes to activate alarm, i have to exit the set up . do i do this by clicking good bye

That is correct, exit engineer mode and test each of the functions that have being programmed.

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 11:04pm

one last one for today, in future if i need to go into maintenance or engineers mode , how do i do it with out powering down system

midlands1 · 22-05-2012 11:10pm

KoolKid wrote: »

The default engineer code is 01278.
If that doesn't work then it has been changed by the installer.
There is an option to default it:
Turn off the mains power & open the main control panel & disconnect the battery. Remove the factory link marked LK1 & power the system up again. If the display shows the language select screen it has been defaulted. Select arrow up 1 for english.
Disarm with the default user code 01122
The default engineer code 01278 will now work.
Beware : You will need to reprogramme the system from scratch.
If this does not work then the panel is engineer locked. You will need an engineer callout to reset the system for you.

Do you not think this kind of information should be kept out of the public domain. Maybe use P M instead

altor · 22-05-2012 11:11pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

one last one for today, in future if i need to go into maintenance or engineers mode , how do i do it with out powering down system

In the users menu, scroll to engineer code and set up a code for engineer access to the panel. Different code to your user code.
When you need to get back into engineering just enter this code on the keypad.
Make sure you have replaced the factory link you removed when defaulting the system or on the next complete power down all the information you have programmed will be lost.

altor · 22-05-2012 11:13pm

midlands1 wrote: »

Do you not think this kind of information should be kept out of the public domain. Maybe use P M instead

No, it is all in the engineer manuals that are freely available to anyone buying a control panel. Nothing secretive about it.

KoolKid · 22-05-2012 11:14pm

There is no proplem with whats posted. Altor is only repeating what is freely available in the manuals or from a phone call to GE tech support.
Information on defaulting unlocked panels is freely available.
Thats why I would never leave a panel without an engineer lock.

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 11:20pm

i set up users and engineers codes last night. are these the codes i will need . and can i replace the factory link tomorrow before walk test

altor · 22-05-2012 11:25pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i set up users and engineers codes last night. are these the codes i will need . and can i replace the factory link tomorrow before walk test

That is correct.
I would connect it tonight if you can. A full power loss to the control panel will bring the panel back to factory settings and it will need to be reprogrammed again.

johnnyb6 · 22-05-2012 11:28pm

not a problem. i will touch base tomorrow after the test. thanks for all your super help alton

altor · 22-05-2012 11:31pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

not a problem. i will touch base tomorrow after the test. thanks for all your super help alton

Your welcome, always happy to help

midlands1 · 23-05-2012 7:13am

altor wrote: »

Your welcome, always happy to help

whats being discussed here is the kind of stuff that doesn't need to be out in the open

KoolKid · 23-05-2012 8:00am

There is no problem with posting information that's already in the public domain.
let's leave it at that and keep the thread on topic.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 7:14pm

hi altor, back again. i checked beams and they fine, i programmed all the friction sensors to 5 and they all ok.is 5 less sensitive than 4.
when alarm activated i had no code to turn it off, so after alot of time and bad language i put in users code and this worked. should i have a code to turn off alarm

KoolKid · 23-05-2012 7:39pm

The user codes are the codes for turning it off.

altor · 23-05-2012 7:39pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

hi altor, back again. i checked beams and they fine, i programmed all the friction sensors to 5 and they all ok.is 5 less sensitive than 4.
when alarm activated i had no code to turn it off, so after alot of time and bad language i put in users code and this worked. should i have a code to turn off alarm

That is good that everything is working. 5 is middle of the sensitivity range. 1 is the most sensitive and 9 the lease sensitive. 0 would be off.

The user code is what is used to arm and disarm your alarm system.
You would of changed this in the user menu.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:08pm

i had 7 digit number originally beginning with 0. now the bad news, the only code that is correct is odownarrow4. this allows me leave with full alarm.

o downarrow 5 is still same. when i put it on . there was no leave time ane it went off when i opened door and no buzzer. the beams were on too and i wanted them off so i can leave and let dog to walk around. the other too codes wrong too

altor · 23-05-2012 8:21pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i had 7 digit number originally beginning with 0. now the bad news, the only code that is correct is odownarrow4. this allows me leave with full alarm.

o downarrow 5 is still same. when i put it on . there was no leave time ane it went off when i opened door and no buzzer. the beams were on too and i wanted them off so i can leave and let dog to walk around. the other too codes wrong too

0 downarrow 4 going out front door with everything on. With entry/exit timer
0 downarrow 5 is a quick arm with out a code. With no entry/exit timer (all zones on).
0 downarrow 7 switch alarm on from bed room with PIRs on. With entry/exit timer (all zones on).
0 downarrow 8 switch alarm on from bed room with PIRs off. With entry/exit timer.

Did 0 downarrow 8 work?

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:27pm

o downarrow 8 in bedroom when on , had buzzer on and leave now up on display. beams still on.however it down stairs i need this but with beam off

altor · 23-05-2012 8:32pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

o downarrow 8 in bedroom when on , had buzzer on and leave now up on display. beams still on.however it down stairs i need this but with beam off

Go into the zone menu and then into the zone attributes and select the part guard for the 2 zones. P2 is what you want to add in there.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:39pm

when i do this and i pressok to p2, p21n comes up with flashing ok. i have clicked this as correct

altor · 23-05-2012 8:41pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

when i do this and i pressok to p2, p21n comes up with flashing ok. i have clicked this as correct

That is correct, the (in) is the inhibit.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:45pm

i guessing that the two beams off in this code now. but is o down arrow 8 for the keypad upstairs or can i use it down stairs

altor · 23-05-2012 8:47pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i guessing that the two beams off in this code now. but is o down arrow 8 for the keypad upstairs or can i use it down stairs

It will work on either keypad.
Did you test it to see if the PIRs are off?

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:54pm

sorry altor, i cant test it now as we have baby just asleep. will tomorrow be ok. is there any way the internal niise can be turned down or is this stupid question

altor · 23-05-2012 8:56pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

sorry altor, i cant test it now as we have baby just asleep. will tomorrow be ok. is there any way the internal niise can be turned down or is this stupid question

All depends on the internal bell you have installed. If it is a sound bomb then there is no way around it.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 8:58pm

how do i know

altor · 23-05-2012 9:02pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

how do i know

This is a sound bomb.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 9:04pm

are you saying there is nothing i can do about it so

altor · 23-05-2012 9:09pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

are you saying there is nothing i can do about it so

Best off leaving it till tomorrow rather than disconnecting components.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 9:12pm

are you saying it big job.
can i recap, all going well with test tomorrow evening, i should have
o downarrow 4 leave with full alarm
0 downarrow 8 leave with no beams

altor · 23-05-2012 9:16pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

are you saying it big job.
can i recap, all going well with test tomorrow evening, i should have
o downarrow 4 leave with full alarm
0 downarrow 8 leave with no beams

You could disconnect the internal bell. Up to you. It is the first two terminals after the wiring for the keypad in the control panel. 23 and 24. Just make sure if you do that you take note of the cables going into each terminal as the external strobe is connected in there also.

Both should work.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 9:24pm

i will leave bell till tomorrow but i was hoping it could have been turned down and not disconnected all together.

the quick code i had o downarrow 5 , which was alarm on, no beams and no leave time can i still have that

altor · 23-05-2012 9:31pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i will leave bell till tomorrow but i was hoping it could have been turned down and not disconnected all together.

the quick code i had o downarrow 5 , which was alarm on, no beams and no leave time can i still have that

That code is a quick arm with everything on.
As you need the entry/exit in part guard there is no way around this that I know of.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 9:35pm

i used this if i in house and wasnt going out. i cant do this anymore so. its not a problem if this cant be

altor · 23-05-2012 9:41pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

i used this if i in house and wasnt going out. i cant do this anymore so. its not a problem if this cant be

It is a quick set of the whole system, only in part guard can a zone be set up this way.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 9:44pm

can i sort out a code where i can turn alarm on from bed room with out beams and leave time and buzzer. o downarrow 8 used to do this

altor · 23-05-2012 9:48pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

can i sort out a code where i can turn alarm on from bed room with out beams and leave time and buzzer. o downarrow 8 used to do this

It will give you the entry/exit timer as part guard has being set up this way.
If you open the keypad in the bedroom there is a little pot that controls the volume in the keypad. This can be turned down to suit.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 10:10pm

so because i have part guard set up in 0 down arrow8, are you saying this dictates what i can do in other codes

altor · 23-05-2012 10:12pm

Just had a look at the manual there and you can turn off the buzzer for entry and or exit for part guard.

Miscellaneous menu, arm/disarm menu. scroll to buzz bell options.
PrtEx Buz ON/OFF
PrtEn Buz ON/OFF

altor · 23-05-2012 10:14pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

so because i have part guard set up in 0 down arrow8, are you saying this dictates what i can do in other codes

No, there are two part guards to allow you set them up differently.
0 down arrow 8 is P2, we hopefully have this set up so that you can set it with the 2 PIRs off.
We will find out if it is set up correctly when you test it.

johnnyb6 · 23-05-2012 10:15pm

but if i do this will it turn off buzzer in all the codes

altor · 23-05-2012 10:20pm

johnnyb6 wrote: »

but if i do this will it turn off buzzer in all the codes

It will turn off the buzzer when you set the system for part guard.
Full set will still give you the entry/exit buzzer.
To be honest I would use the pot in the keypad to turn the volume down and if it is annoying then turn off the buzzer in the panel settings.

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