NI man mistake Italian flag for Irish

Crooked Jack

http://www.u.tv/News/School-‘IRA-youth-HQ-in-flags-mix-up/a415e119-9230-4265-b9d5-a16348618fac

This prick has been a scourge on the south Armagh area for years. He's constantly showing himself up like this but it's rare that his idiocy gets beyond the local media.

My name is URL

Fcuking knob!

clappyhappy

Think he needs to go back to school, muppet.

fryup

well in fairness it does like the irish flag from a distance

My name is URL

fryup wrote: »

well in fairness it does like the irish flag from a distance

Even if it was an Irish flag, calling the primary school "an IRA training ground" for flying it is typical of that ignorant twat.

Crooked Jack

fryup wrote: »

well in fairness it does like the irish flag from a distance

Setting aside the fact that there is nothing wrong with an Irish school flying the Irish flag, it's clear that somebody just sent him that photo and he based his entire tirade on that alone.
His deductive powers are amazing, simply by looking at a poorly lit picture of a flag outside the school (flanked by a Polish and Turkish flag no less) he could deduce that it was an IRA training ground where they were teaching the kids how to use guns.
He's like a sectarian (and insane) Sherlock Holmes

LordSutch

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

John Doe1

Is that the love ulster guy?

"I wounder do they also train the children in how to use weapons, for it seems they can do what they wont. [sic]"

Such eloquence:D

J Cheever Loophole

Crooked Jack wrote: »

He's like a sectarian (and insane) Sherlock Holmes

Funny you should say that - wasn't there an incident in the last couple of years where he claimed to be walking down a road in South Armagh and discovered a 300lb bomb in the hedge? The circumstances around that were totally bizarre!! Or am I imagining that? (The story I mean, not that it was bizarre)



Willie definitely has issues.

dibkins

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

mussolini used it as a traning ground back during the war.

Immaculate Pasta

KeithAFC?

Crooked Jack

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Funny you should say that - wasn't there an incident in the last couple of years where he claimed to be walking down a road in South Armagh and discovered a 300lb bomb in the hedge? The circumstances around that were totally bizarre!! Or am I imagining that? (The story I mean, not that it was bizarre)



Willie definitely has issues.

Yup. He also claims to know the names of the people behind Kingsmill, the Paul Quinn murder and a dozen other things and keeps threatening to release them.
Strangely he seems to know very little about the two fellas stabbed to death after being in his club.

Ghandee

Colour blindness is a scourge in bigotry. :rolleyes:

Crooked Jack

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

I think you're slightly missing the point.

Ghandee

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

KeithAFC?

Speaking of him, where's he disappeared to lately

Has he been banned?

LordSutch

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I think you're slightly missing the point.

I do understand who Willie Fraser is, and needless to say he wouldn't be the biggest fan of the Irish Tricolour, but is it not the case that he simply made a massive 'faux pas' by mistaking the Italian Tricolour (in the centre on the tallest pole), for an Irish Tricolour (subtle difference)?

Please explain about missing the point.

My name is URL

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

To agitate idiots.. clueless uneducated idiots.

And out of curiosity, what makes you say that it's a 'Nationalist school'?

leggo

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

Probably because they couldn't rent out three different flagpoles of the same size at short notice, or some other minor, inconsequential reason like that.

You should probably leave the conspiracy theories for elsewhere, I think they've enough to be getting on with up there with lunatics like this still obviously trying to cause trouble between their existing peaceful communities.

Ruralyoke

Well, probably not a popular thing to say but a bigoted, and let's be honest, pretty crazy individual he may be, but don't forget he lost his father and no less than four other family members to the IRA over a relatively short period.

It's not exactly surprising that he is somewhat unhinged and an over zealous critic of all things republican.

He's a nutter, but I almost feel sorry for him.

Logical Fallacy

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

While I could understand thinking the Italian flag in isolation was the Irish Flag, when you have two other flags that also contain red on either side of it for comparison it's a fairly ****ing stupid mistake to make.

El Weirdo

LordSutch wrote: »

I do understand who Willie Fraser is, and needless to say he wouldn't be the biggest fan of the Irish Tricolour, but is it not the case that he simply made a massive 'faux pas' by mistaking the Italian Tricolour (in the centre on the tallest pole), for an Irish Tricolour (subtle difference)?

Please explain about missing the point.

Probably because he went on to say that the school was:

...the junior headquarters of SF/IRA youth, or it may as well be.

and

I wounder do they also train the children in how to use weapons, for it seems they can do what they wont.

LordSutch

I have seen many a dodgy looking reddish-orange on cheap Irish flags over the years, and I guess that in many instances they have been mistaken for Italian flags, (and vice versa)! Italian Chip shops in particular are always getting their Tricolours mixed up )

Willie Fraser has made a fool of himself, he should have contacted the school first to ask about the flags.

Crooked Jack

LordSutch wrote: »

I do understand who Willie Fraser is, and needless to say he wouldn't be the biggest fan of the Irish Tricolour, but is it not the case that he simply made a massive 'faux pas' by mistaking the Italian Tricolour (in the centre on the tallest pole), for an Irish Tricolour (subtle difference)?

Please explain about missing the point.

The main thrust of the story is that because he thought a school was flying a tricolour he felt he had the right to accuse it of being an IRA training ground.
The flag mix up is a humorous but minor aspect of the main issue

Crooked Jack

LordSutch wrote: »

I have seen many a dodgy looking reddish-orange on cheap Irish flags over the years, and I guess that in many instances they have been mistaken for Italian flags, (and vice versa)! Italian Chip shops in particular are always getting their Tricolours mixed up )

Willie Fraser has made a fool of himself, he should have contacted the school first to ask about the flags.

He should have kept his mouth shut and let the school fly whatever flag they wanted.

Immaculate Pasta

Ghandee wrote: »

Speaking of him, where's he disappeared to lately

Has he been banned?

I think he was finally banned from After Hours late April but not the whole site and he hasn't been on since. Although there's somebody now on the Politics forum though called 'whitelines' who opened an account in May who I suspect is KeithAFC due to constantly trolling nationalists and using phrases like "the Irish Republic" which was a favourite phrase of his.

Crooked Jack

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I think he was finally banned from After Hours late April but not the whole site and he hasn't been on since. Although there's somebody now on the Politics forum though called 'whitelines' who opened an account in May who I suspect is KeithAFC due to constantly trolling nationalists and using phrases like "the Irish Republic" which was a favourite phrase of his.

Glad he's not gone altogether. He was always good for a laugh. Kept things interesting

tayto lover

I think Specsavers should make an advert out of Willie's story. It would be a great laugh abroad as well as here.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I love this bit:

"The 51-year-old founder of Families Acting for Innocent Relatives also claimed the school was "the junior headquarters of SF/IRA youth, or it may as well be".

A bit claiming it's a Nazi moonbase... or it might well be.

dodderangler

Is he for real what a clown typical nordy

Crooked Jack

dodderangler wrote: »

Is he for real what a clown typical nordy

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Auvers

LordSutch wrote: »

why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

Roman Catholic propaganda :rolleyes:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dodderangler wrote: »

Is he for real what a clown typical nordy

That's just as incoherent and ignorant as the some of the **** in the report.

Cee-Jay-Cee

LordSutch wrote: »

It seems like an easy mistake to make, three flags on a Nationalist school one flag in the centre much taller than the other two, which at 1st glance is an Irish Tricolour! on closer inspection the Orange is Red, but why is the Italian flag more prominent & higher than the Polish and Turkish national flags?

Maybe because flagpoles are generally arranged/erected like that with the centre flag usually reserved for the home country with visiting/related flags on the smaller poles but considering none of the flags being flown were from the home country they had to pick one to put on it and so put the italian one on it. Does it even make any difference???

LordSutch

Not to me, but it obviously did to Willie Fraser.

Auvers wrote: »

Roman Catholic propaganda :rolleyes:

Say What?

pickarooney

CJC999 wrote: »

Maybe because flagpoles are generally arranged/erected like that with the centre flag usually reserved for the home country with visiting/related flags on the smaller poles but considering none of the flags being flown were from the home country they had to pick one to put on it and so put the italian one on it. Does it even make any difference???

Why not raise the flag to the same height as the others though?

pickarooney

pickarooney wrote: »

Why not raise the flag to the same height as the others though?

Because it's an Italian IRA training camp, duh.

funk-you

pickarooney wrote: »

Why not raise the flag to the same height as the others though?

Because it would be flying at half mast.

Why are people surprised that someone got our flag mixed up? Half of people in this country can't get it right. I'm always hearing this green, white and gold crap.

-Funk

Chamone MF

Link text says the three flags were Polish, Italian and Turkish.
But the picture in the article shows a Russian flag not a Polish flag.

just sayin

markie29

Deleted User wrote: »

Because it's an Italian IRA training camp, duh.

they make bombs out of pizzas!

Bad Panda

Anyone named 'Willie Frazer' is bound to be a dumbass. Just say the name and you'll think of the slow guy in school...

markie29

Chamone MF wrote: »

Link text says the three flags were Polish, Italian and Turkish.
But the picture in the article shows a Russian flag not a Polish flag.

just sayin

russian flag has white.blue and red....the flag in the picture only has white and red......willie is that you???!!

LordSutch

Bad Panda wrote: »

Anyone named 'Willie Frazer' is bound to be a dumbass. Just say the name and you'll think of the slow guy in school...

Would that be the Willie or the Frazer or both :rolleyes:

Curious, why is there soo much hatred towards him here? and why has he so much hatred in him towards the IRA? Rhetorically of course.

Ruralyoke

LordSutch wrote: »

Curious, why is there soo much hatred towards him here? and why has he so much hatred in him towards the IRA? Rhetorically of course.

See my post earlier in thread (#19)

Explains a lot.

LordSutch

Thanks for that, and I agree with all you say in #19, but it still doesn't explain the pure hatred aimed at him in this thread!

Ruralyoke

Well he's very anti-nationalist, 90 odd% of boards would be nationalist (with either a small or capital N)

Morlar

Bad Panda wrote: »

Anyone named 'Willie Frazer' is bound to be a dumbass. Just say the name and you'll think of the slow guy in school...

This should be post of the day. I can just picture him down the back of the class sniffing tippex all day & drawing little 'UVF R COOL' doodles all day in class..

Dangerous Man

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, no one cares.

Crooked Jack

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, no one cares.

You're right. boards.IE should be exclusively for discussing issues of global relevance.
My apologies for forcing you to take part in this thread

Dudess

LordSutch wrote: »

Thanks for that, and I agree with all you say in #19, but it still doesn't explain the pure hatred aimed at him in this thread!

He's a horrible, thick, mentalist sectarian bigot. Why are you ignoring the hateful stuff he's said and done? I know you've unionist leanings, I've nationalist ones yet I wouldn't ignore what that vile scumbag Martin Ferris has done.

Dudess

funk-you wrote: »

Because it would be flying at half mast.

Why are people surprised that someone got our flag mixed up? Half of people in this country can't get it right. I'm always hearing this green, white and gold crap.

-Funk

I don't think anyone's bothered about the flag confusion, rather the fact he said an Irish flag flying outside a school in South Armagh can only mean an IRA training ground. What a pig of a man.

LordSutch

Dudess wrote: »

He's a horrible, thick, mentalist sectarian bigot. Why are you ignoring the hateful stuff he's said and done? I know you've unionist leanings. I've nationalist ones yet I wouldn't ignore what that vile scumbag Martin Ferris has done.

I think 'Ruralyoke' explains it well in post#19.

Can't stand Ferris and everything he stands for.