Everything Euro 2012!

Beefy78

killwill wrote: »

English fans!!!

Being English, I won't take that personally

I am rather concerned about the potential for hooliganism though. We're staying in Warsaw so a long way from the England fans but you've got to think that Poland vs Russia could kick off. And whilst I wouldn't dream of tarring all Eastern Europeans (or Central Europeans in the case of Poles) with the same brush, the guy I'm travelling with is Black and frankly I'm going to be keeping my wits about me. Really just want to enjoy the beer and the football.

Ormus

Beefy78 wrote: »

A week of hot weather and consuming little else but beer.

What can possibly go wrong?

Its gonna be one serious session. Hopefully a celebratory session rather than a sorrow drowning session.

kitakyushu

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

The English fans are like Angels compared to the Ukranian Hooligans .

Just like with their major sports, hooliganism was a gift England gave to the world, but now they're being thought how it's done by foreigners.

killwill

Beefy78 wrote: »

Being English, I won't take that personally

Ah just a joke, I typed that with an English mate beside me.
I spent half my life watching english football and english tv. If I was really against all things english that would not happen!

Anyways, is there not a boards.co.uk for your type???

greendom

killwill wrote: »

Ah just a joke, I typed that with an English mate beside me.
I spent half my life watching english football and english tv. If I was really against all things english that would not happen!

Anyways, is there not a boards.co.uk for your type???

Too many hooligans

darkman2

All I can say is thank fúck we did not end up in Ukraine for the group stage.

kitakyushu

darkman2 wrote: »

All I can say is thank fúck we did not end up in Ukraine for the group stage.

Yeah but we'll still have to go there for the final tho.

Redzer7

Gareth Barry out of the Euro's, Phil Jagielka called into sqaud.

Fizman

Did Parker get through the Norway game ok? His fitness will be paramount for them now. I've never been a fan of Barry, but he had a very solid final few months for City. Englands midfield looks very very thin now if Jagielka is considered backup for Gerrard, Parker, Lampard etc.

Beefy78

Yeah Parker looked fine on Saturday. The treatment he's had seems to have worked perfectly.

Jags isn't considered back up for the midfielders. He's now back up for the defenders and Phil Jones will be contesting a midfield place.

Lauder

Interesting omen that the Irish football squad used the exact same plane registration G-RAJJ to fly to Italy for pre Euro2012 training, as HM the Queen arrived in Ireland on!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/5731318914/ with the Queen.


And with the Irish team! http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2012/0527/media-3299408.html#


Strange co-incidence...

bwatson

kitakyushu wrote: »

Just like with their major sports, hooliganism was a gift England gave to the world, but now they're being thought how it's done by foreigners.

Really? I think you will struggle to find many English football fans who are aware of even the most basic dynamics of football violence abroad. I don't think many would suggest that England is being taught anything by these people. Their existence is, apart from on Bravo TV, mainly unnoticed.

Moreover, if other nations and societies have problems with violence at football, that is their issue alone, born out of their social circumstances. To suggest that these nations should think of hooliganism as a gift from England (and what you are really trying to say, is blame England in part for its existence) is wide of the mark.

batistuta9

Lauder wrote: »

Interesting omen that the Irish football squad used the exact same plane registration G-RAJJ to fly to Italy for pre Euro2012 training, as HM the Queen arrived in Ireland on!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/5731318914/ with the Queen.


And with the Irish team! http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2012/0527/media-3299408.html#


Strange co-incidence...

what has this got to do with anything?

donfers

Two of our players selected in the underappreciated XI - hip hip hurrah

http://footballanalysis.org/

Daemos

Another international tournament, another quest to find the best wallchart for the occasion. Have to say, the one that comes with the RTE Guide this week is quite nice. Any other decent ones doing the rounds?

Davidth88

Having watched some of the beeb Panorama about the racist stuff in the Ukraine . I than saw this in the Daily Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9298777/Euro-2012-Mario-Balotelli-says-he-will-walk-off-the-pitch-if-he-is-racially-abused-in-Poland-and-Ukraine.html

I think Balotelli is a bit of a nutter , but on this issue I totally support him


Interestingly I worked in the Ukraine quite a bit in 2004 , and that included Kharkiv , I didn#t encounter any problems , ( although I am white ) I thought the place to be pretty nice , bit underdeveloped and very corrupt but quite nice. The people were like Russians but with a smile .

greendom

France 2 - 0 up against Serbia after half an hour (Ribery and Malouda). More importantly M'Vila has left the field injured and could be out of the Euros. Massive blow for France if true.

Reganio 2

Davidth88 wrote: »

Having watched some of the beeb Panorama about the racist stuff in the Ukraine . I than saw this in the Daily Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9298777/Euro-2012-Mario-Balotelli-says-he-will-walk-off-the-pitch-if-he-is-racially-abused-in-Poland-and-Ukraine.html

I think Balotelli is a bit of a nutter , but on this issue I totally support him

The problem is the Italian fans are just as likely to do it to him as the Polish/Ukranians.

steelcityblues

greendom wrote: »

France 2 - 0 up against Serbia after half an hour (Ribery and Malouda). More importantly M'Vila has left the field injured and could be out of the Euros. Massive blow for France if true.

A real shame. I saw a bit about him on the magazine show on RTE, about a month ago. Came across as a classy guy, unlike the image of a lot of his international team mates in recent years.

transylman

Davidth88 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9298777/Euro-2012-Mario-Balotelli-says-he-will-walk-off-the-pitch-if-he-is-racially-abused-in-Poland-and-Ukraine.html

Good idea trying to give an ultimatum to a crowd, large crowds of course being known for their rationality and reasoning skills.

leggit

Daemos wrote: »

Another international tournament, another quest to find the best wallchart for the occasion. Have to say, the one that comes with the RTE Guide this week is quite nice. Any other decent ones doing the rounds?

Got a lovely one form my local ITICA chipper about a month ago! Had a lovely picture of Trap eating a bag of chips on it and all, been up on the fridge ever since, pity I won't be around to fill it in

10 days!

batistuta9

National Squad No. of players playing in home leagues
England 23
Russia 21
Ukraine 21
Italy 20
Spain 19
Germany 19
Greece 16
France 12
Portugal 10
Czech Republic 8
Denmark 7
Netherlands 7
Poland 6
Croatia 4
Sweden 3
Republic of Ireland 0

no big surprised that ireland have none

briany

batistuta9 wrote: »

National Squad No. of players playing in home leagues
England 23
Russia 21
Ukraine 21
Italy 20
Spain 19
Germany 19
Greece 16
France 12
Portugal 10
Czech Republic 8
Denmark 7
Netherlands 7
Poland 6
Croatia 4
Sweden 3
Republic of Ireland 0
no big surprised that ireland have none

No surprise is right but then if Trap is picking Paul Green, a LoI call up feels like it's worryingly near....

kitakyushu

batistuta9 wrote: »

National Squad No. of players playing in home leagues
England 23
Russia 21
Ukraine 21
Italy 20
Spain 19
Germany 19
Greece 16
France 12
Portugal 10
Czech Republic 8
Denmark 7
Netherlands 7
Poland 6
Croatia 4
Sweden 3
Republic of Ireland 0

no big surprised that ireland have none

No surprises alright. Of the countries that qualified 10 are the top 10 domestic leagues in Europe. Five more in the 10's and 20s and the Rep.Ireland league is way down at 33.

One small bit of glory the League of Ireland can claim is that the squad has 5 former LOI players in it (it would have been six with Fahy). That is miles ahead of any previous squad that qualified for a finals.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Davidth88 wrote: »

Having watched some of the beeb Panorama about the racist stuff in the Ukraine . I than saw this in the Daily Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9298777/Euro-2012-Mario-Balotelli-says-he-will-walk-off-the-pitch-if-he-is-racially-abused-in-Poland-and-Ukraine.html

I think Balotelli is a bit of a nutter , but on this issue I totally support him


Interestingly I worked in the Ukraine quite a bit in 2004 , and that included Kharkiv , I didn#t encounter any problems , ( although I am white ) I thought the place to be pretty nice , bit underdeveloped and very corrupt but quite nice. The people were like Russians but with a smile .

Fyffes are giving thousands of inflatable bananas

Italy game should be interesting

batistuta9

kitakyushu wrote: »

No surprises alright. Of the countries that qualified 10 are the top 10 domestic leagues in Europe. Five more in the 10's and 20s and the Rep.Ireland league is way down at 33.

One small bit of glory the League of Ireland can claim is that the squad has 5 former LOI players in it (it would have been six with Fahy). That is miles ahead of any previous squad that qualified for a finals.

yeah the lowest bar ireland in the coefficients is sweden in 24th, with about twice as many points.

on the LOI thing i remember moyes talking about coleman in an interview and he basically said he had no tactical training/awareness at all & they had to put a lot of work into it with him. Sounded like they'd just puck a guy of the street who was a decent footballer but that never played for a club before.

would it be better for the NT if they were all over at a very young age?

SEPT 23 1989

Italy have offered not to compete over the corruption

batistuta9

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Italy have offered not to compete over the corruption

it'll never happen though

Rekop dog

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Italy have offered not to compete over the corruption

Source?

kitakyushu

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Italy have offered not to compete over the corruption

I'll believe it when I don't see it.

darkman2

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Italy have offered not to compete over the corruption

lol! If they were serious they would say they are not competing.

batistuta9

Rekop dog wrote: »

Source?

all over the place

greendom

Shame Ireland weren't the 25th team - they would have been in at Italy's expense :rolleyes::D

Reganio 2

batistuta9 wrote: »

it'll never happen though

It can't happen, it leads to who takes their place, say Estonia do (2nd in Italy's group, lost play offs to Ireland) then the group is unbalanced as Italy would have been seeded in Pot 1, Estonia wouldn't. It would be a logistical nightmare.

Felexicon

greendom wrote: »

Shame Ireland weren't the 25th team - they would have been in at Italy's expense :rolleyes::D

17th even? :rolleyes:

batistuta9

Reganio 2 wrote: »

It can't happen, it leads to who takes their place, say Estonia do (2nd in Italy's group, lost play offs to Ireland) then the group is unbalanced as Italy would have been seeded in Pot 1, Estonia wouldn't. It would be a logistical nightmare.

i wouldn't go as far as to say can't happen, if they don't go they don't go but it's just a comment blown out of proportion.

greendom

Felexicon wrote: »

17th even? :rolleyes:

Ahead of my time, as usual

Nailz

Rekop dog wrote: »

Source?

Here and here, among many others. Actually coming out and saying it without any sort a trigger from UEFA to do so is probably one of two thngs;

1) An invitation for UEFA to do so
2) An act of compliance with UEFA, showing they recognise the re-emergence of the scandal and hope to act in the face of what has happened as opposed to shying away from it and pretending it hasn't happened, which might buy them some sympathy...

Personally, I can't see UEFA doing such a thing it's too much hassle for them, they would have to cancel and BYE all of their Group C matches, as well as refunding the tickets for such matches, among probably lots of other bits of red tape. I certainly hope it doesn't happen, we have a ticket to that game!

kitakyushu

Reganio 2 wrote: »

It can't happen, it leads to who takes their place, say Estonia do (2nd in Italy's group, lost play offs to Ireland) then the group is unbalanced as Italy would have been seeded in Pot 1, Estonia wouldn't. It would be a logistical nightmare.

Denmark got into Euro 92 AFTER the finals draw had been made and were simply positioned in Yugoslavia's slot regardless of seedings etc.

batistuta9

kitakyushu wrote: »

Denmark got into Euro 92 AFTER the finals draw had been made and were simply positioned in Yugoslavia's slot regardless of seedings etc.

why was it denmark that got in?

kitakyushu

batistuta9 wrote: »

why was it denmark that got in?

Because they came second in Yugoslavia's qualification group. It could just as easily have been Ireland for example had we been in that group instead.

steelcityblues

batistuta9 wrote: »

why was it denmark that got in?

War in Yugoslavia.

SEPT 23 1989

batistuta9 wrote: »

why was it denmark that got in?

Yugoslavia broke up

batistuta9

steelcityblues wrote: »

War in Yugoslavia.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Yugoslavia broke up

i know what happened yugoslavia :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

i wanted to know why denmark were chosen to go instead, was that not obvious

thanks anyway

Sin City

nice.one, hopefully estonia.get through
now we just neef to dump spain and sorted

kitakyushu

Sin City wrote: »

nice.one, hopefully estonia.get through
now we just neef to dump spain and sorted

To save time they could just award us a 4-0 win because we beat them already and then give us a rest day on matchday3.

Sin City

kitakyushu wrote: »

Sin City wrote: »

nice.one, hopefully estonia.get through
now we just neef to dump spain and sorted

To save time they could just award us a 4-0 win because we beat them already and then give us a rest day on matchday3.

yeah but then they would have to give.out refunds. no we will have to beat them, again I'm afraid

Felexicon

batistuta9 wrote: »

i know what happened yugoslavia :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

i wanted to know why denmark were chosen to go instead, was that not obvious

thanks anyway

They were second in Yugoslavias group

darkman2

Animated history of the Republic of Ireland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHkQOzrC5U

briany

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Fyffes are giving thousands of inflatable bananas

Italy game should be interesting

I'm not so much worried about Balotelli's reaction but what I am worried about is the banana thing being taken out of context by the European press. Also, if Ireland have nothing but pride to play for in the last game, there could be a few clowns in the Irish support who could just say 'f*ck it' and practically chuck the things at him in order to get a rise. It could only be one idiot but it might only take one to leave a bad taste at the end of Ireland's European adventure.