saha/pienaar

Hatch99

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/899625-louis-saha-and-steven-pienaar-disgrace-spurs-with-chelsea-support?

tippspur

They should never be left near WHL again.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Fcuking eijits. Fair enough them thinking that, but to express it on a public social networking site, what were they thinking?

SantryRed

They did nothing wrong whatsoever. Shows class that they'd congratulate them. Twitter is full of idiots.

Pacing Mule

I'd agree with SantryRed tbh.

BERBA

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

I'd agree with SantryRed tbh.

completely disagree, we pay their fcuking wages. Clowns the two of them. They wont be with us next season anyhow , a small consolation.

Hatch99

BERBA wrote: »

completely disagree, we pay their fcuking wages. Clowns the two of them. They wont be with us next season anyhow , a small consolation.

Exactly.
Typical Tottenham nice guy attitude.Reverse the roles, would it happen then, balls it would...

tippspur

SantryRed wrote: »

They did nothing wrong whatsoever. Shows class that they'd congratulate them. Twitter is full of idiots.

Class my hole,do they even realise how much Spurs fans are suffering today.:mad:

Pacing Mule

Hatch99 wrote: »

Exactly.
Typical Tottenham nice guy attitude.Reverse the roles, would it happen then, balls it would...

Would you prefer if they tweeted that they hate Chelsea and they didn't deserve to win ?

All they have done is congratulate a victorious opponent. Did Ian Holloway disgrace Blackpool yesterday when he congratulated Sam Allardyce ? It happens in all sports where there is a winner and a loser. Sitting there moping about doesn't do anyone any favours.

Here's a quote from the article quoting Saha ...

‘No CL for Tottenham but FairPlay to Chelsea. Great victory great final for them.

The Frenchman added: ‘If we had lost with Spurs the final of CL against Chelsea and Drogba had played like yesterday i would have congrats them the same way.

‘U can hate me if u want. U can hate everyone if u want. U wont make me hate football and the view of winners. #fairplay even if gutted.’

He's expressed the fact he was gutted but was happy to congratulate the winning team. There's **** all wrong with that, it's not being a weak mister nice guy etc. All it was was simply acknowledging Chelsea's achievement.

I'm as gutted as anyone here - check my posts from last night - I was like a demon, I'm very very pissed off that we aren't in the CL, It sucks and it's beyond unfair IMO but that doesn't mean I can't say fair play to Chelsea for taking their chance.

Hatch99

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Would you prefer if they tweeted that they hate Chelsea and they didn't deserve to win ?

All they have done is congratulate a victorious opponent. Did Ian Holloway disgrace Blackpool yesterday when he congratulated Sam Allardyce ? It happens in all sports where there is a winner and a loser. Sitting there moping about doesn't do anyone any favours.

Here's a quote from the article quoting Saha ...



He's expressed the fact he was gutted but was happy to congratulate the winning team. There's **** all wrong with that, it's not being a weak mister nice guy etc. All it was was simply acknowledging Chelsea's achievement.

I'm as gutted as anyone here - check my posts from last night - I was like a demon, I'm very very pissed off that we aren't in the CL, It sucks and it's beyond unfair IMO but that doesn't mean I can't say fair play to Chelsea for taking their chance.

Why didn't they keep there thoughts to themselves instead of sharing them with millions knowing it would upset some. I suppose one of them is hopefully leaving anyway and the other one is angling for a move too so they deemed it ok. Fcuk the pair of them. Call me bitter if you like. As I said, reverse the roles, would terry, lampard, cole and the likes be congratulating us, i think not...

Also, your comparison to Blackpool/West Ham is mind boggling.

Pacing Mule

Hatch99 wrote: »

Why didn't they keep there thoughts to themselves instead of sharing them with millions knowing it would upset some. I suppose one of them is hopefully leaving anyway and the other one is angling for a move too so they deemed it ok. Fcuk the pair of them. Call me bitter if you like. As I said, reverse the roles, would terry, lampard, cole and the likes be congratulating us, i think not...

Also, your comparison to Blackpool/West Ham is mind boggling.

Wouldn't expect any kind of class whatsoever from those players. Definitely wouldn't expect any congratulations from them. I'd like to think our players are nothing like them.

2nd Row Donkey

I agree with Pageant Messiah tbh. These things on twitter are easily taken out of context.

Worryingly it shows just how little the modern footballer cares about anything more then their pay packet. It would be nice if one of our players came out and was genuinely annoyed and worked up about missing out on CL next season but they are too busy getting a tan on a yacht in the med by now or getting ready to put themselves in the shop window at the euro's.

Hatch99

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Wouldn't expect any kind of class whatsoever from those players. Definitely wouldn't expect any congratulations from them. I'd like to think our players are nothing like them.

Either would I, but is what these 2 done 'showing class' ? Anyway...

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

There's a big difference between congratulating a winning team when you've just lost to them (i.e. Holloway) and doing what Saha and Pienaar did. Gumps, the pair of them.

KingdomYid

They should have stayed quiet in fairness. A little bit of sensitivity towards the people who pay their wages should come before any congrats to fellow pros.

Kiith

They congratulated a team for winning the Champions League. What the hell is wrong with that? Doesn't mean they aren't disappointed. Some Spurs fans have really gone off the ball after this season. As disappointed as i am, i still congratulated the few Chelsea fans i have...does that make me ****in eejit that's never allowed near WHL again? Doesn't matter if they are paid by the club, it's common courtesy to congratulate the winning team.

Be disappointed, but at least try and show a little class about it.

BERBA

Kiith wrote: »

They congratulated a team for winning the Champions League. What the hell is wrong with that? Doesn't mean they aren't disappointed. Some Spurs fans have really gone off the ball after this season. As disappointed as i am, i still congratulated the few Chelsea fans i have...does that make me ****in eejit that's never allowed near WHL again? Doesn't matter if they are paid by the club, it's common courtesy to congratulate the winning team.

Be disappointed, but at least try and show a little class about it.

Are you for real?:eek: , difference between you congratulating chelski fans and them is that we don't pay your wages , we pay those 2 clowns wages!!!

show a little class you say.......unbelievable !!

golfball37

If we had shown half the application Chelsea showed on Saturday night for the month of March we would have had nothing to worry about.

Nothing to see here except 2 professionals send best wishes to fellow pros for reaching the pinnacle of the club game.

Anything less than a congratulations from all at Spurs is a little petulant imo. As I've said its nothing to do with Chelsea that we finished where we did.

Kiith

BERBA wrote: »

Are you for real?:eek: , difference between you congratulating chelski fans and them is that we don't pay your wages , we pay those 2 clowns wages!!!

show a little class you say.......unbelievable !!

So because Spurs pay their wages they shouldn't congratulate a team for what is a pretty amazing achievement? Regardless of how Chelsea won it, they won it...and they deserve the congratulations. We've no one to blame but ourselves for not getting a CL spot, and refusing to say "Well done" (regardless of how gutted they are), just seems petty.

BERBA

golfball37 wrote: »

If we had shown half the application Chelsea showed on Saturday night for the month of March we would have had nothing to worry about.

Nothing to see here except 2 professionals send best wishes to fellow pros for reaching the pinnacle of the club game.

Anything less than a congratulations from all at Spurs is a little petulant imo. As I've said its nothing to do with Chelsea that we finished where we did.

if it was roles reversed , i can guarantee you Terry and his chronies wouldn't be congratulating any of our players. What they did was wrong , all wrong.

BERBA

Kiith wrote: »

So because Spurs pay their wages they shouldn't congratulate a team for what is a pretty amazing achievement? QUOTE]

They did this on a social network site. Why not do it in private?

golfball37

BERBA wrote: »

if it was roles reversed , i can guarantee you Terry and his chronies wouldn't be congratulating any of our players. What they did was wrong , all wrong.

I think we should breed players who aspire to be more in terms of a person than John Terry and the likes, berba.

Saha is a thoroughly decent individual and Pienaar was shipped off in January. Neither have done anything wrong here imo.

Kiith

BERBA wrote: »

They did this on a social network site. Why not do it in private?

Because they all use that social network site and it's not a private matter. They said congratulations to Chelsea for a massive achievement. It's not like Chelsea beat us in the final...and even if they had you'd still hope we'd be gracious in defeat and congratulate them.

The Bayern players shook the hands of all the Chelsea players after the match...Stephen Ferris congratulated Leinster for winning the Heineken Cup final yesterday...it happens all the time, and long may it continue.

Being gracious in defeat isn't something that should be frowned upon.

Antisocialiser

At a time when all spurs fans were hurting they could have employed a little more tact.

Simply saying nothing publicly would have sufficed.

Pacing Mule

BERBA wrote: »

if it was roles reversed , i can guarantee you Terry and his chronies wouldn't be congratulating any of our players. What they did was wrong , all wrong.

I presume you think Terry and co wouldn't have congratulated us if the roles were reversed because you think so little of them and their behaviour in recent years. Why then is doing the opposite of their thuggish behaviour something to be criticised for ? Do you want our players to act like them ?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Grow up?? There's a bit of difference between all those examples above and what happened with Cheslea getting CL instead of Spurs. None of those clubs will miss out massively on losing what they lost, however the consequences for Spurs as a club, without trying to exaggerate, could be dire. Modric for one will probably leave, Bale could, those our 2 of our most potent attracking options. Not only that but our transfer targets will be lowered, for the obvious reason of not having CL and for also not having the funds the CL generate. Also there's the small matter of our current manager, he needs to be replaced. He lost the players with all his talk of England, and made some baffling decisions throughout the season that had an obvious negative impact on the team. How many managers will want to take over Spurs now?
So as you can see there's a bug difference in the examples you gave and consequences for Spurs of Chelsea winning the CL. To repeat, they're a pair of gumps, they could at least have said nothing and showed some sensitivity towards their employers and their employers' fans.

BERBA

Seaneh wrote: »

Grow the **** up and get over it, it's only bloody football.

Get the fcuk outta here and go back to supporting that O-35 team you support.

Seaneh

THFC wrote: »

Grow up?? There's a bit of difference between all those examples above and what happened with Cheslea getting CL instead of Spurs. None of those clubs will miss out massively on losing what they lost, however the consequences for Spurs as a club, without trying to exaggerate, could be dire. Modric for one will probably leave, Bale could, those our 2 of our most potent attracking options. Not only that but our transfer targets will be lowered, for the obvious reason of not having CL and for also not having the funds the CL generate. Also there's the small matter of our current manager, he needs to be replaced. He lost the players with all his talk of England, and made some baffling decisions throughout the season that had an obvious negative impact on the team. How many managers will want to take over Spurs now?
So as you can see there's a bug difference in the examples you gave and consequences for Spurs of Chelsea winning the CL. To repeat, they're a pair of gumps, they could at least have said nothing and showed some sensitivity towards their employers and their employers' fans.

How about Relegated players congratulating the teams who avoided the drop?

Or Blackpool congratulating Reading, Southhampton and Westham?

In both the scenes above, the loss is infinately bigger than Spurs missing CL football. And both happened with out "gumps" of supporters acting like tits.


Also hilarious my post was deleted.

Seaneh

BERBA wrote: »

Get the fcuk outta here and go back to supporting that O-35 team you support.

Milan currently have 1 player over 35 and 2 34 year olds in the squad...
After that the next oldest players are Mexes, Bonera, Ibrahimovic and Amelia at 30...


Over 35's indeed...


Where as you lot have a 38 year old, a 41 year old, 2 34 year olds, a 33 year oldand 3 31 year olds...

Hatch99

Seaneh wrote: »

How about Relegated players congratulating the teams who avoided the drop?

Or Blackpool congratulating Reading, Southhampton and Westham?

In both the scenes above, the loss is infinately bigger than Spurs missing CL football. And both happened with out "gumps" of supporters acting like tits.


Also hilarious my post was deleted.

Read your post again and try to understand why it might have been deleted.

Wendell Gee

I don't understand football fans. Everyone is on saying that the likes of Terry would never post what the two lads did. True, but he's hardly the role model off the pitch I'd be looking for. We aren't in the CL because we finished fourth when third was for the taking. I'm as gutted as anyone, but look at Twitter and see Munster players congratulating Leinster and think, who's a better role model, JT or the likes of Paul O Connell. At least Terry had the honesty to admit the goal in the semi never was.
I love my football, and have been a Spurs supporter since 1972, when I was 6. I've little idea why, but I think it was Pat Jennings tbh. However, I also love GAA and rugby, and I have to say the attitude among soccer supporters stinks. Blaming or begrudgung Chelsea is loser mentality. We're out because we left ourselves exposed to the risk of being supplanted by CL winners. It could have been worse. Imagine if Chelsea finished third and Arsenal won the CL on Saturday night. That would have been a real disaster.
Chelsea were lucky, and limited to the point of being negative, but they were heroic ever since the Napoli home game. I just hope that Spurs have the same mentality someday. Gallas turning his arse to a forty yard shot at Villa proved to be the final nail in our CL coffin, along with HR leaving Defoe in the dugout when a goal left things in our own hands.
If Dawson had been there he would have took it in the face. His injury took some of the heart and balls out of the team. We need players willing to kill or die for the lilywhite shirt. It's not what our players say, it's what they do.
Come on lads. Let's man up and accept what has happened. Pienaar and Saha showed class/naivety/whatever. It doesn't matter as long as they, or any other Spurs player gives it on the pitch every day they go out. The last time Spurs fans got so outraged was when Ghaly threw his shirt down. He was stupid, but I remember him playing on with his front teeth stuck in the pitch at Portsmouth. They were retrieved at half time. Compare that to Modric's behaviour at the start of the season. I know which I consider most disrespectful, but I was still delighted when he stayed and played his little legs off until Harry ran him into the ground.
Sorry. Rant over. I just wish football fans had a little less hatred in their hearts. Abramovic would probably have bought Tottenham if Jesper Gronjaer hadn't fired Chelsea into the CL in the last game of 2003-4. We might feel differently about Russian oligarchs and bought trophies then.
Congratulations Chelsea, and Arsenal, and I hope we beat the crap out of them next year, with 11 players who want it more than their opponents.
rant properly over.