Geriatrics who can cure thrush and warts

MisterEpicurus

Have you ever come across these irritating stories whereby people actually believe that old men and women can cure the thrush, warts, bleeding and so forth. Then, there's the famous 'Seventh son of the seventh son' rubbish as well;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_son_of_a_seventh_son#Ireland

How can people believe such BS???????????????????????? These wizards always seem to cure conditions that would otherwise go away itself or with a few common medicines. When these geriatrics start curing cancer, autoimmune diseases or death, then I'll listen.

ARRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad:

chin_grin

Because some people become completely retarded when desperate.

KeithM89_old

There are several alleged cases of an Irish healer in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Dwight Schrute?

My name is URL

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Have you ever come across these irritating stories whereby people actually believe that old men and women can cure the thrush, warts, bleeding and so forth. Then, there's the famous 'Seventh son of the seventh son' rubbish as well;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_son_of_a_seventh_son#Ireland

How can people believe such BS???????????????????????? These wizards always seem to cure conditions that would otherwise go away itself or with a few common medicines. When these geriatrics start curing cancer, autoimmune diseases or death, then I'll listen.

ARRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad:

You should find out where they live and go round to harass them and the people trying to have their warts cured.. science demands it.

Nodin

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Have you ever come across these irritating stories whereby people actually believe that old men and women can cure the thrush, warts, bleeding and so forth. Then, there's the famous 'Seventh son of the seventh son' rubbish as well;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_son_of_a_seventh_son#Ireland

How can people believe such BS???????????????????????? These wizards always seem to cure conditions that would otherwise go away itself or with a few common medicines. When these geriatrics start curing cancer, autoimmune diseases or death, then I'll listen.

ARRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad:

My uncle is the seventh son of a seventh son. While I fully believe he may have the power to cause a few maladies, including those mentioned, I can't imagine a universe where he would be a source of healing.

blindside88

While I don't believe it I don't see any harm in others believing it and certainly wouldn't be upset or agitated by others believing it. Why does it bother you?

chin_grin

blindside88 wrote: »

While I don't believe it I don't see any harm in others believing it and certainly wouldn't be upset or agitated by others believing it. Why does it bother you?

Because it's like religion, giving old people something to put all their hope and belief in that doesn't exist.

blindside88

I was goin to ask were you an athiest but I thought it wouldn't be relevant, you clearly are. Again I can't see how someone else's beliefs can cause such aggrivation in your life. Something must be missing...... Perhaps god

Seriously though why does it gaul you so much

chin_grin

blindside88 wrote: »

I was goin to ask were you an athiest but I thought it wouldn't be relevant, you clearly are. Again I can't see how someone else's beliefs can cause such aggrivation in your life. Something must be missing...... Perhaps god

Seriously though why does it gaul you so much

Good guess, but wrong. (Also, thanks for the offer :pac:).

I'm just liking someone who wants to believe in a BS cure to someone who wants to believe that they'll get in to heaven. So I wanted to come at it from that angle. I really didn't want to derail the thread! (Apologies). It's like those psychics (one woman in particular) that feed on the gullibility of the desperate and emotionally distraught. I find it vile.

galwayrush

Is it just the geriatric ones that annoy you?

GLaDOS

They have it all wrong. It's the 8th son of an 8th son that is a wizard.

The 8th son of an 8th son of an 8th son is then a sorcerer.

MisterEpicurus

blindside88 wrote: »

While I don't believe it I don't see any harm in others believing it and certainly wouldn't be upset or agitated by others believing it. Why does it bother you?

It only becomes annoying once you tell these ignorant people the alternative and more likely explanations - [the ACTUAL explanations] - and they ignore it because the old woman/man happened to be nice and friendly and because the condition just happened to go away coincidentally.

And some of this isn't as innocent as this. There have been many many cases where parents ignored conventional therapy to see lunatics instead where the child died. So while I'm pointing out the slightly innocent examples, it can and has become sinister.

I think that's 2 good reasons for getting agitated by this crap.

suicide_circus

chin_grin wrote: »

Because it's like religion, giving old people something to put all their hope and belief in that doesn't exist.

And what is the harm in that? If it gives old people comfort and peace in their old age why would you be against it?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

KeithM89 wrote: »

Dwight Schrute?

Mad Dog from the A team?

chin_grin

galwayrush wrote: »

Is it just the geriatric ones that annoy you?

In a much slower way.

MisterEpicurus

suicide_circus wrote: »

And what is the harm in that? If it gives old people comfort and peace in their old age why would you be against it?

I'd be shocked if there was actually an atheist who believed this medical crap, I'd place my bets that all these idiots are actually religious believers as well. Doesn't set a good intellectual precedent does it...

Shryke

I wouldn't trust Rincewind to cure a wart.

Stupid notions. There is a harm in believing this stuff when it comes to anything medical and it's harmful when people try to fob ignorance onto others. Silly stupid notions. They do annoy me.

flutterflye

My mom went to one of those guys when she had cancer.
She also went to knock.
She still died.
I don't believe in anything religious or mystical, but if I was dying of some disease, I don't know - I just might try anything.

MisterEpicurus

flutterflye wrote: »

I don't believe in anything religious or mystical, but if I was dying of some disease, I don't know - I just might try anything.

You've summed up quite tersely how religion has persisted for so long.

SafeSurfer

I am very sceptical of all these mystical/magical powers. However as a kid a guy my dad knew rubbed a 50 pence piece on a wart I had for years and couldn't get rid of. He said he would buy it from me and gave me the 50p. Within a week it had withered and died and fell off completely.

I know of another guy who claims to have the cure of burns, but the "cure" involves the burn being licked by this guy.

So who knows, I for one may not believe but belief in itself can be a powerful force.

Capt'n Midnight

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So who knows, I for one may not believe but belief in itself can be a powerful force.

In most tests two placebos work better than one, and a salt water injection is even better.

And that's when the people in the test know that it's all placebos.

TLC and empathy work well

ejmaztec

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

In most tests two placebos work better than one, and a salt water injection is even better.

And that's when the people in the test know that it's all placebos.

TLC and empathy work well

I had a wart on my finger when I was a kid and an aunt gave me 50p for it. It was gone in a couple of days and it was no placebo because I'm pretty sure she was a witch.

GLaDOS

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

In most tests two placebos work better than one, and a salt water injection is even better.

And that's when the people in the test know that it's all placebos.

TLC and empathy work well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcxbQYK6Gg

the_syco

blindside88 wrote: »

Seriously though why does it gaul you so much

The healer doesn't cure their disease, but the person thinks they have, and thus don't goto their doctor, or stops taking their medication, etc, and dies.

Gloomtastic!

50p! Showing my age here but my Mum sold my wart for a penny.

AnonoBoy

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

50p! Showing my age here but my Mum sold my wart for a penny.

That's not showing your age, that's just showing your Mam up for being a cheapskate!

LH Pathe

Heard about this you get in a 'healing pool' with em, basically about 15ft diameter 3ft deep and they usher in some therepuetic dolphins and apparently.. could be wrong ere n I'll have to check my facts but apparently a combination if unique enzymes in their piss work together to deal with it.

Doc

I’m sure people have been cured in this way but anyone who is cured by this can put it down to the placebo effect. A placebo can often provide better results than medication and the medical profession is still unsure as to how they work, most think that the importance of perception and the brain's role in physical health are the reasons treatments like this might actually work. The effect is unreliable and unpredictable and cannot form the sole basis of any treatment but can help. If a person believes strongly enough that they will be cured as a result of something often they will.

up for anything

My sister had a patch of psoriasis on her elbow for over 25 years. It ranged from inflamed to nasty to seriously inflamed. A woman she worked worked with at one stage asked her to give her a photo of herself and she'd take it to a faith healing circle she was in. My sister handed it over and promptly forgot about it thinking what a load of bull. About a month later the woman asked her how her elbow was, she replied crap as usual, rolling up her sleeve only to realise that there wasn't a trace of it left. That was 20 years ago and she has been so completely free of it that it took nearly two years for the consultant to diagnosis the particular type of arthritis she has because the psoriasis evidence wasn't there. True story.

Nothingbetter2d

british geriatrics have to be the most annoying.... they all seem to drivel on and on about "the war". it was nearly 70 years ago... for christ sake we are bored of hearing about it.

rgmmg

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

british geriatrics have to be the most annoying.... they all seem to drivel on and on about "the war". it was nearly 70 years ago... for christ sake we are bored of hearing about it.

What war?

Nothingbetter2d

rgmmg wrote: »

What war?

wwii


your dementia ruining your memory?

wilson10

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

british geriatrics have to be the most annoying.... they all seem to drivel on and on about "the war". it was nearly 70 years ago... for christ sake we are bored of hearing about it.

Don't mention the war.