Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

Knex*

Andy Carroll wrote: »

The Adam Johnson thing, it said our opening bid would be £16m :eek:
I don't know much about the guy, not getting his game (okay, it's city), but an opening bid of £16m who apparently started 10 games last season causes me concern.

It's obviously a risk but the amount being offered is not risk like.

16m for him would be madness, absoulte madness. If the club really want to prove they've learnt from their mistakes they should stay the fcuk clear for anything over 10m, its just not worth the value.

16m could probably more or less get you Belhanda or Gaston Ramirez.

Jesus Wept

Hopefully just silly rumours. I hope we sign someone, I am bored. :P

redzerdrog

cheerio to maxi he was a decent servent to the club and never complained even though he should have got more gametime

On a plus thats another maybe £90,000 a week off the wage bill

just on the Diame signing he will provide decent backup for lucas without costing a fortune win win for us. regarding spearing there is no point selling him, his wages are hardly massive and he is not going to bring in a huge transfer fee. hold onto him we have plenty of matches this year and he can provide emergency cover. I wreckon he could still get 15+ games this year in all comps

mike65

Twitter is banging on about Maxi being off to Newells Old Boys.

Ah well, its no surprise. The real pity is LFC didn't sign him about 5 years sooner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9nnAKyz3w

Nuri Sahin

I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea and he did go missing a lot but in a short time he had on the pitch especially when he started, he was damn effective in front of goal.

Last season, started 10 and score 4 goals. Season before that, started 24 and scored 10.

One of our better free transfers in recent years, wish Maxi all the best.

klose

Is everyone on 90k at the club? Seems to be the only figure i see here, is there any evidence or just a big general guess?

mike65

So then of the first team squad three well flagged names have left, all of a certain age and wage. Will Joe Cole make it a quartet? I'd say so.

Samich

Diame would be a great buy for ye I reckon. Really impressed me last season, wouldn't mind seeing him at Utd On a free too.

Nuri Sahin

whippedcream wrote: »

Is everyone on 90k at the club? Seems to be the only figure i see here, is there any evidence or just a big general guess?

I'm fairly sure I read last year sometime that Maxi was on 60K a week. Could be wrong though.

K-9

mike65 wrote: »

So then of the first team squad three well flagged names have left, all of a certain age and wage. Will Joe Cole make it a quartet? I'd say so.

Hopefully so, should make a big difference to the wage bill.

We had reports of about a £30 Million kitty plus sales, I wouldn't be a fan of spending at least half that on Johnson.

K-9

-Ade- wrote: »

I'm fairly sure I read last year sometime that Maxi was on 60K a week. Could be wrong though.

I think there was a big signing on fee which brought it up, bit like the Cole and Jova deals.

Nuri Sahin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDCzID7KrI4

redzerdrog

whippedcream wrote: »

Is everyone on 90k at the club? Seems to be the only figure i see here, is there any evidence or just a big general guess?

it mostly educated guesses but the majority of reports I have seen quate maxi on close to £90k a week but that would have part of his signing on fee incorporated id imagine

mike65

K-9 wrote: »

Hopefully so, should make a big difference to the wage bill.

We had reports of about a £30 Million kitty plus sales, I wouldn't be a fan of spending at least half that on Johnson.

Johnson & Johnson?



or

Gbear

mike65 wrote: »

Johnson & Johnson?

Jay Spearing likes this:pac:

Kirby

redzerdrog wrote: »

it mostly educated guesses but the majority of reports I have seen quate maxi on close to £90k a week but that would have part of his signing on fee incorporated id imagine

Surely it should be incorporated though? As far as I'm aware, the big clubs don't really do signing on fee's in big lumps anymore. It gets spread out. So it is basically a part of a players weekly wage.

Leiva

I am the only one the doesn't rate Diame ?



And by the way Maxi is going nowhere . At least not for now .

Kirby

I've watched him alot under martinez. I quite like him. He's big physically, strong, quick, has good feet. He is like a lesser version of toure although diame has a much better engine. Toure can be a bit lazy. A very useful player and a great bit of business for liverpool on a free.

djPSB

I don't think Clarke will be a successful manager.

Good coach, but don't think he's great with the media.

Leiva

djPSB wrote: »

I don't think Clarke will be a successful manager.

Good coach, but don't think he's great with the media.

Mourinho says he is ready.

Mr Alan

Leiva wrote: »

Mourinho says he is ready.

Mourinho says a lot of stuff.

djPSB

Leiva wrote: »

Mourinho says he is ready.

He's very reserved.

He should have taken some of the interviews when Kenny was feeling the heat.

Leiva

Mr Alan wrote: »

Mourinho says a lot of stuff.

Yea like I am going to win the league before a certain date and does it.

opr

Clarke not speaking to the media wasn't his idea I would guess. I posted an hour long interview he did a while back and he came across very well.

The Maxi thing looks like it isn't true. Newell Boys reporting it as false.

Opr

Mr Alan

Leiva wrote: »

Yea like I am going to win the league before a certain date and does it.

Not always.

djPSB

Clarke has a good reputation but it's odd that both of the last two projects he has been involved in have failed. i.e Dalglish + Zola.

Gbear

Leiva wrote: »

Yea like I am going to win the league before a certain date and does it.

"Right after I vastly outspend all my rivals":pac:

djPSB

From the Newcastle thread:

'Just listened to an interview there live with Graham Carr on TalkSport. Amongst the key points he made were:

- He does not have an extensive network of scouts. He has 6 scouts he trusts and works very closely with them.

- The lower leagues in England simply do not have the talent currently to produce top talent, in the way Ian Wright, Stan Collymore etc were uncovered.

- All transfer targets for this summer are already identified. As such, he won't be monitoring the Euros with this summers window in mind.

- He relies almost wholly on his eyes versus technology. He disregards dvds from agents etc and bases all his work from his eyes and/or trusted scouts eyes.

I think the most important point for NUFC fans was this:

- Carr had a 3 hour meeting with Ashley and LLambias on tuesday. Ashley told him he was in this for the long term and wants Carr to continue his work of uncovering gems but NUFC will not become a selling club, that he wants to build on the success and potential of this season, but by continuing in the same method of unearthing top talent versus spending big.'

Sounds like the complete opposite to Comolli.

~Rebel~

djPSB wrote: »

Clarke has a good reputation but it's odd that both of the last two projects he has been involved in have failed. i.e Dalglish + Zola.

To a degree. He was at Liverpool as a defence coach. That side can't be considered a failure. People can question how big his impact was, but regardless, our defence was extremely solid, and was almost instantly better after he joined last season.

How he'll do when in charge of the whole shebang next season will be interesting to see. I bet West Brom will be mean in defence though.

With regards the media, who cares to be honest, it'll be one of the least important aspects of his job. It's not Liverpool - he'll just have to spout a few minutes of cliches after games, job done. Won't have a lot of Mainstream media exposure beyond that.

qvsr46ofgc792k

Leiva wrote: »

Mourinho says he is ready.

Ah well the he must be so..... ok?

Sir Gallagher

I always got the feeling Clarke was running things last season and Kenny was more of a figurehead.

Leiva

djPSB wrote: »

From the Newcastle thread:

'Just listened to an interview there live with Graham Carr on TalkSport. Amongst the key points he made were:

- He does not have an extensive network of scouts. He has 6 scouts he trusts and works very closely with them.

- The lower leagues in England simply do not have the talent currently to produce top talent, in the way Ian Wright, Stan Collymore etc were uncovered.

- All transfer targets for this summer are already identified. As such, he won't be monitoring the Euros with this summers window in mind.

- He relies almost wholly on his eyes versus technology. He disregards dvds from agents etc and bases all his work from his eyes and/or trusted scouts eyes.

I think the most important point for NUFC fans was this:

- Carr had a 3 hour meeting with Ashley and LLambias on tuesday. Ashley told him he was in this for the long term and wants Carr to continue his work of uncovering gems but NUFC will not become a selling club, that he wants to build on the success and potential of this season, but by continuing in the same method of unearthing top talent versus spending big.'

Sounds like the complete opposite to Comolli.

Which is why Ashley just got him to sign a 8yr ( yes 8yr) contract.

slingerz

Daime and Sigurdsson look like Liverpool's first 2 arrivals of the summer. Good enough acquisitions as they will push out the likes of Spearing and Adam from the first XI.

I wouldnt mind seeing a good overhaul of the squad to be honest. I think a lot of cash could be saved on wages alone by pursuing some options as opposed to what Liverpool have available.

If looking for a full back i think young Olsson from blackburn would be a useful addition

kingshankly

Also reckon we need a left full as Enrique is terrible going forward don't now how he is going to get on under Rodgers as he can't pass or cross a ball. No place for head down running anymore. I seriously believe we need a new left back and not as cover but as first choice would love to test evertons resolve and fire a big bid in for baines now this kid would be a revelation for us and is deadly from set pieces. Throw a 15 million bid in and test the water

Kirby

kingshankly wrote: »

Also reckon we need a left full as Enrique is terrible going forward don't now how he is going to get on under Rodgers as he can't pass or cross a ball. No place for head down running anymore. I seriously believe we need a new left back and not as cover but as first choice would love to test evertons resolve and fire a big bid in for baines now this kid would be a revelation for us and is deadly from set pieces. Throw a 15 million bid in and test the water

He can pass. and under rodgers system of zonal positioning when attacking he will always have an option open. If nobody is free or making themselves free, who can you pass to on the wing?

Captain Morgan Freeman

Leiva wrote: »

I am the only one the doesn't rate Diame ?

I don't think he's good enough to start every game but is a fine back up for Lucas who will be playing the majority of the games. He's free and as long as his wages aren't excessive then im happy. It's much better then spending around 5 million on some other DM that's going to sit on the bench.

EDIT: Anyone got a rough idea on what we have to spend this summer anyways?

mike65

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I don't get it?

stick-dan

King Kenny is working for the mirror now ????

Kenneth Dalglish ‏@kennethdalglish
Delighted to be working again...for The Mirror. KD

amiable

stick-dan wrote: »

King Kenny is working for the mirror now ????

Kenneth Dalglish ‏@kennethdalglish
Delighted to be working again...for The Mirror. KD

http://twitpic.com/9tvtq2

5live

Kirby wrote: »

He can pass. and under rodgers system of zonal positioning when attacking he will always have an option open. If nobody is free or making themselves free, who can you pass to on the wing?

Summary of last season tbh

Jesus Wept

Everything's coming up Milhouse for King Kenny.

amiable

Adam Johnson linked to Sunderland

Chucky the tree

For someone who had such contempt for the media and wouldn't "play the game" I'm surprised he's jumped into bed with them so quickly.

Knex*

Chucky the tree wrote: »

For someone who had such contempt for the media and wouldn't "play the game" I'm surprised he's jumped into bed with them so quickly.

I find it all a bit lol that he's writing for The Mirror tbh.

kevohmsford

Adam Johnson would be a great addition to the team. Not sure if Man City would sell him to us though.
I was disappointed when Gylfi Sigurdsson was going to sign for Swansea. A bargain for him. Hopefully he will sign for us.

amiable

kevohmsford wrote: »

Adam Johnson would be a great addition to the team. Not sure if Man City would sell him to us though.
I was disappointed when Gylfi Sigurdsson was going to sign for Swansea. A bargain for him. Hopefully he will sign for us.

Why would City not sell to Liverpool? They let Adebayor go to Spurs and seem willing to make it permanent

opr

He was writing for one of them right up until he got the Liverpool job.

Opr

Blatter

opr wrote: »

He was writing for one of them right up until he got the Liverpool job.

Opr

The Daily Mail, wasn't it? He was still writing for them for a few months after he got the Liverpool job iirc.

opr

Blatter wrote: »

The Daily Mail, wasn't it? He was still writing for them for a few months after he got the Liverpool job iirc.

Yeah I think it was them. I don't really see peoples problem. Kenny being uncomfortable in front of a camera, showing contempt towards certain sections of the media has very little to do with him writing a newspaper column. If the tabloids had more people like him writing for them they wouldn't be in such a state.

Opr