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Eircoms refusal to publish names of non Broadband enabled Exchanges

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  • 21-05-2012 8:38pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭


    As you may be aware Eircom has removed it's coverage map from the Eircom website and is now refusing to provide a list of the Exchanges that are not broadband enabled. The explanation given is that this is now confidential information that it does not have to make public. Although reps here will check on status of individual Exchanges they are prohibited from providing full list by their employers.  

    However given that Eircom has a monopoly on the provision of fixed line broadband and the public money that was provided to Eircom is the refusal to provide this information justified? 

    Approx 270 Exchanges were never enabled for basic broadband and on the basis that Eircom has no published plan or timetable to enable any more we can assume that the vast majority have been abandoned 

    Among these are  Exchanges in the major cities. Reps here have confirmed that Eircom has reneged on it's 2007 promise to take all broadband orders in the five major urban areas and that there are no plans to enable any more Exchanges in the cities. 

    The 2007 Upgrade program also  seems to have been abandoned.   The website listing exchanges that were to be enabled under the program has been shut down. 

    Perhaps a rep here could provide a reasonable explanation and justification for the refusal to make the full list of non enabled Exchanges available? 


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  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭ninjasurfer1


    They're a private company.
    I assume they don't have to provide this information unless instructed to by comreg?


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    They're a private company.
    I assume they don't have to provide this information unless instructed to by comreg?

    That seems to be their position. And there probably is no legal requirement for them to reveal the names of the 270+ Exchanges that were never broadband enabled. However given that they have a monopoly in the provision of fixed lune broadband and the economic consequences of such widespread Broadband unavailability un this country there is a public interest argument for political pressure to force them to reconsider.


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    There is a strong case to be made that Eircom should be forced to release this information in the public interest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Sure. Here you go. Note that eircom only ever promised to do 15 of these and some are serving one site only.

    Sorted by County. Yes there are very few NON enabled exchanges in Donegal. The reason they are secret is because they never told anybody that some of them actually exist....like they are supposed to. See the Google Map link. :)

    Name Code STD Enabled ? County
    BILBOA BIB 059 n Carlow
    FENAGH FEH 059 n Carlow
    HACKETSTOWN HKN 059 n Carlow
    MYSHALL MYL 059 n Carlow
    RATHOE RTO 059 n Carlow
    TEMPLEOWEN TMO 059 n Carlow
    BAWNBOY BBY 049 n Cavan
    BUTLERS BRIDGE BUB 049 n Cavan
    CANNINGSTOWN CAW 042 n Cavan
    CROSS KEYS CKS 049 n Cavan
    SWANLINBAR SBR 049 n Cavan
    BALLYVAUGHAN BVN 065 n Clare
    BEHAGH BHH 065 n Clare
    BROADFORD (Shannon) BRF 061 n Clare
    CAHER CER 061 n Clare
    CARRON CRR 065 n Clare
    CRAGGAGH CAG 065 n Clare
    DOONAHA DHA 065 n Clare
    INAGH ING 065 n Clare
    KILKEE KKE 065 n Clare
    KNOCK KCK 065 n Clare
    LABASHEEDA LDA 065 n Clare
    LISSYCASEY LCY 065 n Clare
    MONEYPOINT MPT 065 n Clare
    OGONNELLOE OGO 061 n Clare
    RAHEY CROSS RYX 065 n Clare
    RUAN RUN 065 n Clare
    ARDFIELD ALD 023 n Cork
    ARDGROOM ADM 027 n Cork
    ASHMOUNT ASM 021 n Cork
    BALLYDESMOND BMD 064 n Cork
    BALLYMACODA BMA 024 n Cork
    BALLYNOE BLO 058 n Cork
    BERNEY'S CROSS BYX 029 n Cork
    BWEENG BWG 021 n Cork
    CAHERAGH CEA 028 n Cork
    CAPE CLEAR CCI 028 n Cork
    CARRIGANIMMY CIM 026 n Cork
    CHURCHTOWN CHW 022 n Cork
    CONNA CNN 058 n Cork
    CROSSBARRY CBA 021 n Cork
    CULLEN CUX 029 n Cork
    DUNDERROW DUW 021 n Cork
    INCHYDONEY INY 023 n Cork
    KILCROHANE KCH 027 n Cork
    KNOCKNAGREE KNG 064 n Cork
    KNOCKRAHA KHA 021 n Cork
    LISLEVANE LVN 023 n Cork
    LYRE LYR 029 n Cork
    MEELIN MEN 029 n Cork
    MILFORD MLD 063 n Cork
    NEWCESTOWN NCN 021 n Cork
    NEWTOWNSHANDRUM NSM 063 n Cork
    RINGASKIDDY PORT RIP 021 n Cork
    ROCKCHAPEL RCH 029 n Cork
    SALLYBROOK SBK 021 n Cork
    TARELTON TAN 026 n Cork
    TEMPLEMARTIN TPN 021 n Cork
    ARRANMORE ARN 074 n Donegal
    CULDAFF CDF 074 n Donegal
    DOIRE CHONAIRE DCE 074 n Donegal
    GLENEELY GEY 074 n Donegal
    ST JOHNSTON STJ 074 n Donegal
    BALDOYLE BDL 01 n Dublin
    BALGADDY BGD 01 n Dublin
    CLONSKEAGH CKH 01 n Dublin
    OLDTOWN OLD 01 n Dublin
    PEAMOUNT LANE PML 01 n Dublin
    IBMSITE IBM 01 n Dublin
    CASHEL CAS 095 n Galway
    CLEGGAN CGG 095 n Galway
    CLONBUR CNB 094 n Galway
    CREGGS CGS 090 n Galway
    EYRECOURT ECT 090 n Galway
    GLANN GLA 091 n Galway
    GURTEEN GUN 090 n Galway
    INISBOFIN IBF 095 n Galway
    INISHERE IHR 099 n Galway
    INISHMAAN INM 099 n Galway
    KILLIMOR KIR 090 n Galway
    KILRICKLE KCE 091 n Galway
    KILRONAN KRN 099 n Galway
    KNOCKFERRY KNF 091 n Galway
    LETTERFRACK LKR 095 n Galway
    MAAM MAM 091 n Galway
    NEW INN NIN 090 n Galway
    NEWBRIDGE NBE 090 n Galway
    RECESS RCS 095 n Galway
    ROUNDSTONE RST 095 n Galway
    TOBERELATAN TBL 091 n Galway
    TULLY CROSS TUX 095 n Galway
    WOODLAWN WLN 090 n Galway
    ANNASCAUL ACL 066 n Kerry
    ASDEE ASD 068 n Kerry
    BALLINSKELLIGS BKS 066 n Kerry
    BALLYDAVID BYD 066 n Kerry
    BLACKWATER BRIDGE BIG 064 n Kerry
    BROSNA BNA 068 n Kerry
    CAHERDANIEL CRD 066 n Kerry
    CLOGHANE CHA 066 n Kerry
    CLONKEEN CKE 064 n Kerry
    FINUGE FGE 068 n Kerry
    FYBAGH FYB 066 n Kerry
    GLENCAR GCR 066 n Kerry
    INCH INH 066 n Kerry
    KELLS KLL 066 n Kerry
    LAURAGH LRH 064 n Kerry
    LISSELTON LSN 068 n Kerry
    LYRACROMPANE LPN 068 n Kerry
    MUCKROSS MUC 064 n Kerry
    PORTMAGEE PME 066 n Kerry
    TUOSIST TST 064 n Kerry
    VALENTIA ISLAND VIS 066 n Kerry
    VENTRY VTY 066 n Kerry
    ALLENWOOD ALW 045 n Kildare
    ARDCLOUGH ARC 01 n Kildare
    CALVERSTOWN CVW 045 n Kildare
    CHERRYVILLE CYE 045 n Kildare
    COLBINSTOWN COL 045 n Kildare
    COOLCARRIGAN CCG 045 n Kildare
    HEWLETT-PACKARD HPD 01 n Kildare
    INTEL INL 01 n Kildare
    KILMEAD KMD 059 n Kildare
    NARRAGHMORE NAR 059 n Kildare
    PUNCHESTOWN CROSS PNC 045 n Kildare
    COON COO 056 n Kilkenny
    JOHNSWELL JWL 056 n Kilkenny
    OLDTOWN OWN 056 n Kilkenny
    THE ROWER RWR 051 n Kilkenny
    ARLES ARL 059 n Laois
    BALLINAKILL BAK 057 n Laois
    BALLINTUBBERT BBT 059 n Laois
    BALLYFIN BIN 057 n Laois
    CLOUGH COU 057 n Laois
    COOLRAIN CRN 057 n Laois
    CULLAHILL CIL 057 n Laois
    ERRILL ERL 0505 n Laois
    LUGGACURREN LRN 057 n Laois
    ROUNDWOOD ROW 057 n Laois
    SHANAHOE SNO 057 n Laois
    THE SWAN TSW 059 n Laois
    WOLFHILL WOL 059 n Laois
    TIMAHOE TOE 057 n Laois
    AUGHACASHEL AUG 071 n Leitrim
    CARRIGALLEN CIG 049 n Leitrim
    CLOONE CLU 071 n Leitrim
    DOWRA DRA 071 n Leitrim
    DRUMKEERAN DKN 071 n Leitrim
    GLENFARNE GLF 071 n Leitrim
    KILTYCLOGHER KLR 071 n Leitrim
    NEWTOWNGORE NGO 049 n Leitrim
    BALLAGH BAH 069 n Limerick
    BALLYAGRAN BGN 063 n Limerick
    BRUREE BEE 063 n Limerick
    CASTLEMAHON CMN 069 n Limerick
    FEENAGH FGH 063 n Limerick
    GALBALLY GBY 062 n Limerick
    GLENROE GLO 063 n Limerick
    GRANAGH GNG 061 n Limerick
    HERBERTSTOWN HBN 061 n Limerick
    KILMEEDY KMY 063 n Limerick
    KNOCKADERRY KKY 069 n Limerick
    MARTINSTOWN MAN 063 n Limerick
    MEANUS MUS 061 n Limerick
    TOURNAFULLA TFA 069 n Limerick
    ARDAGH ADH 043 n Longford
    CARRICKGLASS CKG 043 n Longford
    CLONDRA CNA 043 n Longford
    COLEHILL CLL 044 n Longford
    KENAGH KNA 043 n Longford
    MOYNE CROSS MEX 049 n Longford
    NEWTOWNCASHEL NTC 043 n Longford
    RACECOURSE ROAD RCR 042 n Louth
    READYPENNY RPY 042 n Louth
    ATTYMASS ATS 096 n Mayo
    BALLYCASTLE BCE 096 n Mayo
    BALLYCROY BYR 098 n Mayo
    BANGOR ERRIS BES 097 n Mayo
    BINGHAMSTOWN BHM 097 n Mayo
    BLACKSOD BKD 097 n Mayo
    CARROWMORELACKEN CMK 096 n Mayo
    CLARE ISLAND CIS 098 n Mayo
    CLOGHANS CRF 096 n Mayo
    CLOONAGH CAH 098 n Mayo
    CURRANE CUA 098 n Mayo
    DOOLEEG DLG 096 n Mayo
    FERRYBRIDGE FBD 094 n Mayo
    GARRANARD GRD 096 n Mayo
    GEESALA GSL 097 n Mayo
    GLENAMOY GMI 097 n Mayo
    GLENISLAND GIL 094 n Mayo
    HOLLYMOUNT HMT 094 n Mayo
    KEEL KEL 098 n Mayo
    KILLADOON KON 098 n Mayo
    MULRANY MRY 098 n Mayo
    PARK PRK 094 n Mayo
    ROSSPORT RSP 097 n Mayo
    TOOREEN TOR 094 n Mayo
    TOURMAKEADY TEY 094 n Mayo
    URLAUR URL 094 n Mayo
    CASTLEJORDAN CSJ 046 n Meath
    DUNDERRY DDY 046 n Meath
    FORDSTOWN FWN 046 n Meath
    KILBRIDE KBE 01 n Meath
    KILSHARVAN KSV 041 n Meath
    LONGWOOD LWD 046 n Meath
    ROBINSTOWN RBT 046 n Meath
    ANNYALLA AYL 042 n Monaghan
    GLASSLOUGH GLS 047 n Monaghan
    STRANOODEN SON 042 n Monaghan
    BALLYDALY BDA 057 n Offaly
    BRACKNAGH BKG 057 n Offaly
    CLOGHAN CGH 090 n Offaly
    CLONBULLOGUE CBE 046 n Offaly
    CLONYGOWAN CYG 057 n Offaly
    LEABEG LAG 057 n Offaly
    POLLAGH PLL 057 n Offaly
    SHANNONBRIDGE SNB 090 n Offaly
    TULLAMORE COURT TMC 057 n Offaly
    WALSH ISLAND WIS 057 n Offaly
    KINNITY KNT 057 n Offaly
    BALLYFORAN BFN 090 n Roscommon
    EMMOO JUNCTION EMJ 090 n Roscommon
    FOUR ROADS FRS 090 n Roscommon
    MONKSLAND MNK 090 n Roscommon
    TAUGHMACONNELL TML 090 n Roscommon
    BUNNANADDAN BUD 071 n Sligo
    DROMARD DMD 071 n Sligo
    LAVAGH LVH 071 n Sligo
    AGHANCON AHC 057 n Tipperary
    AHERLOW AHO 062 n Tipperary
    BALLINGARRY BRY 067 n Tipperary
    BALLYMACKEY BCK 067 n Tipperary
    BALLYPOREEN BPN 052 n Tipperary
    BOHERLAHAN BON 0504 n Tipperary
    CARRIG CGB 057 n Tipperary
    COOLBAWN CBN 067 n Tipperary
    CRINKILL CRI 090 n Tipperary
    GOOLDS CROSS GSX 0504 n Tipperary
    KILCOMMON KCO 062 n Tipperary
    LISRONAGH LSR 052 n Tipperary
    MOYNE MNE 0504 n Tipperary
    MULLENNAGLOUGH MUG 051 n Tipperary
    NEW INN NWN 052 n Tipperary
    REARCROSS RRX 062 n Tipperary
    ROSEGREEN RGN 062 n Tipperary
    ROSSOULTY RSY 0504 n Tipperary
    SILVERMINES SIL 067 n Tipperary
    TEMPLEDERRY TDY 0504 n Tipperary
    TEMPLETUOHY TPY 0504 n Tipperary
    TOOMEVARA TOO 067 n Tipperary
    BALLINAMULT BAM 058 n Waterford
    BALLYMACARBRY BMY 052 n Waterford
    CLASHMORE CMO 058 n Waterford
    LOSKERAN LOS 058 n Waterford
    SHANBALLY SHY 058 n Waterford
    STRADBALLY STY 051 n Waterford
    BALLYMORE BYW 044 n Westmeath
    BALLYNACARGY BNY 044 n Westmeath
    FINEA FNA 043 n Westmeath
    ROSEMOUNT ROT 090 n Westmeath
    ADAMSTOWN ADT 053 n Wexford
    MONAMOLIN MLN 053 n Wexford
    COOLKENNO CKO 059 n Wicklow
    ENNISKERRY KILGARRON EKK 01 n Wicklow
    GLENCREE GNE 01 n Wicklow
    KILMACANOGUE KMC 01 n Wicklow
    REDCROSS RDS 0404 n Wicklow
    VALLEYMOUNT VMT 045 n Wicklow


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    Thanks Spongebob. Wonder if Eircom have any plans to enable any of these in the future.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    We have been over 5 years waiting for eircom to upgrade around 15 of the 270 odd exchanges on that list and they have not even apologised for the delay.

    They will have some spare equipment after they execute the VDSL program in urban areas as they will swap out some ASL cabinets for faster gear.....meaning they might even finish Kilrickle and Calverstown 6-7 years after they promised they would.

    But in fairness they said that most of the exchanges listed above were too small to upgrade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭eircom: Tony


    regress wrote: »
    As you may be aware Eircom has removed it's coverage map from the Eircom website and is now refusing to provide a list of the Exchanges that are not broadband enabled. The explanation given is that this is now confidential information that it does not have to make public. Although reps here will check on status of individual Exchanges they are prohibited from providing full list by their employers.

    However given that Eircom has a monopoly on the provision of fixed line broadband and the public money that was provided to Eircom is the refusal to provide this information justified?

    Approx 270 Exchanges were never enabled for basic broadband and on the basis that Eircom has no published plan or timetable to enable any more we can assume that the vast majority have been abandoned

    Among these are Exchanges in the major cities. Reps here have confirmed that Eircom has reneged on it's 2007 promise to take all broadband orders in the five major urban areas and that there are no plans to enable any more Exchanges in the cities.

    The 2007 Upgrade program also seems to have been abandoned. The website listing exchanges that were to be enabled under the program has been shut down.

    Perhaps a rep here could provide a reasonable explanation and justification for the refusal to make the full list of non enabled Exchanges available?


    Hi Regress
    At no stage did we confirm the above. Our statement was in fact

    'In regards to this DSL deployment we have been advised that The Deployment Plan is subject to change as individual projects may be delayed / brought forward due to technical considerations. (The Rollout of NGB and Fibre, as demand for faster services increases, along with other infrastructure and technological changes since 2007 for example). I, Mark and Ant have made numerous enquiries on this issue and We have not received any notification that plans to continue deployment to provide DSL have been discarded. We have posted this response earlier on this thread.'


    While the site you mention has been removed, and the replacement NGB site also, this is due to the total over haul and updating of our online pages and content.


    As also stated on the same post ( link here) we do not have any further information. The reps here are happy and willing to provide any requested information and will do so once available. We will also advise when online sites have been brought back online.



    Tony


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    A list of ADSL2 enabled exchanges that are NOT among the 300 odd NGB enabled exchanges would be nice Tony.

    If you are on a roll then maybe a list of exchanges that are enabled but which do not supply greater than 3mbit broadband as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    What happens to all the people in thsese areas who sign up for broadband only to be told your line is not suitable or is shared with your neighbours? Is Dial-up their only option?

    Whatever happened to that boffoon from Fianna Failed or the once famous green party who was going to roll around the country giving the pesants fast reliable broadband?


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    Hi Regress
    At no stage did we confirm the above. Our statement was in fact

    'In regards to this DSL deployment we have been advised that The Deployment Plan is subject to change as individual projects may be delayed / brought forward due to technical considerations. . Have not received any notification that plans to continue deployment to provide DSL have been discarded.



    While the site you mention has been removed, . , this is due to the total over haul and updating of our online pages


    I assume that the Deployment Plan that you are referring to is the 2007 Deployment Plan that was rolled out with such fanfare and  under which Eircom promised to enable listed Exchanges for basic broadband. Unless you are insinuating that there is a second secret Deployment plan that Eircom has told nobody about.
    You claim that this plan has not been abandoned . However
     
    1.       Eircom promised to complete this plan by 2009.  It is now 2012.  
    2.       Eircom has shut down the website that gave details of the progress of the Deployment Plan. Why would you do this if plan had not been abandoned.  You say that the plan is subject to change yet are unwilling or unable to say what these changes are.
    3.       You are unable to say when or if any remaining  Exchanges listed in the Deployment Plan of five years ago will ever be enabled.  A timetable for enabling the Exchanges was available on the website which has now been shut down. But now for “operational reasons” information is no longer available.
     
     
    It should also be noted that only 15 of the 270 non enabled Exchanges are covered in the Deployment Plan.  And of course you can’t say if there will ever be another Deployment plan to cover any of the these.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    foggy_lad wrote: »

    Whatever happened to that boffoon from Fianna Failed or the once famous green party who was going to roll around the country giving the pesants fast reliable broadband?

    The buffoon sold Eircom and the peasants have been stuck with dongles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    Hi Ren2k7,
      
     I have spoken to our broadband......roll  out team. They have advised that at the moment there is no plans.....
      
     They advised that there is not an escalation point  or process in which eircom are addressing queries regarding enabling exchanges of  broadband .
      
     I am very sorry I could not get back with better  news .
      
     Thanks, Mark  

    Despite repeated denials, it sounds very much like the rollout of fixed line broadband in Ireland has been abandoned. The promises of yesteryear have been broken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    We have not received any notification that plans to continue deployment to provide DSL have been discarded. We have posted this response earlier on this thread.'

    we do not have any further information.


    Tony


    That is a totally unsatisfactory response. Either the rollout of fixd line broadband in Ireland
    been abondended or it hasn't. If it hasn't, Eircom should be able to say when the next Exchange will be broadband enabled. Are there any plans to enable any of the Exchanges that Eircom promised to broadband enable by 2009 in the Deployment Plan. . Saying that like Manuel "you know nothing" is unacceptable.

    There are 270 Exchanges listed above in the list provided by Spongebob that are not enabled for basic broadband. As an Eiecom rep you should be able to tell us if there are any plans to broadband enable any if these Exchanges. If you are unable to say the only logical inference is that the rollout of broadband has been abandoned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    march  2015 and keenagh co longford is still a black hole when it comes to broadband, its a F***ing disgrace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭eircom: Alan


    spongbob wrote: »
    march  2015 and keenagh co longford is still a black hole when it comes to broadband, its a F***ing disgrace
    Hi spongbob

    I'm sorry to confirm that there are no plans for keenagh, hopefully we will have better news towards the end of the year

    Thanks
    Al


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    we do not have any further information.  We will also advise when online sites have been brought back online.



    Tony
    Still waiting Tony. Perhaps you might also explain why Eircom has been lying for years on its official site about which areas have broadband enabled Exchanges and has refused for years to correct this deliberately false information. 

    Only change seems to be that non enabled Exchanges that years ago Eircom claimed to be DSL enabled you are now claiming are fibre enabled. From one shameless barefaced lie to another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭eircom: Tony


    Regress

    this has never been an issue of false information.
    eircom are happy to make available all information on current or past stages of our national roll out of eFibre, however, we do not have information on unplanned or work to be carried out outside of currently planned stages. Any information provided on unplanned ( where arrangements, work orders and licenses have been obtained) work would likely see changes to rol out dates.

    Our interactive map clearly states that it is a quick guide to the areas where eFibre is rolling out.
    "Click on a shaded area below. Please note: this map is for illustrative purposes only and not all homes within the eFibre area can avail of the service. To determine if eFibre is available at your home, please enter your home phone number or address into our interactive tool."
    This map gives the best current overview of our current roll out plans. While it is true that there have been some delays in rolling this out in some areas, those areas earmarked for eFibre within this and current phases of the roll out will receive this service.
     
    For areas not yet included in our current map, just  Register your details here and we will contact you as soon as it becomes available.

    As stated in the past, the information illustrated within our maps are a guide of a nationwide roll out. Customers seeking more information around their specific address have the options offered above and of contacting us directly.
    We will be glad to advise in these cases.


    Tony 


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭regress


    this has never been an issue of false information.



    Disclaimer again that issue is not with you but with Eircom.
     
     
    It absolutely is an issue of false information. This is the central issue and I contend that you are being totally disingenuous in your convoluted attempts to justify the telling of deliberate lies by your employer.
     
     
    FACT Eircom is stating on its official website that broadband is available in areas that it knows that broadband is not available.
     
    FACT This is not a mistake or accidental. Eircom has been fully aware for years that information it is providing is false and has refused for years to correct it.
     
     
    clearly states that it is a quick guide........for illustrative purposes only ........ the information.... are a guide


    The disclaimers ““clearly states that it is a quick guide”   “for illustrative purposes only” “ the information illustrated within our maps are a guide”
    does not excuse the deliberate dissemination of knowingly false information.
     





    This map gives the best current overview of our current roll out plans. While it is true that there have been some delays in rolling this out in some areas,


    A poor attempt to muddy the waters.  Lets confine this exclusively to areas that Eircom is claiming that broadband is now available.   And where Eircom knows broadband is not available and has no plans delayed or otherwise to provide broadband.


    Customers seeking more information around their specific address have the options offered above and of contacting us directly.
    We will be glad to advise in these cases.



    If I am understanding you correctly this is a tacit admission that the information on Eircoms site can be incorrect and false. But that those in affected areas will only be told this if they contact Eircom directly. If you told the truth on your official site they would not have to do so.
     
     


    FACT: Eircom is deliberately and knowingly lying on its official site about the availability of broadband in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭eircom: Tony


    regress wrote: »
    this has never been an issue of false information.



    Disclaimer again that issue is not with you but with Eircom.
     
     
    It absolutely is an issue of false information. This is the central issue and I contend that you are being totally disingenuous in your convoluted attempts to justify the telling of deliberate lies by your employer.
     
     
    FACT Eircom is stating on its official website that broadband is available in areas that it knows that broadband is not available.
     
    FACT This is not a mistake or accidental. Eircom has been fully aware for years that information it is providing is false and has refused for years to correct it.
     
     
    clearly states that it is a quick guide........for illustrative purposes only ........ the information.... are a guide


    The disclaimers ““clearly states that it is a quick guide”   “for illustrative purposes only” “ the information illustrated within our maps are a guide”
    does not excuse the deliberate dissemination of knowingly false information.
     





    This map gives the best current overview of our current roll out plans. While it is true that there have been some delays in rolling this out in some areas,


    A poor attempt to muddy the waters.  Lets confine this exclusively to areas that Eircom is claiming that broadband is now available.   And where Eircom knows broadband is not available and has no plans delayed or otherwise to provide broadband.


    Customers seeking more information around their specific address have the options offered above and of contacting us directly.
    We will be glad to advise in these cases.



    If I am understanding you correctly this is a tacit admission that the information on Eircoms site can be incorrect and false. But that those in affected areas will only be told this if they contact Eircom directly. If you told the truth on your official site they would not have to do so.
     
     


    FACT: Eircom is deliberately and knowingly lying on its official site about the availability of broadband in Ireland.
    Regress
    it is obvious form your tone and constant misuse of the word "fact" that your real agenda here is to provoke and muddy actual issue.
    A clear and honest response has been provided to your post. As has a system by which any customer can contact us for information on current and planned work in their area.
    eircom have in fact overhauled its eFibre map on a number of occasions to provide the clearest guide to this roll out. The map is a guide, for specific information on an address, or for areas not yet included in our current map, just  Register your details here and we will contact you as soon as it becomes available.
    As this is our final word on this matter I shall not be responding further to your posts on this.
    However any customer who does wish further information on their area or address should feel free to use the channels I have outlined above. Or just PM us here and we can have this checked for you.
    Tony


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Closing this.

    Regress, please review your posting style before posting in here again. Thank you.


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