I can't believe there are still Northern Irish people like this.

omgitsthelazor

I decided recently to sign up for a Northern Irish football forum. Why? Because I was interested to see what they were saying on the James McClean twitter stuff. I LIKE LURKING FORUMS OK, don't judge.

The one I found from google was called "our wee country", all posts weren't viewable by default so I registered an account.
During registration it asked me where I was from from a list of NI, ROI, England, Scotland or other. I picked ROI
They asked me to wait for an administrator to approve my account, I waited a week and nothing. Eventually I couldn't log in, the administrator had apparently rejected and deleted my account.

I made another using a northern Irish proxy and lied that I was from NI, this one was approved. And what I see there, my gosh the bitterness, bile and hatred would put even the After Hours hardcore to shame.

Just some examples.

-> They refer to the club "Derry City" as "Londonderry City". That isn't its name.

-> In discussion of an article involving a poor lad getting beaten up in Derry for wearing a NI shirt their collective response to the article is complaining that the media didn't report this enough but report Loyalist led violence a lot. Strangely I didn't see any discussion of loyalist violence in 3 years worth of threads.

-> In a thread advertising an RTE program on football the spend its duration ranting about how RTE supposedly is the broadcaster for the "free state" but continuously ignores the 6 counties. On the 5th and last page one guy asks "so did anyone watch it?", to which there was no reply.

-> Language is seemingly a big thing, in a lengthy and non-political thread about the recent world cup bid a nationalist slips a reference to Ireland and NI as "both Irish countries" to which the thread was derailed with much disapprovement and political rebuttal to his utterance. The guy defended it as his beliefs, he was seemingly banned.

-> The forum claims to welcome NI fans of any background yet it one of its forum categories for Scottish/English football is entitled "the mainland".

-> Their description for the "other sport" forum is "Rugby, Cricket even GAA!". Why "even" GAA?

-> They describe NI born players who play for the republic as "defecting". I guess the GFA never happened.

-> On Darron Gibson closing his twitter account 2 hours after creating it, one of them admits to being responsible for deluging him with abuse. He is promptly congratulated by the rest of them.


Sorry if I'm not explaining it well but for a sporting website the serious cynical and political tone was a real eye opener for me. They really do appear to attempt to see everything in a nationalist/loyalist light and everything, absolutely everything is about scoring points against one another with a real with/against attitude.
I thought we'd moved past this kind of thing.

TouchingVirus

When you see Stormfront you'll shít yourself

Undercover FBI Agent

Meh

Tossers all over the world unfortunatly

Lumbo

I was in Belfast at the weekend. Nice little city. Walked past the South Belfast Northern Ireland Supporters club at one stage. Decided it wasn't the best place to nip into for a quick pint.

I can't believe anyone in Ireland is naive enough to think there AREN'T a lot of Northern Irish people like this. Narrow mindedness and bigotry are far from uncommon. I was forever meeting friends of friends with views and attitudes like that.

admiralofthefleet

was it anything to do with that bigot willy frazer?

omgitsthelazor

Oh they also have a thread about bars which are blacklisted. Their reasoning for blacklisting includes "a bouncer asked me to take off my NI scarf".
They were let in and everything, just not allowed display something that could have offended people. Why is that unreasonable or reason to tell a forum that the place is "scum" and nobody should ever go there?

Latchy

Smallminded , insular ,island mentality was always one of the worst attributes to the Norn Irish .Sad to think that it took the events of 9/11 to blow that part of Irelands woes away from the front pages to .

omgitsthelazor

Marcel Chilly Viking wrote: »

I can't believe anyone in Ireland is naive enough to think there AREN'T a lot of Northern Irish people like this. Narrow mindedness and bigotry are far from uncommon. I was forever meeting friends of friends with views and attitudes like that.

I was of the impression things weren't as bad as they once were, certainly here I see and hear a lot less bigotry towards protestants nowadays than when I was growing up. I assumed there was similar progression up there

golden lane

please don't think that the majority of ni people are like that......they are just people trying to make their way in this life....

Kidchameleon

Man if we win the Euro's that site would be troll heaven for me...

Ghandee

OP doesn't understand the sit-you-ation up there :pac:


Seriously though,v there are good and bad on both sides.

Let them at it.

krudler

they're an odd bunch up there.

wellboytoo

I see the Lazor is still hopping balls....... carefull now lads!

Doc Ruby

golden lane wrote: »

please don't think that the majority of ni people are like that......they are just people trying to make their way in this life....

I think its fairly safe to draw a distinction between the "ulster scots" and the Republican camp up there. Of course the whole shambles was set in motion, typically enough, by the english, so credit where credit is due. The likes of Ian Paisley fanning the flames of intolerance and hatred for decades have left their mark on what could have otherwise been quite a nice place.

Whats the URL of this forum by the way?

NIMAN

I am a Nationalist from NI who used to go to NI matches with my dad back int he late 70s and 80s. I enjoyed it myself but I was too young to understand any chanting that was going on.

They had a major problem back then, and to be fair to a lot of them and the IFA, they have tried really hard to change attitudes at Windsor and among their fans. It has succeeded to a degree but there si still a high number of bigoted ones among them who want nothing to do with anything Nationalist. They are stuck in 1690 and there's no changing them.

I am a fan of Derry City and recently we had the scumbags of Linfield down with us in the Setanta Cup. Jez, but they are a bad bunch. Hatred, hatred, hatred, and of course always try to shift the blame on to others.

The history of football in NI has a bad past, and hopefully it can improve, but its going to be a slow process when the majority of its support base see it as a unionist team for a unionist people.

My last visit to Windsor PArk was maybe with some friends around 15yrs or so ago (v Spain). Something about theplace stil didn't feel welcoming. Perhaps thats as much an issue with me as them? Although a lot of the sectarian chanting was gone, the new chanting had a lot of references to Ulster men etc, and it still didn't feel 'home' for me, which technically it is. And of course the vast majority of Nationalists from NI don't see it as 'their team'.

As for that forum, I have seen plenty of refernces to it in the past. I know what its like. Put simply, you ain't welcome. I know plenty of Derry fans who used to post on it, but you get banned for questioning anything on it. You have to play by their rules. End of.

omgitsthelazor

omgitsthelazor wrote: »

I was of the impression things weren't as bad as they once were, certainly here I see and hear a lot less bigotry towards protestants nowadays than when I was growing up. I assumed there was similar progression up there

Why? It's a totally different kettle of fish there. It's a totally different country. When I moved down south for college (in 2003), the cultural differences were so enormous that I might as well have gone abroad. I went from a country where your last name defines you in every aspect of life (it wasn't at all uncommon for strangers to ask 'what you were' on a night out) to one where nobody is even sure whether their friends are Catholic or Protestant. Sure, things are better than they once were but it's far, far, far from being in any way normal.

Fromthetrees

Let them at it, we can cream off their best Nationalist players as a result, hey guys, give us Gibson and McClean and ye can have eh...mmm...Paddy McCourt??? Okay?

Thanks lads.

IrishAm

The FAI should set up a meaningless friendly each year with complete minnows and use it as an opportunity just to cap any half decent Northern Irish born player.

Have a big ceremony before kick off to welcome the 20 newly capped players. Fireworks, shake hands with Michael D, the whole shebang.

Troll the shit out of them.

Ronin247

It was a way of life for hundreds of years,it wont change overnight.Religion ruled everything in the North,what area you lived in,what school you went to,where you could and could not socialise and even if you got a job or not.It should be no surprise it is in football too.
Must register and tell a few Rangers jokes.

Owen_S

They sent death threats to Neil Lennon for playing for the country.
They sent death threats to James McClean for not playing for the country.


They seem like a bright bunch of lads.

afro man

Lumbo wrote: »

I was in Belfast at the weekend. Nice little city. Walked past the South Belfast Northern Ireland Supporters club at one stage. Decided it wasn't the best place to nip into for a quick pint.

not the most welcoming of pubs even from the outside , you would be a brave man to nip in for a quick pint

Latchy

They are a very fcuked up bunch of people alreet .

What's sad is that whoever up there try's to live outside that narrow viewpoint is threatened with god knows what ,so they live within those restrictions of what they can say or do in fear ...just like it was duing the height of the troubles .

omgitsthelazor

wellboytoo wrote: »

I see the Lazor is still hopping balls....... carefull now lads!

scuse me? :mad:

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I think its fairly safe to draw a distinction between the "ulster scots" and the Republican camp up there. Of course the whole shambles was set in motion, typically enough, by the english, so credit where credit is due. The likes of Ian Paisley fanning the flames of intolerance and hatred for decades have left their mark on what could have otherwise been quite a nice place.

Whats the URL of this forum by the way?

http://ourweecountry.co.uk/

You need to register and for it to be approved to view anything.

Doc Ruby

omgitsthelazor wrote: »

http://ourweecountry.co.uk/

You need to register and for it to be approved to view anything.

Wow. Same (ironically) celtic cross as stormfront, same protected forums, the whole package. Its like euro-taleban central. We are going to have a hell of a time bringing that lot into the 21st century after the english finally clear out.

Dudess

Most of that strikes me as pretty mild tbh OP. Not saying it's good or anything, but I've seen/heard of FAR worse...

Jimoslimos

Seems rather tame compared to some of the bile out there.

The "London-Derry" City guff is childish and poor trolling attempt at the very few Nationalist posters.

Lots of people here jokingly refer to Great Britain as the mainland, given that it's the next biggest landmass. In the context of the political situation up north, another attempted wind-up.

Suprised to see GAA actually listed as a sport. Progress! There's plenty down here that wouldn't even afford it that privilege.

As for the NI players declaring for the Republic, think on that one they might need to take a long look in the mirror. It's hard enough to be successful given the tiny population (as well as competing sports), even harder if you alienate a significant proportion of the population. From the ROI point of view I'm happy for them to continue their bigotted points of view........but please please do this BEFORE the player has decided who he wants to play for.

donegal_road

go onto youtube and have a look through some of the comments left on videos related to the Troubles, or the paramilitaries. You will get an idea of what kind of attitudes are still alive and well today

Doc Ruby

Domo230 wrote: »

Fixed your post

It's all the Frenchs fault really

Sly bastids.

The normans were long gone by the time of the plantations.

Mint Sauce

As for scotish and english football. In terms of the UK, they are the mainland.

What really surprises me though is, keith hasn't posted yet.

LH Pathe

There'll always be Irish like that. In Ireland; that's what disgusts me so that they've been dragged down to that level by British incursion instilling mannerisms - can't be easy.

Defiler Of The Coffin

afro man wrote: »

not the most welcoming of pubs even from the outside , you would be a brave man to nip in for a quick pint

It does say 'Visitors Welcome' above the door though, never bothered testing it myself...

Also OP you'd well believe there are bigoted NI people if you spent any amount of time there.

LH Pathe

You get this neverending circle of youths trying to outpopate each other, ever the younger. Über skanks; here in Ireland borne out of paranoia and territorial dispute - cheers Britain. Put manners on us alright, you garbage it's a war that'll sadly never end til Britain is banished

woodoo

irish-stew wrote: »

As for scotish and english football. In terms of the UK, they are the mainland.

What really surprises me though is, keith hasn't posted yet.

Kieth is no more he was permabanned. I'd say he is hanging around our wee country and youtube spouting unmoderated bile.

J Cheever Loophole

Our wee country (OWC) is infamous for the "views" expressed by many of its members. It is a cold house for anyone of a Nationalist bent.

The reason you have to be a member to view the posts is that previously when the threads were open, the views expressed therein were often quoted elsewhere on the net, which caused severe embarrassment all round.

How do you stop embarrassing yourself? Censure the more extreme views maybe?

Nah, simply keep those views in house!! Problem sorted!!

Football for all, eh?

cesc77

Ghandee wrote: »

OP doesn't understand the sit-you-ation up there :pac:


Seriously though,v there are good and bad on both sides.

Let them at it.

sit-ye-aishin,ye posh cnut

cesc77

krudler wrote: »

they're an odd bunch up there.

Thanks for grouping together the oddnessicity of an entire nation due to a single post.

Icelandic people may say the same thing but they would be statistically more accurate.Fact!


Now p1ss off,we're all a bit odd here on this wee island.Its what makes us who we are:pac:

Minority,extreme views should not taint a nation

woodoo

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Our wee country (OWC) is infamous for the "views" expressed by many of its members. It is a cold house for anyone of a Nationalist bent.

The reason you have to be a member to view the posts is that previously when the threads were open, the views expressed therein were often quoted elsewhere on the net, which caused severe embarrassment all round.

How do you stop embarrassing yourself? Censure the more extreme views maybe?

Nah, simply keep those views in house!! Problem sorted!!

Football for all, eh?

I see on of the threads on OWC is the road to Brazil.They won't be going to Brazil. So they are wasting their time discussing it.

woodoo

cesc77 wrote: »

Thanks for grouping together the oddnessicity of an entire nation due to a single post.

Icelandic people may say the same thing but they would be statistically more accurate.Fact!


Now p1ss off,we're all a bit odd here on this wee island.Its what makes us who we are:pac:

Minority,extreme views should not taint a nation

Northern Ireland isn't a Nation. Its a festering appendage glued to Britain by blood and puss.

cesc77

woodoo wrote: »

Northern Ireland isn't a Nation. Its a festering appendage glued to Britain by blood and puss.

No need for that.

Its my country and I wouldnt refer to any other country in such terms.You are looking for something which you will not receive from me.

By the way,I consider myself as Norn Irish,British,Agnostic and Irish.Figure that one out,and when youve levelled enough hatred towards me let me know...Royal Mail first class mind,because Irish mail is bollocks.

omgitsthelazor

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Our wee country (OWC) is infamous for the "views" expressed by many of its members. It is a cold house for anyone of a Nationalist bent.

The reason you have to be a member to view the posts is that previously when the threads were open, the views expressed therein were often quoted elsewhere on the net, which caused severe embarrassment all round.

How do you stop embarrassing yourself? Censure the more extreme views maybe?

Nah, simply keep those views in house!! Problem sorted!!

Football for all, eh?

I wasn't familiar with it before this. I see a dated thread on a gaa forum talking about it and apparent plans to destroy the aviva during the nations cup. :pac:

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=0f50e316dcfa253db3c57defec0a8406&topic=16961.0

The image I now have in my head is not one which I would normally admit, but to hell with it.

I'm thinking of seats being ripped up and thrown, terrified corporate guests from the glitterati of the Irish corporate fraud banking and construction industries being assisted in escaping down corridors away from the maelstrom, Gardai turning away and running in the face of never before encountered violence, the pitch being invaded and coated in industrial strength weedkiller leaving it drier and more parched than Bairbre de Brun's clitoris, the posts being discharged in the direction of the dressing room, Liam Brady struggling to escape over a fence, and all of a sudden flames starting to lick up the back wall of the stand.

That's the sort of thing which will get me banned and probably arrested, but f**k it, it's a more satisfying thought than boycotting a second rate friendly tournament.

Just some guys rambling but the sentiment, gosh.

Even more chilling is this wasn't deleted nor was the user banned, the post is still viewable today.

Fenian Army

You should try PULSE, that stuff is tame in comparison!

Use a proxy to sign up or else you are automatically banned for being a "fenian bastard"

true

woodoo wrote: »

Northern Ireland isn't a Nation.

Our little country down here has only the population of a small to mid size city....and is being bailed out by the EC/IMF/UK....after decades of massive EC/EEC subsidies ....so we can hardly say we are a great nation either, as we have made a b**ls of things since independence.

N. Ireland may not be a nation, but at least it is part of a nation. A nation with its own currency. A nation with a proud history in defending the free world against Nazism, Communism etc etc. A nation which is one of the G7.

Have to go to bed now. Tomorrow morning I'm taking a train journey here in the republic, and if I took the same train journey 100 years ago it would have been quicker. Ah, the progress of independence.

BUBBLE WRAP

This thread makes me sleepy, I need a fag, I have to brush my teeth and feed my pet cat called mittens. Good night AHs....

Fenian Army

true wrote: »

Our little country down here has only the population of a small to mid size city....and is being bailed out by the EC/IMF/UK....after decades of massive EC/EEC subsidies ....so we can hardly say we are a great nation either, as we have made a b**ls of things since independence.

N. Ireland may not be a nation, but at least it is part of a nation. A nation with its own currency. A nation with a proud history in defending the free world against Nazism, Communism etc etc. A nation which is one of the G7.

Have to go to bed now. Tomorrow morning I'm taking a train journey here in the republic, and if I took the same train journey 100 years ago it would have been quicker. Ah, the progress of independence.

hahahahaha

4/10

Sindri

true wrote: »

Our little country down here has only the population of a small to mid size city....and is being bailed out by the EC/IMF/UK....after decades of massive EC/EEC subsidies ....so we can hardly say we are a great nation either, as we have made a b**ls of things since independence.

N. Ireland may not be a nation, but at least it is part of a nation. A nation with its own currency. A nation with a proud history in defending the free world against Nazism, Communism etc etc. A nation which is one of the G7.

Have to go to bed now. Tomorrow morning I'm taking a train journey here in the republic, and if I took the same train journey 100 years ago it would have been quicker. Ah, the progress of independence.

Well why don't you just marry Britain THEN!

fryup

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Its like euro-taleban central. We are going to have a hell of a time bringing that lot into the 21st century after the english finally clear out.

the english?? its under british rule old boy

and the republic is a hip modern country ya?? :cool:

K-9

donegal_road wrote: »

go onto youtube and have a look through some of the comments left on videos related to the Troubles, or the paramilitaries. You will get an idea of what kind of attitudes are still alive and well today

That's a youtube thing in fairness, not a Northern Ireland thing.

golden lane

itreland like many countries, has travelled a long and troubled road.......but is there any end to that road..........

the eu was supposedly set up to bring peace to a historically troubled europe.....will ireland ever join in, in the spirit of that coming togetherness......

i am not so sure.......

Where To

The vast vast majority of people in Northern Ireland are good people, just like everywhere else.

If a few idiots on the internet were the yardstick on which to judge an entire country then I'm afraid we in the 'free state' wouldn't be in much of a position to judge.

golden lane

Where To wrote: »

The vast vast majority of people in Northern Ireland are good people, just like everywhere else.

If a few idiots on the internet were the yardstick on which to judge an entire country then I'm afraid we in the 'free state' wouldn't be in much of a position to judge.

yes, there are always the few who wish to spoi it for the rest....but i fear the situation is too deep rooted, and not enough are trying to change that.......