LOI: FAI Ford Cup (SECOND ROUND): Fixtures 25-27 May 2012

stovelid

All games are 7.45 PM KO unless otherwise stated.

Friday 25 May 2012

Shamrock Rovers vs Limerick FC (8PM) - Tallaght Stadium

Bohemian FC vs Drumkeen United - Dalymount Park

Dundalk vs St Patrick's CY - Oriel Park

Derry City vs Finn Harps - Brandywell Stadium

Bray Wanderers vs Shelbourne - Carlisle Grounds

Blarney United vs Malahide United

Sligo Rovers vs Monaghan United - Showgrounds

Cork City vs Athlone Town - Turner's Cross

UCD vs Phoenix FC - UCD Bowl

SD Galway vs Mervue United - Terryland Park

Drogheda United vs Mayfield United - Hunky Dorys Park

Sunday 27 May 2012

Crumlin United vs St. Patrick's Athletic (3PM) - Richmond Park

Kildrum Tigers vs Avondale United (1PM)

Douglas Hall vs Wexford Youths (2PM) - Moneygourney

Cherry Orchard vs Longford Town (2PM)- Frank Cooke Park

Everton vs Waterford United (3PM)

FAI Cup Information and Stats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAI_Cup

Top 10 FAI Cup Winners

Shamrock Rovers - 24
Dundalk - 9
Shelbourne - 7
Bohemians - 7
Drumcondra - 5
Sligo Rovers - 4
Cork Athletic - 4
Derry City - 4
Waterford United - 2
St. Patrick's Athletic - 2

General Information

Monday Night Soccer - Mondays at 7.00pm on RTÉ Two & RTÉ.ie (Worldwide)

Try out a game near you. Click fixture links for stadium details.

See club sites for info:

Shamrock Rovers FC
Shelbourne FC
ST Patrick's Athletic
Sligo Rovers
Bray Wanderers
Cork City
Monaghan United
Derry City
Drogheda United
Dundalk FC
UCD AFC
Bohemians

Wexford Youths
Limerick
Longford Town
Athlone Town
Finn Harps
SD Galway
Mervue United
Waterford United

St Patrick's CY FC
Blarney United
Phoneix FC
Crumlin United
Kildrum Tigers FC
Avondale United
Douglas Hall FC
Cherry Orchard
Everton
Drumkeen United
Mayfield United
Malahide United

stovelid

Cup weekend.

No league games until Friday 1st June and then a month's break during which some minor tournament - the name of which escapes me - is on.

Fixtures with no venue mean that I couldn't find where it is to be played or it hasn't been decided yet.

Zebra3

Also:
http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=2168

edolan

Sick of playing Monaghan in the cups.

stovelid

edolan wrote: »

Sick of playing Monaghan in the cups.

Woeful crowd up there last night even though it's an OK set-up. I don't know how they do it.

stovelid

OMG LOOK EVERTON ARE IN THE LEAGUE OF IRELAND CUP.

AgileMyth

stovelid wrote: »

Woeful crowd up there last night even though it's an OK set-up. I don't know how they do it.

Love it as an away trip. All grounds should have a bar inside.

stovelid

AgileMyth wrote: »

Love it as an away trip. All grounds should have a bar inside.

With pints that cost 3.70

Pighead

stovelid wrote: »

With pints that cost 3.70

Robbery! €3.50 in the Lilywhite Lounge. Also there is the added bonus of listening to the soothing dulcet tones of the locals.

Still trying to get my head around last nights result against Pats. Makes absolutely no sense. Football is a ridiculous game at times. Delighted for the team after last weeks fiasco against Mons.

Up against St Pats CY on Friday night. Don't know anything about them to be honest but hopefully they'll bring a few fans up and enjoy our cheap delicious pints of Harp.

petethebrick

edolan wrote: »

Sick of playing Monaghan in the cups.

We are more sick of playing ye tbf

dfx-

Limerick. Dodgy game..

CSF

Ah the excitement of seeing which of our best players will be dropped for an average First Division level player this week.

stovelid

dfx- wrote: »

Limerick. Dodgy game..

Rodderick last night. Scully on Friday.

Plus MON at Gortakeegan last night.

applehunter

Has to be Pats year.

6/1

Gavin "shels"

Missing Bray away due to work! Meant to be a cracking day too...:(

Any idea how much it's in to Richmond on Sunday? Might pop down.

HalloweenJack

Isn't the Wanderers game on the telly? 7.05pm, IIRC.

NIMAN

Pighead wrote: »

Robbery! €3.50 in the Lilywhite Lounge. Also there is the added bonus of listening to the soothing dulcet tones of the locals.

Still trying to get my head around last nights result against Pats. Makes absolutely no sense. Football is a ridiculous game at times. Delighted for the team after last weeks fiasco against Mons.

Up against St Pats CY on Friday night. Don't know anything about them to be honest but hopefully they'll bring a few fans up and enjoy our cheap delicious pints of Harp.

Ever do an away trip up here to Derry?

You'll not believe the price you can get some beer at.;)

Getting back to the football, another bye for us v Finn Harps!

malcolmplex

Last time de Town played in Frank Cooke Park,in the cup,we went on to win it.Great set up there,looking forward to it.

Mushy

Missing another match due to finishing work too late. Least its on the telly though, will be a whole new experience.

dreamers75

stovelid wrote: »

Crumlin United vs St. Patrick's Athletic (12PM) - Richmond Park

KO is 3pm

stovelid wrote: »

Woeful crowd up there last night even though it's an OK set-up. I don't know how they do it.

mon dogs

dan1895

Mushy wrote: »

Missing another match due to finishing work too late. Least its on the telly though, will be a whole new experience.

Was all looking forward to this until I was reminded yesterday that it had been moved to tv. A few other Shels fans I know who were thinking of going will now not be due to the kick off time being too early and a good chance of missing kick off because of work. Do the teams involved get anything off RTE for showing the game live?

dfx-

stovelid wrote: »

Plus MON at Gortakeegan last night.

Was he? Big Dec was telling everyone, but no-one else saw him..

Longford are able to challenge Limerick, Finn Harps nearly beat them..did Waterford? So they can be got at by weaker squads so you would think it's a good game to have, but it's all down to who wants it more..a replay would not be good.

Gavin "shels"

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Isn't the Wanderers game on the telly? 7.05pm, IIRC.

Tis, RTE Player shall be on my phone in work to give track.

dreamers75 wrote: »

KO is 3pm

Any idea how much it's in?

dan1895 wrote: »

Do the teams involved get anything off RTE for showing the game live?

Nothing afaik.

edolan

petethebrick wrote: »

We are more sick of playing ye tbf

I'd say ye are alright, must be fixed at this stage.

dan1895

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Isn't the Wanderers game on the telly? 7.05pm, IIRC.

Tis, RTE Player shall be on my phone in work to give track.

dreamers75 wrote: »

KO is 3pm

Any idea how much it's in?

dan1895 wrote: »

Do the teams involved get anything off RTE for showing the game live?

Nothing afaik.

Then whats the point as the kick off time means the crowd will probably be down a fair bit.

Mushy

dan1895 wrote: »

Then whats the point as the kick off time means the crowd will probably be down a fair bit.

So the Late Late show can be on at the usual time I'd say, knowing RTÉ. Scandalous if the clubs don't get anything from it. Shels would bring a decent crowd too, so its not good for Bray really.

stovelid

dfx- wrote: »

Was he? Big Dec was telling everyone, but no-one else saw him..

Yeah, he was sitting down where the Mons supporters were in the stand. He must have just dropped over to watch the game as I can't see why else he would be there.

Zebra3

Mushy wrote: »

So the Late Late show can be on at the usual time I'd say, knowing RTÉ. Scandalous if the clubs don't get anything from it. Shels would bring a decent crowd too, so its not good for Bray really.

Not good for either club with the gate being split. :mad:

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It's looking increasingly likely that I'll make this one.

dreamers75

Gavin shels wrote: »

Any idea how much it's in?

€15 Cup game so gate is split, they opted for sunday as they have a game on thursday? or a player has a wedding not sure.

Pighead

Crisis deepening in Oriel Park. Players were brought into a meeting today and told they wouldn't be getting paid this week. Worrying times for Dundalk fans.

CSF

Pighead wrote: »

Crisis deepening in Oriel Park. Players were brought into a meeting today and told they wouldn't be getting paid this week. Worrying times for Dundalk fans.

Where do the financial problems stem from? Low expenditure, reasonable income surely?

stovelid

Pighead wrote: »

Crisis deepening in Oriel Park. Players were brought into a meeting today and told they wouldn't be getting paid this week. Worrying times for Dundalk fans.

Is it because of that insurance payout youse are waiting on?

Hope youse pull through it. Nobody wants to see another club in trouble.

dreamers75

CSF wrote: »

Where do the financial problems stem from? Low expenditure, reasonable income surely?

Fans boycotting matches apparently, 23 of them witnessed their victory the other night. Altho we were unsure of one lad with a blue jacket on it.

Normally they bring a fair few hundred down and its classed as a grade A game.

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

Fans boycotting matches apparently, 23 of them witnessed their victory the other night. Altho we were unsure of one lad with a blue jacket on it.

Normally they bring a fair few hundred down and its classed as a grade A game.

What a joke.

stovelid

dreamers75 wrote: »

Fans boycotting matches apparently, 23 of them witnessed their victory the other night. Altho we were unsure of one lad with a blue jacket on it.

Normally they bring a fair few hundred down and its classed as a grade A game.

I'd say the team the fist year or two they came up cost a bit as well. A few of the usual suspects in there.

Pighead

CSF wrote: »

Where do the financial problems stem from? Low expenditure, reasonable income surely?

Sponsorship down, season ticket sales down, match attendances down. The fact the few times we've played well this season have all been away hasn't helped. We've been dismal at home and the crowds have stopped coming.

stovelid wrote: »

Is it because of that insurance payout youse are waiting on?

Yeah. They were relying on that to pay wages for the next few months but the insurance company don't want to pay out. Not entirely sure why but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact the astro turf that went on fire was being stored outside the ground.

The Dundalk Trust (Group of hardcore Dundalk fans) have been waiting for a chance to take over the club for a while now and it's looking as though they may get that chance sooner rather than later.

stovelid

Pighead wrote: »

The Dundalk Trust (Group of hardcore Dundalk fans) have been waiting for a chance to take over the club for a while now and it's looking as though they may get that chance sooner rather than later.

Could be way forward for yis...

CiaranC

Pighead wrote: »

The Dundalk Trust (Group of hardcore Dundalk fans) have been waiting for a chance to take over the club for a while now and it's looking as though they may get that chance sooner rather than later.

Good. Have they spoken to Supporters Direct or anyone?

Pighead

CiaranC wrote: »

Good. Have they spoken to Supporters Direct or anyone?

I don't know to be honest. I do know that they do a hell of a lot of god work for the club (website and programmes etc) and have raised over a hundred grand since 2010 which has gone towards our yearly budget.

They had representation on the board up until April but stepped down as it wasn't working out. They spoke with the owner a few months back with the intention of a takeover but those talks ultimately failed however it looks like they may be going in again. Here's a tweet from the trust from this evening.



Dundalk FC Trust ‏@DundalkFCTrust
#DundalkFC Sounds like there's no money to pay the players. How hard is prudent budgeting? Is this the end of the road. No - an opportunity?

CiaranC

Pighead wrote: »

I don't know to be honest. I do know that they do a hell of a lot of god work for the club (website and programmes etc) and have raised over a hundred grand since 2010 which has gone towards our yearly budget.

They had representation on the board up until April but stepped down as it wasn't working out. They spoke with the owner a few months back with the intention of a takeover but those talks ultimately failed however it looks like they may be going in again. Here's a tweet from the trust from this evening.



Dundalk FC Trust ‏@DundalkFCTrust
#DundalkFC Sounds like there's no money to pay the players. How hard is prudent budgeting? Is this the end of the road. No - an opportunity?

If you know them and they havent already, tell them to put in a call to Jonathon Roche at Rovers for a chat.

doncarlos

CiaranC wrote: »

Good. Have they spoken to Supporters Direct or anyone?

The trust have been in contact with supporters direct and FORAS as far as I know and have had plenty of meetings.

I'm still in shock as up to this season we seemed like we were being run properly. I attended a meeting with Gerry Mathews and Paul Johnston about a month ago and was told there was no money to pay the players the following week. Sponsorship has dropped to critical levels. For example a couple of years ago when we were playing in Europe we had every player in the squad and coaches sponsored twice. Now we have 5 or 6 sponsored. All games, match balls were sponsored. Now we are relying on fan groups to sponsor these.

The straw that broke the camel's back was giving McCaffrey €6100 a week to sign rubbish players mixed with decent youths with the hope of developing and building a team. Who wants to go and watch their team being beaten at home against weak Bohs, Bray and Monaghan teams? Quite often without even putting up a fight. We have now hit our lowest crowds in about 10 years. A lot of it is down to the manager but more is down to whoever sanctioned his appointment and budget.

If we can't pay players we should be hit with a point deduction. It's not fair on teams like UCD that play by the rules if we were to finish in front of them.

The only silver lining is we are relatively debt free.

doncarlos

stovelid wrote: »

Could be way forward for yis...

Unfortunately I don't think it is. I don't think a fans group will work in Dundalk without an investor(s) coming on board as a partner. There isn't enough fans in Dundalk willing to put their hands in their pockets.

Pinturicchio

6100 a week?! That seems insane considering the squad you have.

Pighead

doncarlos wrote: »

The straw that broke the camel's back was giving McCaffrey €6100 a week to sign rubbish players mixed with decent youths with the hope of developing and building a team.

Hard to know who is telling the truth but McCaffrey claims that figure is wrong and his actual weekly budget is in the region of €4000. He also claimed that he's getting less than a quarter of what Ian Foster was getting a week (around €1000 a week)

doncarlos

Pinturicchio wrote: »

6100 a week?! That seems insane considering the squad you have.

It is insane. Board took a gamble on McCaffrey's ability and he has wasted the budget on players that are not good enough.

Pighead wrote: »

Hard to know who is telling the truth but McCaffrey claims that figure is wrong and his actual weekly budget is in the region of €4000. He also claimed that he's getting less than a quarter of what Ian Foster was getting a week (around €1000 a week)

He has said his budget is 6k, but you are right about him saying he was on a quarter of what Foster was on but that includes perks like car and house that Foster got.

Pighead

doncarlos wrote: »

He has said his budget is 6k.

Ah right. Thought he said the budget was halved from last season which would have left it around the 4K mark.

evad_lhorg

Des wrote: »

It's looking increasingly likely that I'll make this one.

thats not a good thing at the moment Des

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why?

Pighead

Des wrote: »

why?

I'm guessing he's implying Shels aren't doing too well of late having lost four of their last six games.

_blank_

Pighead wrote: »

I'm guessing he's implying Shels aren't doing too well of late having lost four of their last six games.

Oh right.

Wouldn't really bother me too much, a decent cup run is something I hope we have, but I want to finish clear of relegation in the league, and no-where near the Euro places thanks very much.

Also, trips to Bray are always decent, AND I can visit my new wife's parents while I'm at it.